080_MLeapModelExportDemo(Scala)
Import Notebook

SDS-2.x, Scalable Data Engineering Science

Adapted from databricks engineering blog.

Model Export with MLeap

MLeap is a common serialization format and execution engine for machine learning pipelines. It supports Apache Spark, Scikit-learn, and TensorFlow for training pipelines and exporting them to an MLeap Bundle. Serialized pipelines (bundles) can be deserialized back into Apache Spark, Scikit-learn, TensorFlow graphs, or an MLeap pipeline. This notebook only demonstrates how to use MLeap to do the model export with MLlib. For an overview of the package and more examples, check out the MLeap documentation.

import ml.combust.bundle.BundleFile
import ml.combust.mleap.spark.SparkSupport._
import org.apache.spark.ml.bundle.SparkBundleContext
import resource._
import ml.combust.bundle.BundleFile import ml.combust.mleap.spark.SparkSupport._ import org.apache.spark.ml.bundle.SparkBundleContext import resource._

Cluster Setup

  1. Create a library with the Source Maven Coordinate and the fully-qualified Maven artifact coordinate: ml.combust.mleap:mleap-spark_2.11:0.13.0.
  2. Attach the library to a cluster.

Note:

  • This version of MLeap works with Spark 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4
  • It is cross-compiled only for Scala 2.11.

In this Notebook

This notebook demonstrates how to use MLeap to export a DecisionTreeClassifier from MLlib and how to load the saved PipelineModel to make predictions.

The basic workflow is as follows:

  • Model export
    • Fit a PipelineModel using MLlib.
    • Use MLeap to serialize the PipelineModel to zip File or to directory.
  • Move the PipelineModel files to your deployment project or data store.
  • In your project
    • Use MLeap to deserialize the saved PipelineModel
    • Make predictions.

Training the Model by MLlib

import org.apache.spark.ml.{Pipeline, PipelineModel}
import org.apache.spark.ml.classification.DecisionTreeClassifier
import org.apache.spark.ml.evaluation._
import org.apache.spark.ml.feature._
import org.apache.spark.ml.tuning._
import org.apache.spark.ml.{Pipeline, PipelineModel} import org.apache.spark.ml.classification.DecisionTreeClassifier import org.apache.spark.ml.evaluation._ import org.apache.spark.ml.feature._ import org.apache.spark.ml.tuning._ 
val df = spark.read.parquet("/databricks-datasets/news20.binary/data-001/training")
  .select("text", "topic")
df.cache()
display(df)
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From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari) Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Lines: 16 Distribution: inet NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tut.fi In <1993Apr16.105809.22218@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes: >I would also like an explanation of this. If anyone can explain >why the SB Pro and LPT 1 can share an IRQ, please do so. I think it's simply because DOS doesn't use the IRQ for anything. OS/2 does, so with that you can't share the IRQ. Anssi -- Anssi Saari s106275@ee.tut.fi Tampere University of Technology Finland, Europe comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: NC vs Hunt (Marine Gay Bashing in Wilmington NC) verdict Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics Lines: 57 In article <1qp5juINNgu5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes: > In article <1993Apr14.135948.3024@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>, > tfarrell@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thomas Farrell) said: > >> A good case? A F**KING GOOD CASE? The defense lawyer asked the victim >> questions like "what kind of sexual perversions do you participate >> in?" and you think he made a good case????? > > Speaking as someone who's only about six weeks and a $6,900 tuition bill > away from becoming an unemployed slob with a law degree, I'd really like > to see a transcript of this trial. I'd especially like to know what > happened immediately after the defense attorney asked that question > (assuming that the reports that he did so are accurate... I'm not > accusing Tom Farrell of...talk.politics.misc
From: ccox@math.nwu.edu (Christopher L. Cox) Subject: Re: Yogi-isms Article-I.D.: news.1993Apr6.213008.1009 Organization: Dept of Math, Northwestern Univ Lines: 13 Nntp-Posting-Host: poincare.math.nwu.edu > > Here's one I remember: (sort of) > Yogi's asleep in a hotel room late at night and gets a call from someone. > After he answers the phone the person at the other end asks if he woke Yogi > up. Yogi answered, "No, the phone did." > > Kevin One of my favorites came back in the seventies when two streakers interupted a game Yogi was at, dashing across the field unclad. Later someone who wasn't present asked Yogi if they were men or women. He replied, "I couldn't tell, they had bags over their heads." rec.sport.baseball
From: csk@wdl50.wdl.loral.com (Chuck Kuczaj) Subject: Re: MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #18 Organization: Loral Western Development Labs Lines: 26 mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) writes: >Don't you just hate when the speedo and tach on your >bike start to cloud over from all that nasty sunshine? >The detailing tip of the week is to use rubbing compound. >Moisten a rag, apply some rubbing compound and work into the >translucent, previously transparent, material. After a few >minutes of working on the plastic face, the dial, or plastic >face will be clear once more. Will not work for glass. >-- >BTW. I am not responsible for damages incurred when using > the above method. Most models can use the treatment > safely. >============================================================================= >= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733= >= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre = >= (-> 1994 GTS10...rec.motorcycles
From: belville@athena.mit.edu (Sharon Belville) Subject: Re: God-shaped hole (was Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...") Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 13 In article <Apr.14.03.07.38.1993.5420@athos.rutgers.edu>, johnsd2@rpi.edu (Dan Johnson) writes: |> >Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must |> >do something to ease the pain. |> |> I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know |> who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business? I've seen this verse used to back up this idea: "...He has also set eternity in the hearts of men..." (Ecclesiastes 3:11) -- Sharon Belville soc.religion.christian
From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) Subject: Griffin / Office of Exploration: RIP Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 19 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu Any comments on the absorbtion of the Office of Exploration into the Office of Space Sciences and the reassignment of Griffin to the "Chief Engineer" position? Is this just a meaningless administrative shuffle, or does this bode ill for SEI? In my opinion, this seems like a Bad Thing, at least on the surface. Griffin seemed to be someone who was actually interested in getting things done, and who was willing to look an innovative approaches to getting things done faster, better, and cheaper. It's unclear to me whether he will be able to do this at his new position. Does anyone know what his new duties will be? -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Brian Yamauchi Case Western Reserve University yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu Departmen...sci.space
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) Subject: My predictions Nntp-Posting-Host: gibson.cc.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Lines: 79 Smythe Division --------------- Vancouver vs. Winnipeg - Jets in 7 The Jets have played the Canucks tough the last three games. Everyone is healthy for the Jets. I'm biased. :) Calgary vs. Los Angeles - Flames in 6 From what I have seen, the Kings have looked flat lately. I just can't see them getting by the Flames. Final- Jets in 6. The Jets haven't lost to the Flames in '93. They will, but it will be a close series that will come down to how well Roberts has recovered. I don't think he'll be 100%, and while it will help, it won't be enough. Norris Division --------------- Chicago vs. St. Louis/Minnesota Chicago in 6 against the Blues, 7 against the Stars. Detroit vs. Toronto - Wings in 6. The Wings should be able to shutdown Gilmour and Andreychuk. Chelvadae is more experienced than ...rec.sport.hockey
From: artmel@well.sf.ca.us (Arthur Melnick) Subject: Some questions regarding Big Brother (Clipper) Summary: Some thoughts and questions regarding clipper Keywords: clipper Nntp-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 23 In previous postings by Hellman, Bellovin, etal it was reported the Big Brother (Clipper) chip will encrypt plaintext in 64 bit blocks as is done with DES. The users key K which can be derived from RSA, Diffy-Hellman, etc. is used to encrypt plaintext M and is then used to form a "three part message". This three part message consists of E[M; K], K encrypted with some other key, and the chip serial number. This three part message is then encrypted by still another key. My question is: What is a message? For example, say we are dealing with an encrypted digitized voice application. The speech waveform is sampled and digitized and then some number of samples are grouped into a 64 bit block. T...sci.crypt
From: thomsonal@cpva.saic.com Subject: Cosmos 2238: an EORSAT Article-I.D.: cpva.15337.2bc16ada Organization: Science Applications Int'l Corp./San Diego Lines: 48 >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 15:40:47 GMT >I need as much information about Cosmos 2238 and its rocket fragment (1993- >018B) as possible. Both its purpose, launch date, location, in short, >EVERYTHING! Can you help? >-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ocean Reconnaissance Launch Surprises West Space News, April 5-11, 1993, p.2 [Excerpts] Russia launched its first ocean reconnaissance satellite in 26 months March 30, confounding Western analysts who had proclaimed the program dead. The Itar-TASS news agency announced the launch of Cosmos 2238 from Plesetsk Cosmodrome, but provided little description of the payload's mission. However, based on the satellite's trajectory, Western observers ...sci.space
From: Peter.vanderveen@visser.el.wau.nl (Peter van der Veen) Subject: To yhe one who wants fonts in POV/POLYRAY/VIVID Lines: 28 Organization: Wageningen Agricultural University X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0 To everyone who wants fonts in Vivid/POV/Polyray. The Borland BGI font converter is VVFONT18.ZIP. This program can be found on FTP.INFORMATIK.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE directory pub/dkbtrace/utils. Also WUARCHIVE has mirrored this site (directory graphics/graphics/mirrors/ ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/pub/dkbtrace/utils. There are more nice utilities present in this directory. A new version of Polyray 1.6 (for those asked for it) can be found on the same sites but in the directory INCOMING instead of UTILS (PLY16386). Also in this directory POVSHELL and PV3DV060 could be found. Have a nive raytrace time. Peter /*---------*\*/*-------------------------------------------*\ *| ____/| *|* PETER.VANDERVEEN@VISSER.EL.WAU.NL |* *| \ o.O| *|* Department of Genetics ...comp.graphics
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) Subject: Re: Clinton wants National ID card, aka USSR-style "Internal Passport" Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 21 In article <C5JIF8.I4n@boi.hp.com> slack@boi.hp.com (David Slack) writes: >The idea of the card is bull in and of its self, but I'm curious to know, do >they plan on making it a requirement to *always* have it on you, or is it >only going to be required to be *presented* when trying to ge medical aid? This, at least, has already been determined: The Blue Cross medical coverage for all federal employees is a good model for a future national system. To get emergency medical care, anyone so insured must always carry their Blue Cross card. Before entering a hospital, you must notify Blue Cross, or they will refuse to pay your bills. In an emergency, where you must be treated before notifying them, you must inform them within 24 hours or (if you are unable to do so for m...talk.politics.guns
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: After all, Armenians exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people there. Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 297 In article <C5y56o.A62@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hovig@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hovig Heghinian) writes: >article. I have no partisan interests --- I would just like to know >what conversations between TerPetrosyan and Demirel sound like. =) Very simple. "X-Soviet Armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide against 2.5 million Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations to the Turks and Kurds." After all, your criminal grandparents exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914 and 1920. <C5yyBt.5zo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hovig@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hovig Heghinian) >To which I say: >Hear, hear. Motion seconded. You must be a new 'Arromdian'. You are counting on ASALA/SDPA/ARF crooks and criminals to prove something for you? No wonder you are in such a mess. That criminal idiot a...talk.politics.mideast
From: tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias) Subject: Re: Comments on a 1984 Honda Interceptor 1000? Nntp-Posting-Host: hydra.convex.com Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of CONVEX. Lines: 27 In article <19APR93.15421177@skyfox> howp@skyfox writes: >Hi. > I am considering the purchase of a 1984 Honda 1000cc Interceptor for >$2095 CDN (about $1676 US). I don't know the mileage on this bike, but from >the picture in the 'RV Trader' magazine, it looks to be in good shape. >Can anybody enlighten me as to whether this is a good purchase? Is it a >good bike? This will be my first bike. (I realize that, for a beginner, >1000cc is considered too be a bit too much bike. I have heard from friends >that were once beginners that if they had to start all over again that they >would have started...rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Exploding TV! From: xhan@uceng.uc.edu (Xiaoping Han) Distribution: usa Organization: University of Cincinnati Lines: 12 In article <1qk4hj$qos@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> prasad@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Prasad Ramakrishna) writes: >... Why would the picture tube explode or even smoke? It's not the picture tube. More likely the flyback. Emerson? can't admire. Han >Prasad >prasadr@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu > sci.electronics
From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) Subject: Re: div. and conf. names Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON Distribution: na Lines: 50 In <1993Apr19.191126.27651@newshub.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes: >However, that aside, the real question is whether you like the idea of >changing the names based on the reasons given for it (making it easier for >the 'casual fan'), or whether you like the idea of unique divisional names >based on individuals who do deserve the honour. IMO, the latter is a nice >and unique touch that differs from other sports. In addition, I do not >think that changing divisional names will have an effect on the number of >people that are interested in hockey, so it's a pointless exercise anyway. There are several problems with the way the game is being presented to the fans. I feel that geographical names would enhance regional loyalties more than names honouring personages. And of...rec.sport.hockey
From: ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Ravi Puvvala) Subject: $13,500 Mazda 626 DX (with Air, AM/FM) Good Deal? Nntp-Posting-Host: elvis.dev.cdx.mot.com Reply-To: ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Ravi Puvvala) Organization: Motorola Codex Lines: 12 Hi Netters I want to know if 13500 (w/o tax) is a good deal for 1993 Mazda 626 DX How is the performance review so far on Mazda 626. Is it a good buy? Please reply to me as I don't read this group often. Thanks In advance Ravi -- Ravi Kiran Puvvala | "The purpose of education is not merely, ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com | the assimilation of facts but blow all Motorola Codex, Boston MA | the money" - Ravi Puvvala ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.autos
From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard) Subject: Re: quality control in medicine Summary: Kaiser has been doing it for a while Article-I.D.: pegasus.1993Apr22.221508.10196 Organization: Pegasus, Honolulu Lines: 14 In article <93108.003258U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> <U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: >Does anybody know of any information regarding the implementaion of total > quality management, quality control, quality assurance in the delivery of > health care service. I would appreciate any information. If there is enough >interest, I will post the responses. > Thank You > Abhin Singla MS BioE, MBA, MD > President AC Medcomp Inc Dr Singla, you might contact Kaiser Health Plan either in the area closest to you or at the central office in Oakland CA. We have been doing QA, QoS, concurrent UR, and TQM for some time now in the Hawaii Region, and I suspect it is nationwide in the system. Len Howard MD sci.med
From: jmeritt@mental.MITRE.ORG (Jim Meritt - System Admin) Subject: Keep Firm the foundations! Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. talk.religion.misc
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante) Subject: Re: RIM NEEDED Keywords: Either do it, or keep you opinions to yourself. Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: north1.acpub.duke.edu In article <1993Apr14.210922.20916@news.columbia.edu> twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang) writes: >In article <13177@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante)writes: >>In article <1993Apr13.122643.3180@walter.bellcore.com> pgoudas@gomer.bellcore.com (Paul Goudas) writes: >>> Also, is there a law or something that requires NYC to keep it's >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>street empty of potholes greater than a certain depth? I (rather my bike) >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA WHAHwuhuhahuah!!!! >> >>That's a good one!! Really, stop! I can't breathe!! > > Bite your tongue. Those of us who ACTUALLY RIDE in NYC on a >daily basis could not live without those Potholes. It'll ruin...rec.motorcycles
From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.) Subject: Re: Anti-Viral Herbs Article-I.D.: news.C51o24.8A4 Distribution: na Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 38 kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) writes: >Unfortunately it was rather poorly researched, and would not be available >today if it were just invented. Keep in mind however that those were >the days when a bottle of Coca Cola really did contain coca extract and >a certain amount of active cocaine. Times have changed, and our attitudes >need to change with them. Well, yes. That was a part of my point. Aspirin has its problems, but in some situations it is useful. Ditto stuff like licorice root. Taking anything as a drug for theraputic purposes implicitly carries the idea of taking a dose where the benefits are not exceeded by any unwanted, additional effects. Taking any drug when the potential ill-effects are not known is a risk assumed by the parties involved, and it may be that in a given situation ...sci.med
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing Organization: Trivializers R Us Lines: 16 In <1pqu12$pmu@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au> johnh@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (John Haddy) writes: >In article <C513wI.G5A@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes: >|> Instead, use a quartz crystal and divide its frequency by 2 40 times >|> or something like that. >... Wouldn't a crystal be affected by cold? My gut feeling is that, as a >mechanically resonating device, extreme cold is likely to affect the >compliance (?terminology?) of the quartz, and hence its resonant frequency. Yes, but in a fairly reproducible way. -40 is only a smidgen of the distance to absolute zero. And in any case you're going to have to borrow freezer space from a bio lab or someone to test/calibrate this darling anyway. Btw, you're probably going to want those big capacitors you found to fire the solenoid -- High current drain on frozen batteries can be an ugly thing. p...sci.electronics
From: wcd82671@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (daniel warren c) Subject: Splitfire Plugs... Kinda Offical... Summary: Supposed "Higher power output". Distribution: rec.motorcycles Keywords: Using Splitfire plugs for performance. Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 54 Yo, Whaz up!!! Earlier, I was reading on the net about using Splitfire plugs. One guy was thinking about it and almost everybody shot him to hell. Well, I saw one think that someone said about "Show me a team that used Split- fires...." Well, here's some additional insight and some theories about splitfire plugs and how they boost us as oppossed to cages. Splitfires were originally made to burn fuel more efficiently and increased power for the 4x4 cages. Well, for these guys, splitfires increased performance by increasing TORQUE. They weren't focusing on horsepower numbers. Now how does this related to us high performance pilots? Well, that depends. Do you pilot a high performance 2- or 4-cylinder machine?...rec.motorcycles
From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) Subject: Re: Immotile Cilia Syndrome Article-I.D.: pitt.19423 Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 31 In article <1993Mar26.213522.26224@ncsu.edu> andrea@unity.ncsu.edu (Andrea M Free-Kwiatkowski) writes: >I would like to know if there is any new information out there about the >subject or any new studies being conducted. I am confident in my >pediatrician and her communication with the people in Chapel Hill, but >since this is a life-long disorder and genetically transferred I would >like keep current. I do realize that since this is a relatively new >disorder (first documented in 1974 in a fertility clinic in Scandanavia) >and is therefore "controversial". I do not know a lot about this, except from seeing one patient with "Kartagener's syndrome", which is a form of immotile cilia syndrome in which there is situs inversus, bronchiectasis, and chronic infections. "Situs inversus" means t...sci.med
From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes) Subject: Re: Serbian genocide Work of God? Lines: 89 note: i am not the original poster, i am just answering because i think this is important. In article <May.5.02.50.17.1993.28624@athos.rutgers.edu> db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes: >revdak@netcom.com writes: [evil result of human sinfulness, rather than the will of God] >In a certain sense yes. But in the sense that God allows evil to >happen, when obviously (He being God) He could have not had it happen, >does in a certain sense mean that He wills it to happen. God does not >condone evil, but instead uses it for good, as you say, however, what >God desires, must be seperated from what actually happens. For example, >"God desires that all should be saved" (1 Timothy 2.4), however, it is >quite obvious that nowhere near all are saved. Was God's will thwarted? > No, because His will cannot be escaped, for even when it appears that >it is your will doing something, i...soc.religion.christian
From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) Subject: Re: Boom! Dog attack! Nntp-Posting-Host: bmerh824 Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design Lines: 28 In article <Clarke.5.734991574@bdrc.bd.com>, Clarke@bdrc.bd.com (Richard Clarke) writes: |> final trajectory. Too bad it didn't notice the car approaching at 50+mph .... |> from the other direction. |> |> I got a closeup view of the our poor canine friend's noggin careening off |> the front bumper, smacking the asphalt, and getting runover by the front |> tire. It managed a pretty good yelp, just before impact. (peripheral |> imminent doom?) I guess the driver didn't see me or they probably would have |> swerved into my lane. The squeegeed pup actually got up and headed back |> home, but I haven't seen it since. |> Same thing to me. Everyday the same dog would chase my bicycle. The owners thought it was cute. Even after I got the moto, the stupid dog would do the same thing. Then one day...rec.motorcycles
From: brian@meaddata.com (Brian Curran) Subject: Re: ESPN/TBS GAMES? Article-I.D.: meaddata.1pptv1$mgb Distribution: world Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: taurus.meaddata.com In article <05APR93.13661642.0023@lafibm.lafayette.edu>, VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes: |> Does anyone know where I can get a list of nationally televised |> games, such as ESPN and TBS? I live on the East coast and I'd |> like to catch as many Giants games as I possibly can! This list is published every week in Baseball Weekly. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Curran Mead Data Central brian@meaddata.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "That was not swimming. That was bathing." - A German reporter, after watching 1972 Olympic superstar swimmer Mark Spitz get badly beaten during a 1991 comeback race rec.sport.baseball
From: "William K. Willis" <ww1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Don Cherry - help me out, here Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu As a person who has rarely even SEEN Don Cherry and doesn't know anything about him, I don't know whether it is just this area (Pittsburgh) of the USA that is "deprived" of his broadcasts or whether he's a Canadian thing altogether. Seriously, what is he all about? I know he was a coach at one time, and from the volume of posts about him, SOMEONE surely is getting a steady diet of him somehow, but my question is, what is the deal with him? Secondly, are the comments of his that I read about on the net merely flame bait, or do people actually take him seriously? I gotta tell you, from what I see, he really sounds like an ass. Let me know - maybe I'm missing something. rec.sport.hockey
From: rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us (Roger C. Pao) Subject: Re: 16Mb ISA limit Keywords: monitor, VGA, question Organization: MicroTech Software Lines: 29 marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley) writes: >In the latest PC Magazine (Pentium isssue), there >is an editorial on the >advantages of a PC using EISE/VESA-LB rather >than just plain ISA/VESA-LB. Supposedly users >will eventually want more than 16Mb of RAM. >However since the ISA bus has only 24 bits, >then anything on the bus can access only 16Mb >even if I have 32Mb on the motherboard. >So far I agree with the arguments. >Then the writer claims that glitches can >occur in systems with over 16Mb because >of that limit. That part I don't understand >because the RAM is right on the motherboard. >So the cpu should have no problems talking >with the RAM. Can anybody explain this ? The problem is with ISA bus-masters which can only address the first 16MBs of system memory. Bus-masters do not use the CPU nor the system DMA to do the actua...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: betts@netcom.com (Jonathan Betts) Subject: Ghost on Apple 12" Color -> user=insane!! Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 16 Dear Netters, My sister has an Apple 12" Color Display hooked up to an LC. Problem: There is an annoying, horizontal, ghost-like stripe that precesses vertically about once per second. It is about 1 cm high. She is in grave danger of going insane because of it. Any ideas of what it might be and how I might cure it for her? -Joe Betts betts@netcom.com PS: if I pick up the display (I thought it might be RFI from the LC) it seems to get worse! comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) Subject: Re: HBP? BB? BIG-CAT? Distribution: na Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego Lines: 15 Nntp-Posting-Host: mbongo.ucsd.edu In article <C5r7tv.36s@odin.corp.sgi.com>, kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes: I don't |> blame players like Galarraga, Dawson and McGee when they swing at |> a strike and put the ball in play. Well, no problem! But I get pretty annoyed when they swing at non-strikes and make outs. Especially ball four on the 3-2 counts... Dave -- Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029 rec.sport.baseball
From: tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan) Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris) Reply-To: tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan) Organization: Iowa State University Lines: 36 In article <1993Apr20.143453.3127@news.uiowa.edu>, mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon) writes: > From article <1qvgu5INN2np@lynx.unm.edu>, by osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski): > > > Well, it did not take long to see how consequent some Greeks are in > > requesting that Thessaloniki are not called Solun by Bulgarian netters. > > So, Napoleon, why do you write about Konstantinople and not Istanbul? > > > > Marek Osinski > > Thessaloniki is called Thessaloniki by its inhabitants for the last 2300 years. > The city was never called Solun by its inhabitants. > Instabul was called Konstantinoupolis from 320 AD until about the 1920s. > That's about 1600 years. There many people alive today who were born in a city > called Konstantinoupolis. How many people do you know that were born in...talk.politics.mideast
From: vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Lines: 56 In article <Apr.10.05.32.29.1993.14388@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes: >vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes: > >No, IMO, Mr. Stowell missed the point. > >> "We affirm the absolutes of Scripture, not because we are arrogant >> moralists, but because we believe in God who is truth, who has revealed His >> truth in His Word, and therefore we hold as precious the strategic importance >> of those absolutes." > >Mr. Stowell seems to have jumped rather strangely from truth to absolutes. >I don't see how that necessarily follows. > >Are all truths also absolutes? >Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)? > >If the answer to either of these questions is no, then perhaps you can >explain to me how you determine which parts of Scripture are tr...soc.religion.christian
From: mcadams@trane.rtp.dg.com (Ed McAdams) Subject: Piano, free to charity Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 15 I have one of those HEAVY antique upright pianos I would like to contribute to any charity with muscle enough to get it out of my house. If I get no response from a charity I will sell to for $100, you haul. It is in good shape, needs tuning. I'm in south Durham county. Ed McAdams Data General Corporation mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6369 Ed McAdams Data General Corporation mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6369 misc.forsale
From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke) Subject: Re: pushing the envelope Organization: University of Central Florida Distribution: na Lines: 18 > In <1993Apr3.233154.7045@Princeton.EDU> lije@cognito.Princeton.EDU (Elijah Millgram) writes: > > > A friend of mine and I were wondering where the expression "pushing > the envelope" comes from. Anyone out there know? > Everbody has been defining envelope. Why was the world "envelope" chosen, rather than say "shell", or "boundary". In analogy with the envelopes of airships perhaps? Actually, "shell" might be good. Push the shell too hard and it (the aircraft?) breaks. -- Thomas Clarke Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL 12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826 (407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu sci.space
From: afielden@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (andrew.j.fielden) Subject: X interactive performance Keywords: benchmark Organization: AT&T Lines: 21 We recently got an NCD X-terminal to evaluate. This is running XRemote over a serial line. I wanted to get some measurement of response time, so I wrote a small Xlib program which simply creates a window, maps it and sends the first Expose event to itself. The program times the delay from sending the event, to receiving it. I thought this was the simplest way to test client/X-server round-trip delays. It's a similar concept to the ping(8C) program. Is this a valid test to perform ? I've also tried the xbench program, available from ftp.uu.net, which bombards the server with graphics operations, but I just wanted to get a quantative measure of what is "acceptable" interactive response time. Has anyone got any ideas on this subject ? Thanks. Andrew. (afielden@mlsma.att.com) -- +----------------------------------------+------------------------...comp.windows.x
From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down) Subject: Re: Barasso - the cheap shot master? Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto Lines: 27 Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >After watching the Pengiuns all year (and as many other teams as >possible), I've really noticed an increase in Tom Barasso's cheap shots >this year (and not noticed a corrsponding increase with other >goaltenders). Have a look at Ed Belfour. >He also KICKED John McLean. Of >course he wasn't called for that. Belfour kicked Gerrard Gallant when the Wings played the 'Hawks a couple of weeks ago. No penalty. No review. No suspension. This was after he attacked Bob Probert in the previous period. He was penalized for that. >There's no doubt in >my mind that Barasso is the dirtiest golatender since Hextall. >He's also very good. Likewise Belfour. Too bad he goes down so much! :-) >Ralph Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu) rec.sport.hockey
From: dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) Subject: Gibbons Outlines SSF Redesign Guidance News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio Lines: 76 NASA Headquarters distributed the following press release today (4/6). I've typed it in verbatim, for you folks to chew over. Many of the topics recently discussed on sci.space are covered in this. Gibbons Outlines Space Station Redesign Guidance Dr. John H. Gibbons, Director, Office of Science and Technology Policy, outlined to the members-designate of the Advisory Committee on the Redesign of the Space Station on April 3, three budget options as guidance to the committee in their deliberations on the redesign of the space station. A low option of $5 billion, a mid-range option of $7 billion and a high option of $9 billion will be considered by the committee. Each option would cover the total expenditures for space station from fiscal...sci.space
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest) Subject: Re: Would "clipper" make a good cover for other encryption method? Nntp-Posting-Host: rac2.wam.umd.edu Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Lines: 11 In article <1993Apr20.032623.3046@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes: >Clipper might be a good way to cover the use of another layer of >encryption. True, but will traditional encryptions schemes, when further encrypted by Clipper, be _more_ vulnerable to attacks such as partially known plaintext? -Thomas sci.crypt
From: mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES In-Reply-To: henrik@quayle.kpc.com's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 16:45:17 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: vein.cs.rochester.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Rochester <1993Apr17.185118.10792@ee.rochester.edu> <1993Apr19.155856.8260@kpc.com> <1993Apr20.000413.25123@ee.rochester.edu> <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> In article <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: [stuff deleted] > Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to drag ARMENIA into the > KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. Gimme a break. CAPITAL letters, or NOT, the above is pure nonsense. It seems to me that short sighted Armenians are escalating the hostilities while hoping that Turkey will stay out. Stop and think for a moment, will you? Armenia doesn't need anyone to drag her into the conflict, it is a part of it. >The KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived ...talk.politics.mideast
From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) Subject: Re: Swimming pool defense Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 17 In article <dasmith.734719640@husc.harvard.edu> dasmith@husc8.harvard.edu (David Smith) writes: >Granted, the simple fact of holding down a job will improve these kids' chances >of getting another job in the future, but what inner city kid would want to hold >down just one more minimum wage job when there is so much more money to be made >dealing drugs? What suburban kid would want to hold down a minimum wage job when there is so much more money to be made dealing drugs? Yet, somehow, surburban kids do hold down minimum wage jobs. So do inner city kids, when give the chance. Any reason you think that inner city kids are incapable of doing legitimate work? -- ted frank | thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | I'm sorry, the card says "Moops." the u of c law school | standard disclaimers | talk.politics.misc
From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 82 roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: >In article <C5rrot.MMM@rice.edu> fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot) writes: >>In article <C5rpoJ.IJv@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: >>>In article <1993Apr19.184303.6205@stortek.com> vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak) writes: >>>> >>> [...] >>>> 5) Point out that even if the fire was set by someone inside of the >>>> building, it came as a direct result of the actions of the FBI/BATF. >>>> And the people inside (including 17 children) deserved a trial, instead >>>> of this. >>> >>>Well they had over 40 days to come out with their hands up on national tv >>>to get the trial they deserved. Instead they chose to set fire to their >>>compund hours after the tanks dropped off the tear gas. >> >>Correction: The FBI says...talk.politics.guns
From: garrett@Ingres.COM Subject: Re: Temper tantrums from the 1960's Summary: Pathelogical liars News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1 Keywords: Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division Distribution: usa Lines: 36 In article <1993Apr15.175829.22411@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@us.oracle.com (Michael Friedman) writes... >In article <1993Apr14.231117.21872@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM writes: >>In article <philC5Ht1t.GwA@netcom.com>, phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes... >>>Correct. JFK was quite disgusting in that way. The reports of the women that >>>he coerced via power of the office are now in the dozens. Today, we';d >>>call for immediate resignation for that kind of behaviour. > >>I guess coercing women into having sex is MUCH worse than stealing, breaking >>and entering, rigging national elections, starting secret wars that kill >>hundreds of thousands, and using the powers of your office for personal >>gain like Nixon...talk.politics.misc
From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger) Subject: TV Schedule for Next Week Distribution: na Nntp-Posting-Host: lamar.acns.colostate.edu Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 20 United States TV Schedule: April 18 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 1 EST ABC (to Eastern time zone) April 18 St. Louis at Chicago 12 CDT ABC (to Cent/Mou time zones) April 18 Los Angeles at Calgary 12 PDT ABC (to Pacific time zone) April 20 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 7:30 ESPN April 22 TBA 7:30 ESPN April 24 TBA 7:30 ESPN If somebody would send me the CBC/TSN schedule I'll post that as well. ******************************************************************************* * Mike Burger * My Canada includes, Quebec, Ontario, * * mmb@lamar.colostate.edu * the Maritimes, the Prairies, and Florida * * A Beginning Computing TA Stud ...rec.sport.hockey
From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) Subject: Re: MORBUS MENIERE - is there a real remedy? Organization: WINCO Lines: 19 In article <19607@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes: >>A recent movie, Lorenzo's Oil, offers a perfect example of what >>I'm talking about. If you haven't seen it, you should. It's not > >I saw it. It is almost a unique case in history. First, ALD >is a rare but fatal disease. [...] >Their accomplishment was significant. (Of course, it was overplayed >in the movie for dramatic effect. The oil is not curative, and doesn't even >prevent progression, only slows it.) There's a pretty good article in the the March 6, 1993 New Scientist titled "Pouring cold water on Lorenzo's oil". The article states that research has shown that the oil has no discernable effect on the progression of the disease in patients in which demyelination has begun. In patients with AMN (a less acute form of the same disease) there is some improvement seen in the abilit...sci.med
Subject: Space FAQ 01/15 - Introduction From: leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech) Expires: 6 May 1993 19:53:44 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Keywords: Frequently Asked Questions Supersedes: <intro_730956346@cs.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler.cs.unc.edu Lines: 310 Archive-name: space/intro Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:10 $ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON SCI.SPACE/SCI.ASTRO INTRODUCTION This series of linked messages is periodically posted to the Usenet groups sci.space and sci.astro in an attempt to provide good answers to frequently asked questions and other reference material which is worth preserving. If you have corrections or answers to other frequently asked questions that you would like included in this posting, send email to leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech). If you don't want to see the FAQ, add 'Frequently Asked Questions' to your KILL file for this group (if you're not reading this with a newsreader that can kill articles by su...sci.space
From: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton) Subject: PC games (joystick) port Article-I.D.: ozonehol.5109.442.uupcb Reply-To: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton) Distribution: world Organization: Ozone Online Operations, Inc., DBA The Ozone Hole BBS Lines: 29 >Subject says it all - could someone tell me the pinout >for a PC type analogue joystick port? Joystick A: 1 +5 VDC 2 Button 1 3 X Axis 4 Ground 5 Ground 6 Y Axis 7 Button 2 8 + 5 VDC Joystick B: 9 +5 VDC 10 Button 1 11 X Axis 12 Ground 13 Y axis 14 Button 2 15 +5 VDC --- . SLMR 2.1 . Soft judges make hardened criminals. ---- The Ozone Hole BBS * A Private Bulletin Board Service * (504)891-3142 3 Full Service Nodes * USRobotics 16.8K bps * 10 Gigs * 100,000 Files SKYDIVE New Orleans! * RIME Network Mail HUB * 500+ Usenet Newsgrou...sci.electronics
From: lepper@logopolis.mct.anl.gov (Matt Lepper 2-5950) Subject: Help with 3C503 and NCSA Telnet Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Lines: 8 Help! I'm trying to configure NCSA Telnet v2.3.05 to work with a 3C503 ethernet board. I can use FTP fine, but whenever I attempt to use Telnet, the machine hangs with a blank screen and a blinking green cursor. Any ideas? Please e-mail: lepper@maat.mct.anl.gov mjlepper@mtu.edu comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang) Subject: Re: SHO and SC Organization: D.J. Services Lines: 21 In article <5214@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes: >In article <chrissC587qB.D1B@netcom.com> chriss@netcom.com (Chris Silvester) writes: > >>WAGON, which I have heard is somehow slightly faster than the Coupe. > > Wagon has an automatic, it's slower. > Could be due to the rear-end ratio also. Usually automatics have different rear-ends than manuals, from my limited experience anyways. David > > -- David W. Hwang, M.D. // University of Michigan Medical School 1050 Wall Street, Suite 10C // Telephone: 313/663-5557 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 // Internet: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us rec.autos
From: tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Cinnamon Bear) Subject: Onkyo 55w/ch integrated amp forsale: Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Distribution: usa Lines: 18 I have a Onkyo integrated amplifier that I am looking to get rid of. 60w/ch integra series works great not a problem Asking $100 OBO If your interested call me at (317)743-2656 or email this address. MAKE ME AN OFFER!!! Todd -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% (___________________________________ % Todd Premo / / / % Purdue Universtiy / __ __ / __ / % Environmental Engineering misc.forsale
From: gt1706a@prism.gatech.EDU (Maureen L. Eagle) Subject: WANTED Brother P-Touch Article-I.D.: hydra.91500 Distribution: usa Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 12 As it says, I'm interested in buying one of the little label-makers, and I can't afford a new one. Anybody tired of theirs? E-mail Maureen gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu -- Maureen L. Eagle Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1706a Internet: gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu misc.forsale
From: kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) Subject: Re: Emphysema question Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 14 In article <1993Apr15.180621.29465@radford.vak12ed.edu> mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich) writes: :Thanks for all your assistance. I'll see if he can try a :different brand of patches, although he's tried two brands :already. Are there more than two? The brands I can come up with off the top of my head are Nicotrol, Nicoderm and Habitrol. There may be a fourth as well. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh = = General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sci.med
From: zia@castle.ed.ac.uk (Zia Manji) Subject: HELP - E_Mail Address of Caere Corporation Organization: Edinburgh University Lines: 19 =============================================================================== I'm looking for the E_Mail Address of the Caere Corporation. Their Address is: CAERE CORPORATION 100 COOPER COURT LOS GATOS CALIFONIA 95030 If you know the address o have access to find it. Please could you send it to me. My E_Mail Address is: <zia@uk.ac.ed.castle> Thanking you in advance, Zia. comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) Subject: Re: Final Solution in Palestine ? In-Reply-To: ahmeda@McRCIM.McGill.EDU's message of Sun, 25 Apr 93 17:10:03 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University <1993Apr25.171003.10694@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> Lines: 81 In article <1993Apr25.171003.10694@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> ahmeda@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Ahmed Abu-Abed) writes: In article <HM.93Apr24133027@angell.cs.brown.edu>, hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) writes: |> In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: |> |> Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ? |> ------------------------------------ |> |> While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they |> repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and |> attempt to starve the Gazans. |> |> [...] |> |> The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were fighting to keep themselves and |> their families from...talk.politics.mideast
From: caryd@a.cs.okstate.edu (CARY DAVID ALLEN) Subject: Self-modifying hardware Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater Lines: 70 Permit me to quote fragments of praetzel@sunee.uwaterloo.ca's article out of context. -Newsgroups: sci.electronics,comp.lsi.cad -From: praetzel@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel) -Date: 10 Feb 93 15:46:41 GMT - Currently the XNF format is propierty and I know of at least on person at -a university who was able to get it after signing a non-disclosure agreement. -The Xilinx-bit map format is pretty well top secret. I would love to know it -because then you could make self_modifying_hardware ;-) As it is I had to -reverse eng. the Xilinx tools to dump the bit map to the FPGA because it only -runs on the computer with the hardware key. self-modifying hardware could be *very* interesting -- computers that could write thier own programs (assemblers, compilers) were an immense breakthrough from calculators that couldn't. ...sci.electronics
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents? Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 15 In article <1993Apr20.101044.2291@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is >enough to do it if the vehicle exists. Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation. Of course, they may be over-optimistic. You can also assume that a working SSTO would have other applications that would help pay for its development costs. I'd be inclined to make the prize somewhat larger, but $1G might be enough. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry sci.space
From: caldwell@facman.ohsu.edu (Larry Caldwell) Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University Lines: 29 Nntp-Posting-Host: facman kosinski@us.oracle.com (Kevin Osinski) writes: >I recall reading in Michael (?) Rutherford's novel "Sarum" a scene in >which the son of a Roman nobleman living in Britain takes part in a >secret ceremony involving a bull. He stands naked in a pit covered >with some sort of scaffolding while assistants coax a bull to stand on >the scaffolding. They then fatally stab the bull, which douses the >worshipper in the pit with blood. This is supposedly some sort of >rite of passage for members of the bull cult. I wonder if this is >related to the Mithras cult? > >I don't know where Rutherford got his information for this chapter. >The book is historical fiction, and most of the general events which >take place are largely based on historical accounts. There is a rite like this described in Joseph Campbell's _Occidenta...talk.religion.misc
From: rdb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ronald.j.deblock..jr) Subject: Re: Ultimate AWD vehicles Organization: AT&T Distribution: usa Lines: 14 In article <20726.2bcd8b62@ecs.umass.edu> sylveste@ecs.umass.edu writes: >Before the S4 became the S4 it was called the 200 turbo quattro 20v. >This model did come in a wagon, a very quick wagon. Very rare also. > > Mike Sylvester Umass > Yes, I saw a 200 Turbo Quattro wagon on I-287 in NJ on Monday. I thought Audi stopped selling wagons in the US after the 5000. This is exactly the type of vehicle I would like to own. I bet its price is 4-5 times my car budget. -- Ron DeBlock rdb1@homxb.att.com (that's a number 1 in rdb1, not letter l) AT&T Bell Labs Somerset, NJ USA rec.autos
From: ari@tahko.lpr.carel.fi (Ari Suutari) Subject: Any graphics packages available for AIX ? Organization: Carelcomp Oy Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: tahko.lpr.carel.fi Keywords: gks graphics Does anybody know if there are any good 2d-graphics packages available for IBM RS/6000 & AIX ? I'm looking for something like DEC's GKS or Hewlett-Packards Starbase, both of which have reasonably good support for different output devices like plotters, terminals, X etc. I have tried also xgks from X11 distribution and IBM's implementation of Phigs. Both of them work but we require more output devices than just X-windows. Our salesman at IBM was not very familiar with graphics and I am not expecting for any good solutions from there. Ari --- Ari Suutari ari@carel.fi Carelcomp Oy Lappeenranta FINLAND comp.graphics
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) Subject: Re: Let's Talk Phillies Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego Lines: 17 Nntp-Posting-Host: mbongo.ucsd.edu In article <93108.164642RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes: |> In article <1993Apr17.020347.9554@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com>, |> prg@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com (Phil Gunsul) says: ... |> ps: hey kids, take all those pictures of dead presidents out of your |> parents' wallets and mail them to: |> |> bob vesterman |> And send him a shift key too... -- Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029 rec.sport.baseball
From: nestor+@cs.cmu.edu (Nestor F Michelena) Subject: HELP!!: 0300FF error at power-up a Mac Plus Nntp-Posting-Host: nestor.cimds.ri.cmu.edu Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 7 I'm getting a sad Mac icon on a black screen with the error code 0300FF. Could someone please tell me what's wrong? Memory? Thanks a lot. I'd appreciate it infinitely... Nestor Michelena comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) Subject: Re: Alaska Pipeline and Space Station! Organization: Texas Instruments Inc Lines: 45 In <1pq7rj$q2u@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: >In article <1993Apr5.160550.7592@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: >| >|I think this would be a great way to build it, but unfortunately >|current spending rules don't permit it to be workable. For this to >|work it would be necessary for the government to guarantee a certain >|minimum amount of business in order to sufficiently reduce the risk >|enough to make this attractive to a private firm. Since they >|generally can't allocate money except one year at a time, the >|government can't provide such a tenant guarantee. >Fred. > Try reading a bit. THe government does lots of multi year >contracts with Penalty for cancellation clauses. They just like to be >damn sure they know what they are doing before they sign a multi...sci.space
From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series Nntp-Posting-Host: ug.cs.dal.ca Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada Distribution: na Lines: 38 In <1993Apr15.123803.4618@webo.dg.com> lyford@dagny.webo.dg.com (Lyford Beverage) writes: >In article <1993Apr13.202037.9485@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes: >|> In article <rudyC5Fr3q.1CL@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy Wade) writes: >|> >In article <C5FMxD.2pM@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) writes: >|> >>reference to history because he certainly didn't have the best season for >|> >>second basemen in history. He probably didn't even have as good a season as >|> >>Alomar last year. >|> > >|> >What? Do you have some measure (like popularity in Toronto doesn't count) >|> >that you are basing this statement on? >|> >|> Uh, yes. Baerga has a lot of flash, but Alomar was the better hitter >|> last year. >|> >|...rec.sport.baseball
From: turmoil@halcyon.com (Tim Crowley) Subject: Re: WACO: Clinton press conference, part 1 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston) writes: >Could y'all PLEASE stop posting this stuff to tx.general. tx.politics >is sufficient and is where this stuff belongs. Thanks. > Cathy >-- >Cathy Foulston + Rice University + Network & Systems Support + cathyf@rice.edu WHY?????????? talk.politics.guns
From: ianf@random.se (Ian Feldman, The Other Internet Worm[tm]) <1omb6fINNm7s@lynx.unm.edu> <a7d56e52@random.se> Content-Type: setext/plain; charset=ascii_827 Organization: random design -- "Opinions, cheaply" Lines: 138 Summary: formatted as two 69-line pages (use a monospaced font!) Subject: SciP+Fi: fiction set in Comp-Science\ programming environs ================ ------------------------------------------------------------ |||||||| SciP+Fi ction set in C-Sci\programming environs list by Ian Feldman ..........:::::: ---------------------------------------- ---- -------------- Written by:_____ _Book Title_; publisher'year, pp v2.7 ISBN ----------- =============================== ------- ==== ############## John Brunner _Shockwave Rider_; Ray/Ballantine'84 $5_______ 0-345-32431-5 "cracking the net to free information for the common good" Pat Cadigan _Mindplayers_; ("an absolute must-have" --Bruce Sterling) ...comp.graphics
From: kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) Subject: Re: Is LA burning yet? Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 18 In article <4892@master.CNA.TEK.COM> mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM writes: > I hear the jury reached a verdict. Where did you hear this? I seem to have missed it. > Is LA burning yet? No. Will L.A. burn? No. (Regardless of the verdict.) > I'm not near a radio. Count your blessings. -- The views expressed herein are | Theodore A. Kaldis my own only. Do you seriously | kaldis@remus.rutgers.edu believe that a major university | {...}!rutgers!remus.rutgers.edu!kaldis as this would hold such views??? | talk.politics.misc
From: pk@wet.UUCP (Philip King) Subject: PC, NETWORK and OFFICE EQUIPMENT - LONG (Repost, Lower Prices!) Keywords: PC,LAN,Novell,ethernet,IBM,laser,copier Distribution: na Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco Lines: 161 NEW POSTING, LOWER PRICES!! MAKE OFFERS ON ANYTHING THAT SEEMS INTERESTING!! A company I'm associated with is closing out some inventory and office equipment. Here's what's available: Quan. Item Description Price ea. ******* NEW ADDITIONS!! ******** 1 NOVELL * 100 USER * version of BEST OFFER NETWARE 2.15 ADVANCED NETWARE 286, with TTS, SFT II System Fault Tolerance level (Remember II (Disk Duplexing, Mirroring), v2.2 sells Transaction Tracking (Fault for $3000 Tolerant File System), etc. for 100 ...misc.forsale
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx Article-I.D.: qualcom.rdippold.735042679 Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA Lines: 11 Originator: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com Nntp-Posting-Host: qualcom.qualcomm.com jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse) writes: >Oh great. Wonderful news. Nobody can listen in--except the feds. And anybody who can get the keys from the escrow company. This is a database that's going to take plenty of updating - they think they can keep it secure? Please... and that's just primary, not secondary sources, such as police using the key under a warrant. Would anyone be surprised if they just "neglected" to erase the key if it turned out they couldn't nail you on anything? -- Nourish a waif and it will pick out your eyes. sci.crypt
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: Re: The systematic genocide of the Muslim population by the Armenians. Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 226 In article <1993Apr5.091410.4108@massey.ac.nz> CBlack@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black) writes: >Mr. Furr does it again, Very sensible. > He says >>>How many Mutlus can dance on the head of a pin? >And lo and behold, he invokes the Mr.666 of the net himself, our beloved >Serdar, a program designed to seek out the words TERRX and GHEX in the >same sentence and gets the automated reply.... Must you rave so? Fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government engaged in disgusting cowardly massacres of Azeri women and children. I am really sorry if that fact bothers you. >>Our "Mutlu"? Oboy, this is exciting. First you discuss your literature >>tastes, then your fantasies, and now your choices of entertainment. Have >>you considered just turning on the TV and leaving those of us who aren't >>brain dead to continu...talk.politics.mideast
From: dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu (Dennis Kennedy) Subject: '72 Chevelle SS forsale Organization: University of Oregon Lines: 11 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: fp2-cc-25.uoregon.edu I don't want to sell this car, but I need money for college. 1972 Chevelle Super Sport Rebuilt 402, four speed, 12 Bolt positrac Numbers match 110,000 original miles no rust Looks and runs excellent $5995 or best offer. Call Dennis at (503)343-3759 or email dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu rec.autos
From: tgl+@cs.cmu.edu (Tom Lane) Subject: JPEG image compression: Frequently Asked Questions Summary: Useful info about JPEG (JPG) image files and programs Keywords: JPEG, image compression, FAQ Supersedes: <jpeg-faq_733898461@g.gp.cs.cmu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: g.gp.cs.cmu.edu Reply-To: jpeg-info@uunet.uu.net Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Expires: Sun, 16 May 1993 21:39:30 GMT Lines: 1027 Archive-name: jpeg-faq Last-modified: 18 April 1993 This FAQ article discusses JPEG image compression. Suggestions for additions and clarifications are welcome. New since version of 3 April 1993: * New versions of Image Archiver and PMJPEG for OS/2. This article includes the following sections: [1] What is JPEG? [2] Why use JPEG? [3] When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF? [4] How well does JPEG compress images? [5] What are good "quality" settings for JPEG? [6] Where can I get JPEG software? [6A] "canned" software, viewers, etc. [6...comp.graphics
From: kastle@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Jacques W Brouillette) Subject: Re: ARCTIC WHEELS AUTO SHOW Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: bernoulli.wpi.edu -- : I want only two things from this world, a 58 Plymouth and a small : : OPEC nation with which to fuel it. This would be a good and just : : thing. Car Smashers can just go home and sulk. : : Jacques Brouillette --- Manufacturing Engineering : rec.autos
From: RYLV80@waccvm.corp.mot.com (William Mohrman) Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding Organization: Motorola Nntp-Posting-Host: waccvm.corp.mot.com Lines: 43 > > What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? Couple hours after >you "feel" sober? What? Or should I just work with "If I drink tonight, I >don't ride until tomorrow"? This thread brings back memorys of an expensive day in traffic court a few years ago. While I was waiting my turn to state my case and plea of why I was going 75 in a 55 in my cage, I had the opportunity to listen to some of the "creative excuses" offered the judge by others. After listening to a number of "Well, I was passing a very slow truck that suddenly speed up" versions, I decided that the judge had heard just about every story in the book and then some. He was less than impressed with any of them. This young, rather burley looking guy, had his docket read by a rather drill sargent looking Ohio State Highyway Patrol Trooper. He was clocke...rec.motorcycles
From: s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Lost Cause) Subject: Connection Machine Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au Hiya all, I realise this has little to do with pc's but it does have a lot to do with hardware.... So, has nay of you heard of a computer called the Connection Machine. If so, could you e-mail me any and all info you have, eg- references, ideas etc. All help is appreciated. Caviar Dreams L.Cause -- +----s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU---Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology---+ | _/ "Music is like directing sounds theatrically, moulding them into | | _/_/ landscapes.. I wanted to link my music to places, architectural | | _/_/_/ environments and visual techniques." - J.M.Jarre | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) Subject: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart..." Organization: Educational Computing Network Lines: 59 Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience. The meaning of my existence is a question I ask myself daily. I live in fear of what will happen when I die. I bet some of you are licking your lips now, because you think that I'm a person on the edge of accepting jeezus. I was raised in a religious atmosphere, and attended 13 years of religious educational institutions.. I know the bible well. So well I can recognize many passages from memory. <<****Strong opinions start here...****>> 1) The human being is an _animal_ who has, due to his/her advanced mental facilities, developed religious as a satisfiable solution to explain the unexplainable. (For example the ancient Greeks believed that Apollo drove his chariot across the sky each d...soc.religion.christian

Showing the first 492 rows.

df.printSchema()
root |-- text: string (nullable = true) |-- topic: string (nullable = true)

Define ML Pipeline

val labelIndexer = new StringIndexer()
  .setInputCol("topic")
  .setOutputCol("label")
  .setHandleInvalid("keep")
labelIndexer: org.apache.spark.ml.feature.StringIndexer = strIdx_1b969fa843ea 
val tokenizer = new Tokenizer().setInputCol("text").setOutputCol("words")
val hashingTF = new HashingTF().setInputCol("words").setOutputCol("features")
tokenizer: org.apache.spark.ml.feature.Tokenizer = tok_696a8d662e15 hashingTF: org.apache.spark.ml.feature.HashingTF = hashingTF_f438b2a1946e 
val dt = new DecisionTreeClassifier()
val pipeline = new Pipeline()
  .setStages(Array(labelIndexer, tokenizer, hashingTF, dt))
dt: org.apache.spark.ml.classification.DecisionTreeClassifier = dtc_41f26320e212 pipeline: org.apache.spark.ml.Pipeline = pipeline_7e460634514c

Tune ML Pipeline

val paramGrid = new ParamGridBuilder()
  .addGrid(hashingTF.numFeatures, Array(1000, 2000))
  .build()

val cv = new CrossValidator()
  .setEstimator(pipeline)
  .setEvaluator(new MulticlassClassificationEvaluator())
  .setEstimatorParamMaps(paramGrid)
paramGrid: Array[org.apache.spark.ml.param.ParamMap] = Array({ hashingTF_f438b2a1946e-numFeatures: 1000 }, { hashingTF_f438b2a1946e-numFeatures: 2000 }) cv: org.apache.spark.ml.tuning.CrossValidator = cv_9fcdcf98cef3 
val cvModel = cv.fit(df)
cvModel: org.apache.spark.ml.tuning.CrossValidatorModel = cv_9fcdcf98cef3 
val model = cvModel.bestModel.asInstanceOf[PipelineModel]
model: org.apache.spark.ml.PipelineModel = pipeline_1d778a1961fa 
val sparkTransformed = model.transform(df)

display(sparkTransformed)
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) Subject: Re: Creating 8 bit windows on 24 bit display.. How? Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines Lines: 59 In article <1993Apr16.093209.25719@fwi.uva.nl>, stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Bram) writes: > I am using an X server that provides 3 visuals: PseudoColor 8 bit, > Truecolor 24 bit and DirectColor 24 bit. Lucky dog... :-) > A problem occurs when I try to create a window with a visual that is > different from the visual of the parent (which uses the default > visual which is TC24). > In the Xlib reference guide from 'O reilly one can read in the > section about XCteateWindow, something like: > In the current implementation of X11: When using a visual other > than the parent's, be sure to create or find a suitable colourmap > which is to be used in the window attributes when creating, or > else a BadMatch occurs. > This warning, strangely enough, is only mentioned in the newer > editions of the 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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: ORGAN DONATION AND TRANSPLANTATION FACT SHEET Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 26 In article <1993Apr13.150018.641@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com writes: >My wife cannot donate blood because she has been to a malarial region >in the past three years. In fact, she tried to have her bone marrow >typed and they wouldn't even do that! Why? > The FDA, I believe. Rules say no blood or blood products donations from anyone who has been in a malarial area for 3 years. I was a platelet donor until my Thailand trip and my blood bank was very disappointed to find out they couldn't use me for 3 years. > >When the secretary of state asked me if I wanted to donate my >organs I said no because I figured that no one would want them >given my history. Was I correct? > Not necessarily. The same rules may not apply to organ donation as to blood donation. In fact, I'm ...sci.med5["from:","geb@cs.pitt.edu","(gordon","banks)","subject:","re:","organ","donation","and","transplantation","fact","sheet","reply-to:","geb@cs.pitt.edu","(gordon","banks)","organization:","univ.","of","pittsburgh","computer","science","lines:","26","","in","article","<1993apr13.150018.641@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>","dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com","writes:","",">my","wife","cannot","donate","blood","because","she","has","been","to","a","malarial","region",">in","the","past","three","years.","","in","fact,","she","tried","to","have","her","bone","marrow",">typed","and","they","wouldn't","even","do","that!","","why?",">","the","fda,","i","believe.","","rules","say","no","blood","or","blood","products","donations","from","anyone","who","has","been","in","a","malarial","area","for","3","years.","","i","was","a","platelet","donor","until","my","thailand","trip","and","my","blood","bank","was","very","disappointed","to","find","out","they","couldn't","use","me","for","3","years.","",">",">when","the","secretary","of","state","asked","me","if","i","wanted","to","donate","my",">organs","i","said","no","because","i","figured","that","no","one","would","want","them",">given","my","history.","","was","i","correct?",">","not","necessarily.","","the","same","rules","may","not","apply","to","organ","donation","as","to","blood","donation.","","in","fact,","i'm","sure","they","don't.","","","","--","","----------------------------------------------------------------------------","gordon","banks","","n3jxp","","","","","","|","\"skepticism","is","the","chastity","of","the","intellect,","and","geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu","","","|","","it","is","shameful","to","surrender","it","too","soon.\"","","----------------------------------------------------------------------------"][0,1000,[0,16,18,21,31,35,36,41,44,48,63,67,88,122,151,163,168,170,173,179,182,187,194,199,201,204,206,209,215,217,231,234,247,248,259,264,265,275,281,282,294,295,299,312,320,329,333,341,343,346,349,372,388,395,406,415,418,421,424,428,430,445,453,456,470,471,477,488,489,495,510,514,519,520,525,534,535,537,572,580,586,602,616,630,644,648,649,653,654,656,657,666,667,675,679,694,709,710,712,719,728,736,745,751,760,765,768,780,782,788,808,821,852,916,921,924,931,944,966,977,978,982,994,995],[1,2,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,4,1,3,3,1,24,9,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,2,1,6,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,2,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) Subject: Re: THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 15 In article <1993Apr17.160731.3178@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> alaa@peewee.unx.dec.com (Alaa Zeineldine) writes: >nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer) writes: >: >: THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH >: >: (Following is a transcript of a recruitment and training >: videotape made last summer by the Qassam Battalions, the military >> >Alaa Zeineldine While you brought up the separate question of Israel's unjustified policies and practices, I am still unclear about your reaction to the practices and polocies reflected in the article above. Tim talk.politics.mideast15["from:","tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu","(tim","clock)","subject:","re:","the","hamas","way","of","death","nntp-posting-host:","orion.oac.uci.edu","organization:","university","of","california,","irvine","lines:","15","","in","article","<1993apr17.160731.3178@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>","alaa@peewee.unx.dec.com","(alaa","zeineldine)","writes:",">nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com","(naftaly","stramer)","writes:",">:","",">:","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","the","hamas","way","of","death",">:","","",">:","","","","","","(following","is","a","transcript","of","a","recruitment","and","training",">:","videotape","made","last","summer","by","the","qassam","battalions,","the","military",">>",">alaa","zeineldine","","while","you","brought","up","the","separate","question","of","israel's","unjustified","policies","and","practices,","i","am","still","unclear","about","your","reaction","to","the","practices","and","polocies","reflected","in","the","article","above.","","tim"][0,1000,[6,45,79,101,121,124,128,140,159,170,173,177,191,192,207,223,224,232,261,263,275,281,300,302,329,333,343,344,352,372,385,388,392,411,412,414,416,425,428,433,445,456,470,481,503,514,522,538,595,628,630,667,700,701,707,710,718,751,777,800,808,818,826,832,840,873,876,877,947,989,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,2,2,1,1,1,1,3,5,1,2,32,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Adam Levin) Subject: Re: Best Sportwriters... Reply-To: st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu Organization: Brandeis University Lines: 23 In article <C5K7nK.7tv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rkoffler@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Bighelmet) writes: >csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu (Ian M. Derby) writes: > > >>Since someone brought up sports radio, howabout sportswriting??? > >I happen to be a big fan of Jayson Stark. He is a baseball writer for the >Philadelphia Inquirer. Every tuesday he writes a "Week in Review" column. >He writes about unusual situations that occured during the week. Unusual >stats. He has a section called "Kinerisms of the Week" which are stupid >lines by Mets brodcaster Ralph Kiner. Every year he has the LGTGAH contest. >That stands for "Last guy to get a hit." He also writes for Baseball >America. That column is sort of a highlights of "Week in Review." If you >can, check his column out sometime. He might make you laugh. Might? You'd have to have no s...rec.sport.baseball3["from:","st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu","(adam","levin)","subject:","re:","best","sportwriters...","reply-to:","st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu","organization:","brandeis","university","lines:","23","","in","article","<c5k7nk.7tv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>,","rkoffler@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu","(bighelmet)","writes:",">csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu","(ian","m.","derby)","writes:",">",">",">>since","someone","brought","up","sports","radio,","howabout","sportswriting???",">",">i","happen","to","be","a","big","fan","of","jayson","stark.","","he","is","a","baseball","writer","for","the","",">philadelphia","inquirer.","","every","tuesday","he","writes","a","\"week","in","review\"","column.","","",">he","writes","about","unusual","situations","that","occured","during","the","week.","","unusual",">stats.","","he","has","a","section","called","\"kinerisms","of","the","week\"","which","are","stupid",">lines","by","mets","brodcaster","ralph","kiner.","","every","year","he","has","the","lgtgah","contest.",">that","stands","for","\"last","guy","to","get","a","hit.\"","","he","also","writes","for","baseball","",">america.","","that","column","is","sort","of","a","highlights","of","\"week","in","review.\"","","if","you","",">can,","check","his","column","out","sometime.","","he","might","make","you","laugh.","","might?","you'd","have","to","have","no","sense","of","humor","at","all","not","to!","my","favorite","stuff","are","the","zero","heros,","players","who","haven't","hit","homers","in","a","long","time,","","the","lgtgah","(who","is","that","named","after,","i","can't","remember),","and","the","box","score","line","of","the","week.","incidentally,","i","just","found","out","that","the","column","has","been","moved","to","sundays.","i","get","my","dad","to","send","it","to","me","up","here","in","boston","every","","week.","great","stuff!","","adam","\"a","phaithful","phillies","phan\"","levin"][0,1000,[5,6,10,18,19,23,29,36,44,86,89,118,121,128,135,138,145,153,157,170,173,174,176,178,179,182,192,207,217,223,238,245,248,251,258,260,277,281,287,299,301,307,316,329,333,343,346,372,380,385,388,398,412,418,425,428,445,446,464,470,471,479,480,495,504,507,512,513,514,523,525,526,533,535,542,547,558,559,563,580,597,598,601,602,605,608,609,616,621,648,653,654,656,667,682,696,710,712,714,720,724,727,741,747,750,751,754,756,760,763,777,792,800,808,818,825,841,855,863,874,875,882,887,895,899,904,913,916,923,924,930,936,939,952,954,955,958,959,968,974,977,979,985,994,995,997],[1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,3,1,6,1,19,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,9,4,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,6]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: bearpaw@world.std.com (bearpaw) Subject: Re: MOW BODYCOUNT Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 33 spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes: >> Any thoughts on who is going to count all of the gorgeous bodies at >> the MOW? The press? The White House Staff? The most Junior >> Senator? The King of the motss/bi? >> >> Just curious as to whose bias we are going to see when the numbers >> get brought out. > >Probably, law enforcement people (Park Service Police and D.C. cops), >who will use aerial photographs and extrapolate based on the >density of the crowd in small regions. > >These sort of techniques derive from Army Intelligence and CIA >methods of estimating troop strength, and tend to be >methodologically skewed to always come up with inflated numbers, >so as to justify bigger budgets. Judging from past experience (the '87 March, a Peace and Justice March the same year, and 3 different Pro-coice Marches), The Park Service will com...talk.politics.misc18["from:","bearpaw@world.std.com","(bearpaw)","subject:","re:","mow","bodycount","organization:","the","world","public","access","unix,","brookline,","ma","lines:","33","","spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu","(steve","pope)","writes:","",">>","any","thoughts","on","who","is","going","to","count","all","of","the","gorgeous","bodies","at","",">>","the","mow?","","the","press?","","the","white","house","staff?","","the","most","junior","",">>","senator?","","the","king","of","the","motss/bi?","","",">>",">>","just","curious","as","to","whose","bias","we","are","going","to","see","when","the","numbers","",">>","get","brought","out.",">",">probably,","law","enforcement","people","(park","service","police","and","d.c.","cops),",">who","will","use","aerial","photographs","and","extrapolate","based","on","the",">density","of","the","crowd","in","small","regions.",">",">these","sort","of","techniques","derive","from","army","intelligence","and","cia",">methods","of","estimating","troop","strength,","and","tend","to","be",">methodologically","skewed","to","always","come","up","with","inflated","numbers,",">so","as","to","justify","bigger","budgets.","","judging","from","past","experience","(the","'87","march,","a","peace","and","justice","march","the","","same","year,","and","3","different","pro-coice","marches),","the","park","service","will","come","out","with","an","estimate","that","is","approximately","1/2","the","estimate","that","organizers","will","come","up","with","-","though","the","last","choice","march","i","went","to","had","a","sign-in","system,","","and","the","numbers","ended","up","closer.","","and","then","you've","got","the","media","types","in","their","helicopters,","rolling","dice.","","i","believe","the","mow","plans","and","handing","out","some","sort","of","wristband","thingy,","and","","basing","their","count","on","those.","","i","see","two","problems","with","this.","","one,","can","they","","get","*everybody*","to","take","one","(and","only","one)?","","two,","they","couldn't","possibly","have","been","able","to","choose","a","color/design","that","won't","clash","with","*somebody's*","outfit!","",":->","bearpaw"][0,1000,[5,7,10,13,43,44,48,49,51,53,74,76,77,82,89,91,96,108,113,123,128,131,138,145,147,150,154,168,170,179,181,182,189,195,197,217,224,234,235,249,271,273,275,280,281,286,299,307,312,314,323,329,333,339,343,344,360,364,371,372,381,385,386,388,390,399,400,402,407,408,413,418,420,428,430,439,445,446,452,453,457,465,473,475,477,486,489,493,494,495,496,497,498,499,514,515,520,521,532,533,535,545,554,566,569,572,573,579,596,625,626,628,630,650,654,656,667,671,683,688,692,702,706,710,714,718,720,726,742,745,751,752,753,756,760,762,770,774,778,795,796,798,808,810,817,819,829,831,833,855,862,870,871,888,897,898,899,900,910,921,934,959,963,964,968,981,982,986,989,993,994,995],[1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,10,1,6,1,1,2,1,22,1,1,1,9,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,6,5,2,3,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,18,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: jwindley@cheap.cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley) Subject: Mormon temples Organization: University of Utah CS Dept Lines: 113 mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server) writes: | One thing I don't understand is why being sacred should make the | temple rituals secret. The "so sacred it's secret" explanation is a bit misleading. While there is a profound reverence for the temple endowment, there is no injunction against discussing the ceremony itself in public. But since public discussion is often irreverent, most Mormons would rather keep silent than have a cherished practice maligned. But there are certain elements of the ceremony which participants explicitly covenant not to reveal except in conjunction with the ceremony itself. | Granted, the Gnostic "Christians" | had their secret rituals, but these seem to have been taken entirely | from pagan pre-Christian mystery religions. There are other interpretations to Christian history in this matter. One must recall that most of what we 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From: robin@ntmtv.com (Robin Coutellier) Subject: Critique of Pressure Point Massager Originator: robin@volans Nntp-Posting-Host: volans Reply-To: robin@ntmtv.com (Robin Coutellier) Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA Distribution: na Lines: 141 As promised, below is a personal critique of a Pressure Point Massager I recently bought from the Self Care Catalog. I am very pleased with the results. The catalog description is as follows: The Pressure Point Massager is an aggressive physical massager that actually kneads the tension out of muscles ... much like a professional shiatsu masseur. The powerful motor drives two counter-rotating "thumbs" that move in one-inch orbits -- releasing tension in the neck, back, legs and arms. Pressure Point Massager A2623 $109 To order or receive a catalog, call (24 hours, 7 days) 1-800-345-3371 or fax at 1-800-345-4021. ******** NOTE: When I ordered the massager, the item number was different, and the price was 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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) Subject: Re: dogs Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View Lines: 35 In article <93Apr20.193958.30419@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes: }Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human, }we have *all* the advantages. I agree with this 100%. After all, when you grab under his chin and are careful to keep your hands away from his twisting head, what is he going to do -- tailwag you to death? I even had one occasion where I was unexpectedly jumped by a 130 lb. German Shepherd and grabbed his upper jaw in one hand and his lower jaw in the other. Now I'm holding his mouth open (no way is he strong enough to clamp down) and he can do nothing. HOWEVER, all this macho shit aside, the fact is that when you are riding a bike and a dog is arrowing to intercept, it may be unwise for you to stop and try to deal with the dog, for the simple fact that it might be through your leathers and working on your ...rec.motorcycles2["from:","cjackson@adobe.com","(curtis","jackson)","subject:","re:","dogs","organization:","adobe","systems","incorporated,","mountain","view","lines:","35","","in","article","<93apr20.193958.30419@acs.ucalgary.ca>","parr@acs.ucalgary.ca","(charles","parr)","writes:","}sheesh,","even","a","trained","attack","dog","is","no","match","for","a","human,","}we","have","*all*","the","advantages.","","i","agree","with","this","100%.","after","all,","when","you","grab","under","his","chin","and","are","careful","to","keep","your","hands","away","from","his","twisting","head,","what","is","he","going","to","do","--","tailwag","you","to","death?","i","even","had","one","occasion","where","i","was","unexpectedly","jumped","by","a","130","lb.","german","shepherd","and","grabbed","his","upper","jaw","in","one","hand","and","his","lower","jaw","in","the","other.","now","i'm","holding","his","mouth","open","(no","way","is","he","strong","enough","to","clamp","down)","and","he","can","do","nothing.","","however,","all","this","macho","shit","aside,","the","fact","is","that","when","you","are","riding","a","bike","and","a","dog","is","arrowing","to","intercept,","it","may","be","unwise","for","you","to","stop","and","try","to","deal","with","the","dog,","for","the","simple","fact","that","it","might","be","through","your","leathers","and","working","on","your","jeans","before","you","can","dismount","and","deal","with","it","properly.","","by","all","means,","if","you","do","kick","the","dog","or","otherwise","get","its","attention,","stop","and","stay","there.","if","you","kick","the","dog","and","ride","away,","that","is","a","victory","for","the","dog","--","it","drove","you","out","of","its","territory.","it","is","not","even","a","qualified","victory,","it","is","a","victory.","if","you","kick","it","and","stop,","and","sit","there,","99%","of","dogs","will","say,","\"oh,","shit!","this","guy's","serious!\"","and","back","off.","now","you","have","established","your","dominance","over","the","dog,","and","it","probably","will","not","bother","you","again.","","llamas,","however,","are","a","different","story.","if","you","stop","near","a","llama,","it","will","just","hop","on","and","insist","on","a","ride.","and","that's","if","you're","lucky;","if","it","doesn't","like","you","it'll","barf","you","off","the","bike","and","steal","it!","--","","curtis","jackson","","","","cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com","'91","hawk","gt","'81","maxim","650","dod#0721","kotb","","'91","black","lab","mix","\"studley","doright\"","","'92","collie/golden","\"george\"","\"there","is","no","justification","for","taking","away","individuals'","freedom","","in","the","guise","of","public","safety.\"","--","thomas","jefferson"][0,1000,[0,7,9,16,18,19,20,22,36,39,40,44,45,50,52,58,68,70,76,77,78,82,89,94,98,100,101,129,134,138,139,141,149,158,159,161,162,170,173,178,187,194,215,216,220,223,232,234,255,263,265,266,271,281,285,293,294,295,296,297,299,300,301,307,312,323,328,329,330,333,341,343,346,349,352,368,372,373,376,380,383,385,388,406,420,423,425,427,428,430,432,433,445,446,453,455,458,460,466,470,475,478,487,489,493,495,497,498,500,509,514,517,526,534,542,543,548,551,553,559,593,594,601,628,630,633,635,637,639,642,644,650,651,654,656,660,661,663,666,667,670,672,675,676,677,684,688,698,706,710,723,732,737,747,751,760,761,764,771,780,783,784,796,801,808,818,821,833,847,862,869,875,880,898,903,904,905,906,910,912,921,924,939,943,953,957,959,961,968,974,975,980,984,985,989,995,997],[1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,6,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,17,4,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,3,1,17,1,3,3,1,1,1,12,3,1,6,1,1,8,3,3,1,14,1,1,1,1,4,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,10,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,11,2,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: dingbat@diku.dk (Niels Skov Olsen) Subject: Re: Rockwell Chipset for 14.4's ... Any good? Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen Lines: 33 tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes: >In article <im14u2c.735176900@camelot> im14u2c@camelot.bradley.edu (Joe Zbiciak) writes: >>What's the word on the chipset? Is this a ROM bug specific >>to a specific brand using the Rockwell, or is it the Rockwell >>chipset itself? >There were an assortment of firmware problems, but that is pretty much >expected with any FAX/modem talking with a different FAX or modem >which may have also been revised or is new. I'm pretty much >oblivious to any current firmware problems, so you'll have to get it >from someone else. Someone Else, could you please comment on that. I have just bought a Twincom 14.4DFi, which has a Rockwell chipset. It wasn't cheap so I would like to hear of problems I'm likely to run into. >However, I can tell you to stay clear of any board which u...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","dingbat@diku.dk","(niels","skov","olsen)","subject:","re:","rockwell","chipset","for","14.4's","...","any","good?","organization:","department","of","computer","science,","u","of","copenhagen","lines:","33","","tdbear@dvorak.amd.com","(thomas","d.","barrett)","writes:","",">in","article","<im14u2c.735176900@camelot>","im14u2c@camelot.bradley.edu","(joe","zbiciak)","writes:",">>what's","the","word","on","the","chipset?","","is","this","a","rom","bug","specific","",">>to","a","specific","brand","using","the","rockwell,","or","is","it","the","rockwell",">>chipset","itself?","",">there","were","an","assortment","of","firmware","problems,","but","that","is","pretty","much",">expected","with","any","fax/modem","talking","with","a","different","fax","or","modem",">which","may","have","also","been","revised","or","is","new.","","i'm","pretty","much",">oblivious","to","any","current","firmware","problems,","so","you'll","have","to","get","it",">from","someone","else.","","someone","else,","could","you","please","comment","on","that.","i","have","just","bought","a","twincom","14.4dfi,","which","has","a","rockwell","chipset.","it","wasn't","cheap","so","i","would","like","to","hear","of","problems","i'm","likely","to","run","into.","",">however,","i","can","tell","you","to","stay","clear","of","any","board","which","uses","the",">rockwell","mpu","(as","opposed","to","the","dpu)","for","an","internal","implementation.",">this","is","because","the","mpu","used","\"speed","buffering\"","instead","of","having","a",">16550","interface.","","without","the","550","interface,","the","number","of","interrupts",">are","still","the","same","and","thus","may","get","dropped","under","multitasking",">conditions","(like","in","windows).","","as","far","as","i","know,","the","\"speed","buffering\"",">works","ok","for","external","modems","if","a","550","is","used","on","the","internal","serial",">port","board.","","phew,","i","was","lucky!","the","twincom","internal","version","has","a","550a","and","one","of","the","rockwell","chips","is","marked","rc144dp.","","but","still","i","would","like","to","hear","more","of","the","above","mentioned","firmware","problems.","","niels"][0,1000,[18,31,36,39,41,44,49,51,53,59,74,82,83,86,89,91,93,95,111,113,123,127,128,135,145,151,159,161,163,170,186,187,202,213,228,234,243,249,264,280,281,294,295,299,303,304,307,324,329,330,332,333,343,345,346,359,364,368,372,373,375,377,388,421,425,428,430,433,445,447,466,470,471,472,477,482,484,495,501,508,512,514,519,524,526,533,535,543,562,569,572,575,580,583,586,597,600,605,619,623,624,629,630,641,644,650,656,660,666,667,669,672,675,684,690,705,709,710,714,716,733,734,739,740,750,751,752,760,769,792,800,801,806,808,809,833,841,842,850,853,863,870,882,883,884,888,904,908,914,922,924,959,962,963,973,983,991,993,994,995,997],[2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,3,2,3,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,9,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,2,3,3,1,1,1,1,6,2,1,3,9,1,2,1,1,2,14,1,2,1,9,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,2,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,16,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: steveg@bach.udel.edu (Steven N Gaudino) Subject: Dbase IV for sale (price reduced!) Nntp-Posting-Host: bach.udel.edu Organization: University of Delaware Distribution: usa Lines: 4 Dbase IV 1.5 for sale, 3.5 inch disks, all registration included (so you can upgrade to 2.0 if you want), manuals still shrinkwrapped, disks only opened to verify they all work. Asking $175 or best offer. misc.forsale12["from:","steveg@bach.udel.edu","(steven","n","gaudino)","subject:","dbase","iv","for","sale","(price","reduced!)","nntp-posting-host:","bach.udel.edu","organization:","university","of","delaware","distribution:","usa","lines:","4","","dbase","iv","1.5","for","sale,","3.5","inch","disks,","all","registration","included","(so","you","can","upgrade","to","2.0","if","you","want),","manuals","still","shrinkwrapped,","disks","only","opened","to","verify","they","all","work.","","asking","$175","or","best","offer."][0,1000,[36,48,67,79,116,153,157,161,170,187,242,284,293,299,333,343,361,365,372,378,379,388,412,425,428,443,470,514,533,541,619,655,665,667,668,711,715,717,751,763,773,775,777,782,800,814,833,899,909,966,968,969],[2,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[3,0,11,4,0,1,9,1,4,1,8,11,176,6,6,2,3,0,1,0,0]][1,21,[],[0.012145748987854251,0,0.044534412955465584,0.016194331983805668,0,0.004048582995951417,0.03643724696356275,0.004048582995951417,0.016194331983805668,0.004048582995951417,0.032388663967611336,0.044534412955465584,0.7125506072874493,0.024291497975708502,0.024291497975708502,0.008097165991902834,0.012145748987854251,0,0.004048582995951417,0,0]]12
From: mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Marc Gabriel) Subject: Re: How to Diagnose Lyme... really Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 44 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Gordon Banks (geb@cs.pitt.edu) wrote: : In article <1993Apr12.201056.20753@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu ( Marc Gabriel) writes: : >Now, I'm not saying that culturing is the best way to diagnose; it's very : >hard to culture Bb in most cases. The point is that Dr. N has developed a : >"feel" for what is and what isn't LD. This comes from years of experience. : >No serology can match that. Unfortunately, some would call Dr. N a "quack" : >and accuse him of trying to make a quick buck. : > : Why do you think he would be called a quack? The quacks don't do cultures. : They poo-poo doing more lab tests: "this is Lyme, believe me, I've : seen it many times. The lab tests aren't accurate. We'll treat it : now." Also, is Dr. N's practice almost exclusively devoted to treating : Lyme patients? 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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com Subject: Re: A question about 120VAC outlet wiring.. Organization: Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego, CA Lines: 43 In article <1993Apr14.172145.27458@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>, crisp@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Russ Crisp) writes: > I'm considering modernizing some old wiring in my home, and > I need a little advice on outlet wiring. Several outlets > are the old 'two prong' type, without the ground. Naturally, > the wire feeding these outlets is 12/2, WITHOUT the ground > wire. I noticed at the fusebox that some circuits have the > 12/2 with ground, and that on these circuits, the ground > wire was tied to the same bus as the neutral (white) wire. > > SO.. Here's my question. It seems to me that I'd have the > same electrical circuit if I hooked the jumper from the neutral > over to the ground screw on new 'three prong' grounding outlets. > What's wrong with my reasoning here? No. No. NOOO!!! The ground (green) wire is for safety. No current is supposed to flow in it 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From: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi) Subject: Re: Supply Side Economic Policy (was Re: David Stockman ) Reply-To: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi) Distribution: na Organization: Pyramid Technologies, Mt. View, California. Lines: 43 In article <Ufk_Gqu00WBKE7cX5V@andrew.cmu.edu>, ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora) writes: |> Excerpts from netnews.sci.econ: 5-Apr-93 Re: Supply Side Economic Po.. |> by Not a Boomer@desire.wrig |> [...] |> |> > The deficits declined from 84-9, reaching a low of 2.9% of GNP before |> > the tax and spending hike of 1990 reversed the trend. |> > |> > Brett |> Is this true ? Some more details would be appreciated. |> |> cheers Actually not. Brett himself has actually posted the data previously. What declined from 84 to 89, as I remember it, was _percent increase_in_deficit_growth, i.e. the rate of growth of the deficit (2nd derivative of total deficit with respect of to time) decreased. 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From: D.Haywood@sheffield-hallam.ac.UK (Dave Haywood) Subject: tvtwm & xsetroot, X11R5 and Sparc 10 keyboard Organization: Sheffield Hallam University Lines: 66 Reply-To: D.Haywood@sheffield-hallam.ac.uk To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu Hi, Please reply to me direct as I am not a member of this list. I am new to X, so please excuse my lax (read: "probably incorrect") terminology! Environment: Sun Sparc 10, SunOs 4.1.3. X11R5 path level 23. My X process is started by xdm. i) I want to setup the backgroud (root window?) of the tvtwm display to display the escherknot etc (grey is a very boring colour to work on)! The setup is as follows: lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 - xsetroot -bitmap ... etc ~user/.xsession - xsetroot .... etc tvtwm There are also .tvtwmrc and .Xdefaults files in the (~user) home directory. 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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) Subject: Re: Braves Pitching UpdateDIR Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Lines: 13 In article <1993Apr15.010745.1@acad.drake.edu> sbp002@acad.drake.edu writes: >or second starter. It seems to me that when quality pitchers take the >mound, the other teams score less runs. The team that scores the most >runs wins. This puts the team with the better pitching at the advantage >(providing they can stop the opposing team from scoring runs). A low >scoring game would clearly benefit the Braves. Not clear to me at all. I'd certainly rather have a team who was winning 4-1 games than 2-1 games. In the 2-1 game, luck is going to play a much bigger role than in the 4-1 game. Sherri Nichols snichols@adobe.com rec.sport.baseball3["from:","snichols@adobe.com","(sherri","nichols)","subject:","re:","braves","pitching","updatedir","organization:","adobe","systems","incorporated","lines:","13","","in","article","<1993apr15.010745.1@acad.drake.edu>","sbp002@acad.drake.edu","writes:",">or","second","starter.","","it","seems","to","me","that","when","quality","pitchers","take","the",">mound,","the","other","teams","score","less","runs.","","the","team","that","scores","the","most","",">runs","wins.","","this","puts","the","team","with","the","better","pitching","at","the","advantage",">(providing","they","can","stop","the","opposing","team","from","scoring","runs).","","a","low","",">scoring","game","would","clearly","benefit","the","braves.","","","not","clear","to","me","at","all.","","i'd","certainly","rather","have","a","team","who","was","winning","4-1","games","than","2-1","games.","","in","the","2-1","game,","luck","is","going","to","play","a","much","bigger","role","than","in","the","4-1","game.","","","sherri","nichols","snichols@adobe.com"][0,1000,[18,35,48,76,77,89,116,161,163,170,173,184,195,217,226,234,261,277,281,294,299,310,317,331,346,350,369,372,373,375,388,390,414,427,428,432,437,445,468,470,471,472,487,493,495,497,514,519,524,534,535,541,544,546,551,564,617,618,650,667,674,697,700,710,747,751,753,756,760,770,780,796,808,833,850,855,871,874,878,895,905,915,921,924,941,957,959,975,993,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,13,1,1,3,1,2,1,3,1,1,3,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: matthew@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Matthew Kleinmann) Subject: Is a 2 headed Sun 3/60 possible (cgfour0/bwtwo0) Organization: Alchemy International Lines: 12 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: alchemy.tn.cornell.edu I have a Sun 3/60 that has a mono framebuffer (bwtwo0 ?) built on the motherboard. The same system also has a cgfour (cgfour0 and bwtwo1 ?) daughterboard. I have been using this system with a color monitor having a color "front" screen from the cgfour, and a mono "back" screen from the bwtwo1, both on the same tube. I recentley picked up a 1600 x 1280 Sun mono monitor, and I would like to make a two headed system with the cgfour0 and the bwtwo0. I do not care if I loose the "back" screen on the color tube from the bwtwo1. After looking through the Xsun man page I am not sure if this is possible. Has anybody sucessfuly done this before? --Matthew comp.windows.x8["from:","matthew@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu","(matthew","kleinmann)","subject:","is","a","2","headed","sun","3/60","possible","(cgfour0/bwtwo0)","organization:","alchemy","international","lines:","12","distribution:","world","nntp-posting-host:","alchemy.tn.cornell.edu","","i","have","a","sun","3/60","that","has","a","mono","framebuffer","(bwtwo0","?)","built","on","the","motherboard.","","the","same","system","also","has","a","cgfour","(cgfour0","and","bwtwo1","?)","daughterboard.","","i","have","been","using","this","system","with","a","color","monitor","having","a","color","\"front\"","screen","from","the","cgfour,","and","a","mono","\"back\"","screen","from","the","bwtwo1,","both","on","the","same","tube.","","i","recentley","picked","up","a","1600","x","1280","sun","mono","monitor,","and","i","would","like","to","make","a","two","headed","system","with","the","cgfour0","and","the","bwtwo0.","","i","do","not","care","if","i","loose","the","\"back\"","screen","on","the","color","tube","from","the","bwtwo1.","","after","looking","through","the","xsun","man","page","i","am","not","sure","if","this","is","possible.","","has","anybody","sucessfuly","done","this","before?","","","","--matthew"][0,1000,[2,8,18,19,68,71,77,79,82,90,93,100,126,128,131,150,154,163,170,173,184,195,230,260,275,281,286,299,310,315,329,330,333,372,373,377,388,408,409,428,485,492,504,514,525,534,535,543,549,577,580,591,620,624,630,631,636,639,650,656,666,667,675,685,707,710,718,751,753,760,762,767,792,810,813,819,821,827,828,833,850,863,891,906,921,929,950,970,989],[1,1,2,1,3,2,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,7,1,4,10,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,11,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,4,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: bcash@crchh410.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Brian Cash) Subject: Re: Are atoms real? (was Re: After 2000 years blah blah blah) Nntp-Posting-Host: crchh410 Organization: BNR, Inc. Lines: 15 Petri and Mathew, Your discusion on the "reality" of atoms is interesting, but it would seem that you are verging on the question "Is anything real": that is, since observation is not 100% reliable, how can we say that anything is "real". I don't think this was the intention of the original question, since you now define-out the word "real" so that nothing can meet its criteria. Just a thought. Brian /-|-\ PS Rainbows and Shadows are "real": they are not objects, they are phenomenon. An interesting question would be if atoms are objects (classical) or phenomenon (neo-quantum) or what? talk.religion.misc19["from:","bcash@crchh410.nosubdomain.nodomain","(brian","cash)","subject:","re:","are","atoms","real?","(was","re:","after","2000","years","blah","blah","blah)","nntp-posting-host:","crchh410","organization:","bnr,","inc.","lines:","15","","petri","and","mathew,","","your","discusion","on","the","\"reality\"","of","atoms","is","interesting,","but","it","would","seem","that","you","are","verging","on","the","question","\"is","anything","real\":","that","is,","since","observation","is","not","100%","reliable,","how","can","we","say","that","anything","is","\"real\".","","i","don't","think","this","was","the","intention","of","the","original","question,","since","you","now","define-out","the","word","\"real\"","so","that","nothing","can","meet","its","criteria.","just","a","thought.","","brian","/-|-\\","","ps","","rainbows","and","shadows","are","\"real\":","they","are","not","objects,","they","are","phenomenon.","","an","interesting","question","would","be","if","atoms","are","objects","(classical)","or","phenomenon","(neo-quantum)","or","what?"][0,1000,[1,11,18,36,48,77,78,79,82,83,84,98,114,138,142,147,159,163,170,179,185,187,207,234,237,251,253,257,259,263,281,296,307,313,315,329,333,336,343,368,372,373,378,411,425,426,428,449,459,461,482,495,514,519,551,564,566,579,585,588,606,616,628,635,646,656,665,667,676,710,723,726,735,751,752,760,763,765,784,808,823,833,852,861,884,940,947,950,964,993],[1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,6,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,7,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: arussell@austin.ibm.com (AG Russell) Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip) Originator: arussell@pal500.austin.ibm.com Organization: IBM Austin Lines: 29 In article <1993Apr21.001230.26384@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes: > smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes: > > >Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack > >has 2^80 possible keys. Let's assume a brute-force engine like that > >hypothesized for DES: 1 microsecond per trial, 1 million chips. That's > >10^12 trials per second, or about 38,000 years for 2^80 trials. Well, > >maybe they can get chips running at one trial per nanosecond, and build > >a machine with 10 million chips. Sure -- only 3.8 years for each solution. > > Normally I'd be the last to argue with Steve . . . but shouldn't that > read "3.8 years for *all* solutions". I mean, if we can imagine the > machine that do...sci.crypt4["from:","arussell@austin.ibm.com","(ag","russell)","subject:","re:","off","the","shelf","cheap","des","keyseach","machine","(was:","re:","corporate","acceptance","of","the","wiretap","chip)","originator:","arussell@pal500.austin.ibm.com","organization:","ibm","austin","lines:","29","","","in","article","<1993apr21.001230.26384@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>,","scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us","(steve","simmons)","writes:",">","smb@research.att.com","(steven","bellovin)","writes:",">","",">",">thousands?","","tens","of","thousands?","","do","some","arithmetic,","please...","","skipjack",">",">has","2^80","possible","keys.","","let's","assume","a","brute-force","engine","like","that",">",">hypothesized","for","des:","","1","microsecond","per","trial,","1","million","chips.","","that's",">",">10^12","trials","per","second,","or","about","38,000","years","for","2^80","trials.","","well,",">",">maybe","they","can","get","chips","running","at","one","trial","per","nanosecond,","and","build",">",">a","machine","with","10","million","chips.","","sure","--","only","3.8","years","for","each","solution.",">","",">","normally","i'd","be","the","last","to","argue","with","steve",".",".",".","but","shouldn't","that",">","read","\"3.8","years","for","*all*","solutions\".","","i","mean,","if","we","can","imagine","the",">","machine","that","does","1","trial/nanosecond,","we","can","imagine","the","storage","medium",">","that","could","index","and","archive","it.","","at","the","company","i","worked","for","previously,","i","received","a","file","that","was","des","encryped","and","the","person","that","had","sent","it,","went","on","vaction.","","rather","than","wait","two","weeks","i","set","up","a","straight","frontal","attack","with","one","key","at","a","time.","","it","only","took","two(2)","days","to","crack","the","file.","","no,","i","don't","have","any","faith","in","des.","","a.g.","","","","--","","a.g.","russell","","","dept","a06s","","oltp","section","of","pals","group","","","vm","id","","sc39093","at","ausvm1","email","","arussell@austin.ibm.com","","","","","","","phone","512-838-7953","","","","","","","","tieline","678-7953","these","are","my","views,","on","anyone","else","they","would","look","silly.","free","the","berkeley","4.4"][0,1000,[27,34,36,44,47,48,52,56,60,73,82,83,91,92,94,99,100,103,106,107,108,109,114,117,118,124,125,128,130,138,156,163,170,173,179,187,198,202,209,212,213,214,226,227,234,236,249,254,256,260,261,276,294,299,307,318,329,330,333,334,337,343,349,351,355,358,369,371,372,379,385,386,388,394,400,404,408,426,428,436,437,440,444,445,453,454,455,459,461,466,470,472,477,490,495,497,506,514,518,519,520,521,526,534,536,543,552,586,592,594,601,604,609,615,624,627,640,649,650,654,656,661,665,666,667,668,681,684,696,698,701,703,709,710,712,714,727,744,751,754,756,760,762,764,768,775,777,781,783,801,805,808,813,821,827,829,833,834,840,852,858,862,879,885,895,899,904,916,935,938,939,955,959,961,962,963,966,989,992,993,995],[1,1,5,2,1,2,1,3,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,2,13,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,5,1,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,42,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,9,1,1,1,3,1,1,4,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: europa@tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com (Welch Bryan) Subject: Re: warranty extension by credit company: applies to the phurchase of computer? Distribution: usa Nntp-Posting-Host: tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina Lines: 36 In article <C51Cv1.MLL@cup.hp.com>, staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers) writes: |> HUAYONG YANG (yang@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote: |> : Most, if not all, credit card companies offer to double the warranty up |> : to one year, namely, if you make a purchase by a credit card, you get |> : additional warranty up to one year. Does it apply to the purchase of |> : computers? I wonder if anyone out there has used it. Is there any catch? |> : Thanks in advance. |> |> I am just about to post the results of my big computer purchase. One |> of the key points was the ability to use my American Express card. I |> read the fine print between double warranty policies of Amex and Citibank |> VISA. 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From: James Leo Belliveau <jbc9+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: First Bike?? Organization: Freshman, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu Anyone, I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to put it bluntly, it sucks. I really would like some advice on what would be a good starter bike for me. I do know one thing however, I need to make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is out of the question. I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR 600 F2, GSX-R 750). I know that this may sound kind of crazy considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a fast learner, and in love. Please give me any advice that you think would help me in my search, including places to look or even specific bikes that you want to sell me. Thanks :-) Jamie Belliveau (jbc9@andrew.cmu.edu) rec.motorcycles2["from:","james","leo","belliveau","<jbc9+@andrew.cmu.edu>","subject:","first","bike??","organization:","freshman,","mechanical","engineering,","carnegie","mellon,","pittsburgh,","pa","lines:","17","nntp-posting-host:","andrew.cmu.edu","","","anyone,","","","","","","","i","am","a","serious","motorcycle","enthusiast","without","a","motorcycle,","and","to","put","it","bluntly,","it","sucks.","","i","really","would","like","some","advice","on","what","would","be","a","good","starter","bike","for","me.","","i","do","know","one","thing","however,","i","need","to","make","my","first","bike","a","good","one,","because","buying","a","second","any","time","soon","is","out","of","the","question.","","i","am","specifically","interested","in","racing","bikes,","(cbr","600","f2,","gsx-r","750).","","i","know","that","this","may","sound","kind","of","crazy","considering","that","i've","never","had","a","bike","before,","but","i","am","responsible,","a","fast","learner,","and","in","love.","","please","give","me","any","advice","that","you","think","would","help","me","in","my","search,","including","places","to","look","or","even","specific","bikes","that","you","want","to","sell","me.","","","","","","thanks","",":-)","","","","","","jamie","belliveau","(jbc9@andrew.cmu.edu)"][0,1000,[15,17,30,36,41,44,50,59,71,77,79,82,83,91,107,125,126,127,133,145,157,163,168,170,173,178,183,187,200,206,209,212,230,262,263,281,310,321,329,330,333,343,347,364,372,373,388,400,406,418,420,421,425,428,430,445,453,471,484,485,495,514,525,526,530,534,537,564,585,590,612,644,654,656,657,658,662,666,667,675,700,710,712,725,734,746,751,758,760,778,779,783,784,790,804,841,854,884,905,916,939,954,966,968,984,986,989,991],[1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,3,2,7,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,7,1,2,2,1,1,24,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk (Michael C Davis) Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes? Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK Lines: 62 Robert Anderson (randerso@acad1.sahs.uth.tmc.edu) wrote: : I would like to get your opinions on this: when exactly does an engaged : couple become "married" in God's eyes? Some say that if the two have : publically announced their plans to marry, have made their vows to God, and : are unswervingly committed to one another (I realize this is a subjective : qualifier) they are married/joined in God's sight. The way I read Scripture, a couple becomes married when they are *physically* married, i.e. when they first have sexual intercourse. e.g. the end of Genesis 2 (quoted from memory) ``for this reason, a man shall leave his parents and be joined to his wife, and they will become one flesh'' (Jesus also quotes this scripture referring to marriage). 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From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu Subject: Space Design Movies? Article-I.D.: aurora.1993Apr23.124722.1 Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 11 Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu Is there a few Grasp pictures of space related items, namely Space Station Designs, so you can see the "finished" revolt around.. If you don't know what a grasp prograsm is.. Check out some adult entertainment files and see what I mean.. Or maybe geta few GIF files and create a "slide shows" (I think Cshow can do this).. I liek to be able to see a space shuttle design in a AutoCAD program or to see it revolt around and look at it. == Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked sci.space7["from:","nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu","subject:","space","design","movies?","article-i.d.:","aurora.1993apr23.124722.1","organization:","university","of","alaska","fairbanks","lines:","11","nntp-posting-host:","acad3.alaska.edu","","is","there","a","few","grasp","pictures","of","space","related","items,","namely","space","station","designs,","so","you","can","see","the","\"finished\"","revolt","around..","","if","you","don't","know","what","a","grasp","prograsm","is..","check","out","some","adult","entertainment","files","and","see","what","i","mean..","or","maybe","geta","few","gif","files","and","create","a","\"slide","shows\"","(i","think","cshow","can","do","this)..","","","i","liek","to","be","able","to","see","a","space","shuttle","design","in","a","autocad","program","or","to","see","it","revolt","around","and","look","at","it.","==","michael","adams,","nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu","--","i'm","not","high,","just","jacked"][0,1000,[18,25,28,40,79,83,95,110,170,173,187,189,197,199,207,225,259,265,281,307,324,329,333,334,339,343,361,368,372,388,398,399,400,412,413,425,426,428,445,449,456,461,489,495,496,509,514,515,526,534,551,564,595,603,630,644,651,654,656,661,667,693,710,737,751,756,779,782,791,811,817,830,831,833,864,879,882,902,939,957,980],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,6,2,2,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,4,4,1,1,3,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[0,0,0,0,1,0,0,32,0,0,3,1,2,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0,0,0.023809523809523808,0,0,0.7619047619047619,0,0,0.07142857142857142,0.023809523809523808,0.047619047619047616,0.023809523809523808,0.023809523809523808,0,0,0.023809523809523808,0,0,0]]7
From: bradley@grip.cis.upenn.edu (John Bradley) Subject: XV 3.00 has escaped! Organization: GRASP Lab, University of Pennsylvania Lines: 13 Nntp-Posting-Host: grip.cis.upenn.edu No, not another false alarm, not a "It'll certainly be done by *next* week" message... No, this is the real thing. I repeat, this is *not* a drill! Batten down the hatches, hide the women, and lock up the cows, XV 3.00 has finally escaped. I was cleaning its cage this morning when it overpowered me, broke down the office door, and fled the lab. It was last seen heading in the general direction of export.lcs.mit.edu at nearly 30k per second... If found, it answers to the name of 'contrib/xv-3.00.tar.Z'. Have a blast. I'm off to the vacation capital of the U.S.: Waco, Texas. --jhb comp.windows.x8["from:","bradley@grip.cis.upenn.edu","(john","bradley)","subject:","xv","3.00","has","escaped!","organization:","grasp","lab,","university","of","pennsylvania","lines:","13","nntp-posting-host:","grip.cis.upenn.edu","","no,","not","another","false","alarm,","not","a","\"it'll","certainly","be","done","by","*next*","week\"","message...","","no,","this","is","the","real","thing.","","i","repeat,","this","is","*not*","a","drill!","","batten","down","the","hatches,","hide","the","women,","and","lock","up","the","cows,","xv","3.00","has","finally","escaped.","","i","was","cleaning","its","cage","this","morning","when","it","overpowered","me,","broke","down","the","office","door,","and","fled","the","lab.","","it","was","last","seen","heading","in","the","general","direction","of","export.lcs.mit.edu","at","nearly","30k","per","second...","","if","found,","it","answers","to","the","name","of","'contrib/xv-3.00.tar.z'.","","have","a","blast.","","i'm","off","to","the","vacation","capital","of","the","u.s.:","","waco,","texas.","","--jhb"][0,1000,[4,15,18,21,30,57,65,76,79,109,110,127,128,130,170,176,194,217,223,234,235,248,261,263,273,281,295,296,299,316,324,329,333,343,347,356,372,373,375,384,388,412,414,428,440,445,447,454,462,468,482,495,497,514,567,580,585,595,634,642,656,667,671,686,691,707,710,711,727,737,751,756,759,768,779,807,817,841,878,884,903,928,930,960,984,989],[1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,4,2,1,11,4,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[9,0,2,3,2,2,6,6,6,11,3,3,33,5,3,5,0,2,1,1,0]][1,21,[],[0.08737864077669903,0,0.019417475728155338,0.02912621359223301,0.019417475728155338,0.019417475728155338,0.05825242718446602,0.05825242718446602,0.05825242718446602,0.10679611650485436,0.02912621359223301,0.02912621359223301,0.32038834951456313,0.04854368932038835,0.02912621359223301,0.04854368932038835,0,0.019417475728155338,0.009708737864077669,0.009708737864077669,0]]12
From: khan0095@nova.gmi.edu (Mohammad Razi Khan) Subject: Re: Am I going to Hell? Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI Lines: 32 tbrent@ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy J Brent) writes: >I have stated before that I do not consider myself an atheist, but ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So you believe in the existance of One creator I assume. >definitely do not believe in the christian god. The recent discussion >about atheists and hell, combined with a post to another group (to the >effect of 'you will all go to hell') has me interested in the consensus >as to how a god might judge men. As a catholic, I was told that a jew, >buddhist, etc. might go to heaven, but obviously some people do not >believe this. Even more see atheists and pagans (I assume I would be >lumped into this category) to be hellbound. I know you believe only >god can judge, and I do not ask you to, just for your opinions. 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From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) Subject: Re: Dumb options list Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 21 Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu In a previous article, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) says: >The idea here is to list pointless options. You know, stuff you >(can) get on a car that has no earthly use? 1) a fitting that allows you to generate household current with the engine running, and plug ins in the trunk, engine compartment and cabin. Feel free to add on... Regards, Charles x -- Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time, struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd. --Unknown net.person :-) rec.autos6["from:","aas7@po.cwru.edu","(andrew","a.","spencer)","subject:","re:","dumb","options","list","organization:","case","western","reserve","university,","cleveland,","oh","(usa)","lines:","21","reply-to:","aas7@po.cwru.edu","(andrew","a.","spencer)","nntp-posting-host:","slc5.ins.cwru.edu","","","in","a","previous","article,","parr@acs.ucalgary.ca","(charles","parr)","says:","",">the","idea","here","is","to","list","pointless","options.","you","know,","stuff","you",">(can)","get","on","a","car","that","has","no","earthly","use?","","1)","a","fitting","that","allows","you","to","generate","household","current","with","the","engine","running,","and","plug","ins","in","the","trunk,","engine","compartment","and","cabin.","","feel","free","to","add","on...","","regards,","charles","x","--","","within","the","span","of","the","last","few","weeks","i","have","heard","elements","of","separate","threads","which,","in","that","they","have","been","conjoined","in","time,","struck","together","to","form","a","new","chord","within","my","hollow","and","echoing","gourd.","--unknown","net.person","",":-)"][0,1000,[13,25,29,48,68,73,79,82,99,108,109,115,135,148,159,170,173,174,182,186,217,221,224,281,299,305,312,315,322,328,329,333,335,342,343,344,346,357,372,385,388,394,400,412,413,425,428,432,434,437,441,445,480,484,514,520,535,538,541,555,570,580,582,596,604,608,621,629,650,651,667,701,710,713,718,728,734,751,760,777,788,808,810,821,825,830,845,884,903,913,915,916,928,958,959,977,989],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,9,2,4,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: Mike Diack <mike-d@staff.tc.umn.edu> Subject: Anyone know about DATA I/O device proggers ? X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7F5DAE6E6026550@dialup-slip-1-80.gw.umn.edu> X-Xxdate: Sat, 17 Apr 93 16:03:50 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-slip-1-80.gw.umn.edu Organization: persian cat & carpet co. X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7 Lines: 9 I keep finding these programmers in local junk shops. This may mean that they are indeed junk - but i'd like to hear from anyone else that may have met up with them. The basic device is a "Data I/O 29A universal programmer", and the usual pod is a "LogicPak 303A-Vo4" with a "303A-001" programming tester/ adapter. I'd really like to hear from anyone who knows whether these monsters are worth bothering with. All i want to do is blast PALCE22V10s. - Ideas, folks Mike. sci.electronics10["from:","mike","diack","<mike-d@staff.tc.umn.edu>","subject:","anyone","know","about","data","i/o","device","proggers","?","x-xxmessage-id:","<a7f5dae6e6026550@dialup-slip-1-80.gw.umn.edu>","x-xxdate:","sat,","17","apr","93","16:03:50","gmt","nntp-posting-host:","dialup-slip-1-80.gw.umn.edu","organization:","persian","cat","&","carpet","co.","x-useragent:","nuntius","v1.1.1d7","lines:","9","","i","keep","finding","these","programmers","in","local","junk","shops.","this","may","mean","that","they","are","indeed","junk","-","but","i'd","like","to","hear","from","anyone","","else","that","may","have","met","up","with","them.","the","basic","device","is","a","\"data","i/o","29a","universal","programmer\",","and","the","usual","pod","is","a","","\"logicpak","303a-vo4\"","with","a","\"303a-001\"","programming","tester/","adapter.","i'd","really","like","to","hear","from","anyone","who","knows","whether","these","monsters","are","worth","bothering","with.","all","i","want","to","do","is","blast","palce22v10s.","-","ideas,","folks","mike."][0,1000,[0,1,6,34,48,50,61,71,79,83,97,118,128,137,138,139,158,167,170,172,209,217,224,236,241,244,281,289,299,310,329,330,333,335,354,372,373,388,428,443,445,451,456,461,467,486,489,499,503,514,519,534,539,552,555,557,562,570,594,599,608,650,662,666,667,674,678,695,697,710,712,751,757,760,765,777,779,804,807,842,856,882,909,916,921,922,938,961,968,969,976,977],[1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,2,2,2,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari) Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Lines: 16 Distribution: inet NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tut.fi In <1993Apr16.105809.22218@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes: >I would also like an explanation of this. If anyone can explain >why the SB Pro and LPT 1 can share an IRQ, please do so. I think it's simply because DOS doesn't use the IRQ for anything. OS/2 does, so with that you can't share the IRQ. Anssi -- Anssi Saari s106275@ee.tut.fi Tampere University of Technology Finland, Europe comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","s106275@ee.tut.fi","(anssi","saari)","subject:","re:","soundblaster","irq","and","port","settings","organization:","tampere","university","of","technology,","computing","centre","lines:","16","distribution:","inet","nntp-posting-host:","ee.tut.fi","","in","<1993apr16.105809.22218@walter.cray.com>","huot@cray.com","(tom","huot)","writes:","",">i","would","also","like","an","explanation","of","this.","if","anyone","can","explain",">why","the","sb","pro","and","lpt","1","can","share","an","irq,","please","do","so.","","i","think","it's","simply","because","dos","doesn't","use","the","irq","for","anything.","os/2","does,","so","with","that","you","can't","share","the","irq.","","anssi","","","--","","anssi","saari","s106275@ee.tut.fi","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","tampere","university","of","technology","","finland,","europe"][0,1000,[2,36,67,79,94,96,100,116,119,123,150,163,165,170,173,197,209,224,232,240,248,289,292,299,319,329,330,333,339,343,356,368,372,389,404,412,421,425,428,437,445,461,470,489,514,534,543,564,593,626,633,650,660,667,677,681,707,709,710,743,744,751,752,760,783,792,808,828,833,841,896,909,955,977,995],[1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,24,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: NC vs Hunt (Marine Gay Bashing in Wilmington NC) verdict Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics Lines: 57 In article <1qp5juINNgu5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes: > In article <1993Apr14.135948.3024@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>, > tfarrell@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thomas Farrell) said: > >> A good case? A F**KING GOOD CASE? The defense lawyer asked the victim >> questions like "what kind of sexual perversions do you participate >> in?" and you think he made a good case????? > > Speaking as someone who's only about six weeks and a $6,900 tuition bill > away from becoming an unemployed slob with a law degree, I'd really like > to see a transcript of this trial. I'd especially like to know what > happened immediately after the defense attorney asked that question > (assuming that the reports that he did so are accurate... I'm not > accusing Tom Farrell 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From: ccox@math.nwu.edu (Christopher L. Cox) Subject: Re: Yogi-isms Article-I.D.: news.1993Apr6.213008.1009 Organization: Dept of Math, Northwestern Univ Lines: 13 Nntp-Posting-Host: poincare.math.nwu.edu > > Here's one I remember: (sort of) > Yogi's asleep in a hotel room late at night and gets a call from someone. > After he answers the phone the person at the other end asks if he woke Yogi > up. Yogi answered, "No, the phone did." > > Kevin One of my favorites came back in the seventies when two streakers interupted a game Yogi was at, dashing across the field unclad. Later someone who wasn't present asked Yogi if they were men or women. He replied, "I couldn't tell, they had bags over their heads." rec.sport.baseball3["from:","ccox@math.nwu.edu","(christopher","l.","cox)","subject:","re:","yogi-isms","article-i.d.:","news.1993apr6.213008.1009","organization:","dept","of","math,","northwestern","univ","lines:","13","nntp-posting-host:","poincare.math.nwu.edu","",">","",">","here's","one","i","remember:","(sort","of)",">","yogi's","asleep","in","a","hotel","room","late","at","night","and","gets","a","call","from","someone.",">","after","he","answers","the","phone","the","person","at","the","other","end","asks","if","he","woke","yogi",">","up.","yogi","answered,","\"no,","the","phone","did.\"",">","",">","kevin","","one","of","my","favorites","came","back","in","the","seventies","when","two","streakers","interupted","a","game","yogi","was","at,","dashing","across","the","field","unclad.","","later","someone","who","wasn't","present","asked","yogi","if","they","were","men","or","women.","","he","replied,","\"i","couldn't","tell,","they","had","bags","over","their","heads.\""][0,1000,[6,21,35,44,48,76,77,79,83,104,109,114,117,146,151,161,170,173,179,182,186,187,217,234,235,249,284,310,329,333,343,352,367,372,375,377,388,408,409,413,428,429,430,433,445,453,454,466,493,494,497,514,520,521,538,584,585,605,613,624,667,674,678,688,698,700,710,719,725,750,751,754,756,761,780,808,809,829,861,879,886,916,921,957,962,969,975,997],[1,1,1,2,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: csk@wdl50.wdl.loral.com (Chuck Kuczaj) Subject: Re: MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #18 Organization: Loral Western Development Labs Lines: 26 mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) writes: >Don't you just hate when the speedo and tach on your >bike start to cloud over from all that nasty sunshine? >The detailing tip of the week is to use rubbing compound. >Moisten a rag, apply some rubbing compound and work into the >translucent, previously transparent, material. After a few >minutes of working on the plastic face, the dial, or plastic >face will be clear once more. Will not work for glass. >-- >BTW. I am not responsible for damages incurred when using > the above method. Most models can use the treatment > safely. >============================================================================= >= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733= >= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre = >= (-> 1994 GTS10...rec.motorcycles2["from:","csk@wdl50.wdl.loral.com","(chuck","kuczaj)","subject:","re:","motorcycle","detailing","tip","#18","organization:","loral","western","development","labs","lines:","26","","mbeaving@bnr.ca","(michael","beavington)","writes:","",">don't","you","just","hate","when","the","speedo","and","tach","on","your",">bike","start","to","cloud","over","from","all","that","nasty","sunshine?",">the","detailing","tip","of","the","week","is","to","use","rubbing","compound.","",">moisten","a","rag,","apply","some","rubbing","compound","and","work","into","the",">translucent,","previously","transparent,","material.","after","a","few","",">minutes","of","working","on","the","plastic","face,","the","dial,","or","plastic","",">face","will","be","clear","once","more.","will","not","work","for","glass.","",">--","","",">btw.","","i","am","not","responsible","for","damages","incurred","when","using","",">","","","","","","the","above","method.","","most","models","can","use","the","treatment",">","","","","","","safely.","","",">=============================================================================",">=","the","beav","|mike","beavington|bellnorthernresearch","ottawa,ont,canada|","dod:9733=",">=","seca","400->seca","400->rz350->seca750->suzuki550->seca650turbo->v65sabre","","","","","=",">=","(->","1994","gts1000","...can't","afford","the","'93)","|","","mbeaving@bnr.ca","","","","","","","","","","","","","","=",">=============================================================================","","mcguire's","makes","a","plastic","scratch/removing","compound","and","a","plastic","polishing","compound","which","really","work","great","as","well."][0,1000,[18,35,36,48,55,63,65,69,70,75,76,77,82,86,91,118,122,127,134,147,148,158,162,163,170,173,179,187,189,193,196,260,263,271,281,291,307,310,329,333,335,343,352,356,368,372,374,378,385,388,394,400,420,425,428,433,434,489,514,518,520,527,545,548,549,567,572,597,602,609,612,623,624,656,667,691,694,708,710,711,720,726,751,760,764,770,774,778,789,804,807,808,817,833,843,848,867,891,895,914,921,922,924,934,937,942,943,956,968,969,995,996,998,999],[2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,4,1,4,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,43,1,1,1,2,4,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: belville@athena.mit.edu (Sharon Belville) Subject: Re: God-shaped hole (was Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...") Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 13 In article <Apr.14.03.07.38.1993.5420@athos.rutgers.edu>, johnsd2@rpi.edu (Dan Johnson) writes: |> >Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must |> >do something to ease the pain. |> |> I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know |> who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business? I've seen this verse used to back up this idea: "...He has also set eternity in the hearts of men..." (Ecclesiastes 3:11) -- Sharon Belville soc.religion.christian1["from:","belville@athena.mit.edu","(sharon","belville)","subject:","re:","god-shaped","hole","(was","re:","\"accepting","jeesus","in","your","heart...\")","organization:","massachusetts","institute","of","technology","lines:","13","","in","article","<apr.14.03.07.38.1993.5420@athos.rutgers.edu>,","johnsd2@rpi.edu","(dan","johnson)","writes:","","|>",">those","who","have","an","empty","spot","in","the","god-shaped","hole","in","their","hearts","must","","|>",">do","something","to","ease","the","pain.","|>","","|>","i","have","heard","this","claim","quite","a","few","times.","does","anybody","here","know","|>","who","first","came","up","with","the","\"god-shaped","hole\"","business?","","i've","seen","this","verse","used","to","back","up","this","idea:","","\"...he","has","also","set","eternity","in","the","hearts","of","men...\"","","(ecclesiastes","3:11)","--","sharon","belville"][0,1000,[19,23,36,46,127,128,135,158,159,168,170,173,183,184,199,217,235,241,253,255,262,263,275,288,297,299,300,310,329,343,354,356,357,364,372,373,375,388,393,400,423,428,430,437,445,447,470,514,525,527,534,553,580,588,605,611,629,650,655,662,667,698,710,751,752,777,779,780,792,808,813,817,820,853,859,864,865,907,915,995],[1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,7,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) Subject: Griffin / Office of Exploration: RIP Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 19 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu Any comments on the absorbtion of the Office of Exploration into the Office of Space Sciences and the reassignment of Griffin to the "Chief Engineer" position? Is this just a meaningless administrative shuffle, or does this bode ill for SEI? In my opinion, this seems like a Bad Thing, at least on the surface. Griffin seemed to be someone who was actually interested in getting things done, and who was willing to look an innovative approaches to getting things done faster, better, and cheaper. It's unclear to me whether he will be able to do this at his new position. Does anyone know what his new duties will be? -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Brian Yamauchi Case Western Reserve University yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu Departmen...sci.space7["from:","yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu","(brian","yamauchi)","subject:","griffin","/","office","of","exploration:","rip","organization:","case","western","reserve","university","lines:","19","distribution:","world","nntp-posting-host:","yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu","","any","comments","on","the","absorbtion","of","the","office","of","exploration","into","the","office","of","space","sciences","and","the","reassignment","of","griffin","to","the","\"chief","engineer\"","position?","","is","this","just","a","meaningless","administrative","shuffle,","or","does","this","bode","ill","for","sei?","","in","my","opinion,","this","seems","like","a","bad","thing,","at","least","on","the","surface.","griffin","seemed","to","be","someone","who","was","actually","interested","in","getting","things","done,","and","who","was","willing","to","look","an","innovative","approaches","to","getting","things","done","faster,","better,","and","cheaper.","","it's","unclear","to","me","whether","he","will","be","able","to","do","this","at","his","new","position.","","does","anyone","know","what","his","new","duties","will","be?","--","_______________________________________________________________________________","","brian","yamauchi","","","case","western","reserve","university","yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu","department","of","computer","engineering","and","science","_______________________________________________________________________________"][0,1000,[6,18,25,36,60,79,82,86,91,107,108,115,128,132,144,148,150,151,153,170,173,187,207,209,212,217,230,234,254,281,284,294,299,306,307,330,332,333,342,343,369,372,373,380,388,412,414,417,420,428,437,445,447,471,496,497,501,512,514,520,526,534,537,577,616,627,636,650,656,667,672,683,698,707,710,726,743,750,751,752,756,757,761,779,803,807,830,842,868,881,885,891,897,904,916,928,935,937,939,984,997],[1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,6,1,8,4,2,6,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) Subject: My predictions Nntp-Posting-Host: gibson.cc.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Lines: 79 Smythe Division --------------- Vancouver vs. Winnipeg - Jets in 7 The Jets have played the Canucks tough the last three games. Everyone is healthy for the Jets. I'm biased. :) Calgary vs. Los Angeles - Flames in 6 From what I have seen, the Kings have looked flat lately. I just can't see them getting by the Flames. Final- Jets in 6. The Jets haven't lost to the Flames in '93. They will, but it will be a close series that will come down to how well Roberts has recovered. I don't think he'll be 100%, and while it will help, it won't be enough. Norris Division --------------- Chicago vs. St. Louis/Minnesota Chicago in 6 against the Blues, 7 against the Stars. Detroit vs. Toronto - Wings in 6. The Wings should be able to shutdown Gilmour and Andreychuk. 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From: artmel@well.sf.ca.us (Arthur Melnick) Subject: Some questions regarding Big Brother (Clipper) Summary: Some thoughts and questions regarding clipper Keywords: clipper Nntp-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 23 In previous postings by Hellman, Bellovin, etal it was reported the Big Brother (Clipper) chip will encrypt plaintext in 64 bit blocks as is done with DES. The users key K which can be derived from RSA, Diffy-Hellman, etc. is used to encrypt plaintext M and is then used to form a "three part message". This three part message consists of E[M; K], K encrypted with some other key, and the chip serial number. This three part message is then encrypted by still another key. My question is: What is a message? For example, say we are dealing with an encrypted digitized voice application. The speech waveform is sampled and digitized and then some number of samples are grouped into a 64 bit block. T...sci.crypt4["from:","artmel@well.sf.ca.us","(arthur","melnick)","subject:","some","questions","regarding","big","brother","(clipper)","summary:","some","thoughts","and","questions","regarding","clipper","keywords:","clipper","nntp-posting-host:","well.sf.ca.us","organization:","the","whole","earth","'lectronic","link,","sausalito,","ca","lines:","23","","","","","","","","in","previous","postings","by","hellman,","bellovin,","etal","it","was","reported","the","big","brother","(clipper)","chip","will","encrypt","plaintext","in","64","bit","blocks","as","is","done","with","des.","","the","users","key","k","which","can","be","derived","from","rsa,","diffy-hellman,","etc.","is","used","to","encrypt","plaintext","m","and","is","then","used","to","form","a","\"three","part","message\".","","","","","","this","three","part","message","consists","of","e[m;","k],","k","encrypted","with","some","other","key,","and","the","chip","serial","number.","","this","three","part","message","is","then","encrypted","by","still","another","key.","","","","","","my","question","is:","what","is","a","message?","","","","","","for","example,","say","we","are","dealing","with","an","encrypted","digitized","voice","application.","","the","speech","waveform","is","sampled","and","digitized","and","then","some","number","of","samples","are","grouped","into","a","64","bit","block.","this","block","is","then","encrypted","and","transmitted","over","a","non-secure","communications","link.","","","","","","where","is","the","three","part","message?","","is","something","appended","to","each","64","bit","block?","","is","a","header","sent","at","the","beginning","of","the","session?","","","","","","if","the","header","is","sent","at","the","beginning","of","the","session,","how","do","they","insure","the","equipment","manufacturer","using","the","chip","does","just","that?","","can","just","anyone","manufacture","products","using","the","chip?","is","a","facility","clearance","required","to","manufacture?","","","","","","any","ideas?"][0,1000,[0,20,32,34,36,48,49,65,67,79,81,91,117,133,136,138,139,166,170,182,209,217,221,223,229,234,236,237,249,252,259,281,286,287,307,333,343,349,352,353,354,355,361,368,372,373,380,381,388,400,420,428,445,446,450,456,463,470,475,495,500,503,511,512,514,517,520,525,526,534,553,561,571,572,578,583,589,595,597,598,605,621,624,625,638,648,650,656,657,659,667,674,678,698,704,707,710,713,720,727,736,740,742,743,751,752,755,756,779,798,800,808,810,813,833,834,843,851,852,853,869,880,885,891,899,903,908,916,920,921,927,947,959,965,977,981,993,995,996],[2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,7,1,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,12,1,1,2,6,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,43,3,1,4,4,4,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,14,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[1,2,0,0,9,6,0,3,3,14,4,4,1,1,0,6,11,9,4,0,0]][1,21,[],[0.01282051282051282,0.02564102564102564,0,0,0.11538461538461539,0.07692307692307693,0,0.038461538461538464,0.038461538461538464,0.1794871794871795,0.05128205128205128,0.05128205128205128,0.01282051282051282,0.01282051282051282,0,0.07692307692307693,0.14102564102564102,0.11538461538461539,0.05128205128205128,0,0]]9
From: thomsonal@cpva.saic.com Subject: Cosmos 2238: an EORSAT Article-I.D.: cpva.15337.2bc16ada Organization: Science Applications Int'l Corp./San Diego Lines: 48 >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 15:40:47 GMT >I need as much information about Cosmos 2238 and its rocket fragment (1993- >018B) as possible. Both its purpose, launch date, location, in short, >EVERYTHING! Can you help? >-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ocean Reconnaissance Launch Surprises West Space News, April 5-11, 1993, p.2 [Excerpts] Russia launched its first ocean reconnaissance satellite in 26 months March 30, confounding Western analysts who had proclaimed the program dead. The Itar-TASS news agency announced the launch of Cosmos 2238 from Plesetsk Cosmodrome, but provided little description of the payload's mission. 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From: Peter.vanderveen@visser.el.wau.nl (Peter van der Veen) Subject: To yhe one who wants fonts in POV/POLYRAY/VIVID Lines: 28 Organization: Wageningen Agricultural University X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0 To everyone who wants fonts in Vivid/POV/Polyray. The Borland BGI font converter is VVFONT18.ZIP. This program can be found on FTP.INFORMATIK.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE directory pub/dkbtrace/utils. Also WUARCHIVE has mirrored this site (directory graphics/graphics/mirrors/ ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/pub/dkbtrace/utils. There are more nice utilities present in this directory. A new version of Polyray 1.6 (for those asked for it) can be found on the same sites but in the directory INCOMING instead of UTILS (PLY16386). Also in this directory POVSHELL and PV3DV060 could be found. Have a nive raytrace time. Peter /*---------*\*/*-------------------------------------------*\ *| ____/| *|* PETER.VANDERVEEN@VISSER.EL.WAU.NL |* *| \ o.O| *|* Department of Genetics ...comp.graphics13["from:","peter.vanderveen@visser.el.wau.nl","","(peter","van","der","veen)","subject:","to","yhe","one","who","wants","fonts","in","pov/polyray/vivid","lines:","28","organization:","wageningen","agricultural","university","x-newsreader:","ftpnuz","(dos)","v1.0","","to","everyone","who","wants","fonts","in","vivid/pov/polyray.","the","borland","bgi","font","converter","is","vvfont18.zip.","this","program","can","be","found","on","ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de","directory","pub/dkbtrace/utils.","also","wuarchive","has","mirrored","this","site","(directory","graphics/graphics/mirrors/","ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/pub/dkbtrace/utils.","there","are","more","nice","utilities","present","in","this","directory.","a","new","version","of","polyray","1.6","(for","those","asked","for","it)","can","be","found","on","the","","same","sites","but","in","the","directory","incoming","instead","of","utils","(ply16386).","also","in","this","directory","povshell","and","pv3dv060","could","be","found.","have","a","nive","raytrace","time.","peter","","","/*---------*\\*/*-------------------------------------------*\\","","*|","","____/|","","*|*","","","","peter.vanderveen@visser.el.wau.nl","","","","","","","|*","","*|","","\\","o.o|","","*|*","","","","department","of","genetics","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|*","","*|","","","=(_)=","","*|*","","","","agricultural","university","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|*","","*|","","","","","u","","","","*|*","","","","wageningen,","the","netherlands","","","","","","","","","","","","","|*","","\\*---------*/*\\*-------------------------------------------*/"][0,1000,[4,25,36,44,46,51,62,77,79,82,83,84,110,115,122,138,159,167,170,176,185,213,217,260,281,297,299,307,319,322,332,333,343,354,370,372,373,374,378,388,400,412,417,418,428,429,432,445,465,486,501,514,520,522,526,545,574,580,600,602,608,615,617,629,644,656,660,667,710,734,740,751,773,785,792,809,810,831,833,840,848,860,863,872,891,893,897,922,955,967,992,995,998],[2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,4,2,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,87,4,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,4,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,3]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) Subject: Re: Clinton wants National ID card, aka USSR-style "Internal Passport" Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 21 In article <C5JIF8.I4n@boi.hp.com> slack@boi.hp.com (David Slack) writes: >The idea of the card is bull in and of its self, but I'm curious to know, do >they plan on making it a requirement to *always* have it on you, or is it >only going to be required to be *presented* when trying to ge medical aid? This, at least, has already been determined: The Blue Cross medical coverage for all federal employees is a good model for a future national system. To get emergency medical care, anyone so insured must always carry their Blue Cross card. Before entering a hospital, you must notify Blue Cross, or they will refuse to pay your bills. In an emergency, where you must be treated before notifying them, you must inform them within 24 hours or (if you are unable to do so for m...talk.politics.guns16["from:","fcrary@ucsu.colorado.edu","(frank","crary)","subject:","re:","clinton","wants","national","id","card,","aka","ussr-style","\"internal","passport\"","nntp-posting-host:","ucsu.colorado.edu","organization:","university","of","colorado,","boulder","lines:","21","","in","article","<c5jif8.i4n@boi.hp.com>","slack@boi.hp.com","(david","slack)","writes:",">the","idea","of","the","card","is","bull","in","and","of","its","self,","but","i'm","curious","to","know,","do","",">they","plan","on","making","it","a","requirement","to","*always*","have","it","on","you,","or","is","it","",">only","going","to","be","required","to","be","*presented*","when","trying","to","ge","medical","aid?","","this,","at","least,","has","already","been","determined:","the","blue","cross","medical","coverage","for","all","federal","employees","is","a","good","model","for","a","future","national","system.","to","get","emergency","medical","care,","anyone","so","insured","must","always","carry","their","blue","cross","card.","before","entering","a","hospital,","you","must","notify","blue","cross,","or","they","will","refuse","to","pay","your","bills.","","in","an","emergency,","where","you","must","be","treated","before","notifying","them,","","you","must","inform","them","within","24","hours","or","(if","you","are","unable","to","do","so","for","medical","reasons)","the","hospital","must.","failing","to","do","so","within","24","hours","means","they","will","not","cover","the","hospitalization.","in","you","need","your","card","to","notify","them","(and","without","the","card,","the","hospital","certainly","wouldn't","know","they","had","to.)","therefore,","you","are","required","to","carry","the","card","at","all","times,","or","do","without","emergency","medical","coverage.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","frank","crary","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","cu","boulder"][0,1000,[6,13,18,23,26,31,32,36,37,48,55,57,58,61,62,76,79,82,83,99,101,113,123,138,139,141,144,145,153,159,168,170,184,187,206,209,213,227,235,245,254,257,263,265,269,281,296,299,308,315,326,333,335,341,343,350,368,372,388,394,401,412,413,420,425,428,445,453,470,472,477,493,495,514,534,535,537,539,556,563,570,574,580,590,612,613,628,653,656,658,666,667,674,680,683,696,697,702,706,707,710,711,713,721,734,737,751,752,756,768,775,777,779,781,783,786,800,808,857,869,878,884,903,910,924,930,943,945,950,958,959,961,968,995,996],[1,1,1,4,1,1,2,3,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,3,1,1,2,1,4,1,5,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,3,105,12,1,1,3,1,2,6,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,4,1,1,2,2,2,2,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: After all, Armenians exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people there. Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 297 In article <C5y56o.A62@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hovig@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hovig Heghinian) writes: >article. I have no partisan interests --- I would just like to know >what conversations between TerPetrosyan and Demirel sound like. =) Very simple. "X-Soviet Armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide against 2.5 million Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations to the Turks and Kurds." After all, your criminal grandparents exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914 and 1920. <C5yyBt.5zo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hovig@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hovig Heghinian) >To which I say: >Hear, hear. Motion seconded. You must be a new 'Arromdian'. You are counting on ASALA/SDPA/ARF crooks and criminals to prove something for you? No wonder you are in such a mess. 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From: tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias) Subject: Re: Comments on a 1984 Honda Interceptor 1000? Nntp-Posting-Host: hydra.convex.com Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of CONVEX. Lines: 27 In article <19APR93.15421177@skyfox> howp@skyfox writes: >Hi. > I am considering the purchase of a 1984 Honda 1000cc Interceptor for >$2095 CDN (about $1676 US). I don't know the mileage on this bike, but from >the picture in the 'RV Trader' magazine, it looks to be in good shape. >Can anybody enlighten me as to whether this is a good purchase? Is it a >good bike? This will be my first bike. (I realize that, for a beginner, >1000cc is considered too be a bit too much bike. I have heard from friends >that were once beginners that if they had to start all over again that they >would have started...rec.motorcycles2["from:","tobias@convex.com","(allen","tobias)","subject:","re:","comments","on","a","1984","honda","interceptor","1000?","nntp-posting-host:","hydra.convex.com","organization:","convex","computer","corporation,","richardson,","tx.,","usa","x-disclaimer:","this","message","was","written","by","a","user","at","convex","computer","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","corp.","the","opinions","expressed","are","those","of","the","user","and","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","not","necessarily","those","of","convex.","lines:","27","","in","article","<19apr93.15421177@skyfox>","howp@skyfox","writes:",">hi.",">","","","","","i","am","considering","the","purchase","of","a","1984","honda","1000cc","interceptor","for",">$2095","cdn","(about","$1676","us).","","i","don't","know","the","mileage","on","this","bike,","but","from",">the","picture","in","the","'rv","trader'","magazine,","it","looks","to","be","in","good","shape.",">can","anybody","enlighten","me","as","to","whether","this","is","a","good","purchase?","","is","it","a","",">good","bike?","","this","will","be","my","first","bike.","","(i","realize","that,","for","a","beginner,",">1000cc","is","considered","too","be","a","bit","too","much","bike.","","i","have","heard","from","friends",">that","were","once","beginners","that","if","they","had","to","start","all","over","again","that","they",">would","have","started","with","a","bigger","bike.","","one","just","has","to","be","careful","and","not",">drive","outside","their","skill","level.)","",">","","","","","i","had","considered","(and","posted","about","two","weeks","ago)","the","purchase","of","1982",">600cc","yamaha","seca","turbo","with","33000","km,","but","i","am","a","little","wary","now","about","the",">prospect","of","having","to","deal","with","a","turbo","(both","on","the","road","and","in","the","shop).","","i",">may","still","consider","this","bike","(the","price","dropped","from","$1300","to","$1100","cdn),","but",">the","honda","seems","to","be","a","good","bike.","",">",">","","","","","comments?",">","","one","word","\"heavy\".","it","steers","heavy,","turns","require","alot","of","effort.","hard","to","get","access","to","the","large","v-4","motor.","weak/small","front","forks","with","anti-dive","gizmos!","","at"][0,1000,[3,18,19,28,32,33,36,44,48,49,58,59,70,78,79,82,83,93,98,103,112,113,116,117,118,125,138,140,146,147,150,151,160,161,167,168,170,173,177,179,183,192,193,223,224,228,229,233,234,235,258,274,275,281,283,287,297,299,305,307,312,318,329,333,335,343,352,357,372,373,380,383,388,391,399,408,413,417,420,426,428,433,441,442,445,446,453,457,470,471,487,488,495,497,500,502,514,519,524,539,542,544,549,572,577,580,586,589,590,591,599,600,602,610,631,637,644,647,650,656,664,667,671,675,689,692,701,710,721,725,732,740,744,751,756,760,764,777,779,782,783,784,795,800,805,806,807,808,810,825,846,847,850,864,871,882,883,886,899,916,921,939,940,950,959,962,968,981,995,996],[1,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,12,3,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,6,4,2,6,1,1,53,6,2,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,4,5,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,10,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
Subject: Re: Exploding TV! From: xhan@uceng.uc.edu (Xiaoping Han) Distribution: usa Organization: University of Cincinnati Lines: 12 In article <1qk4hj$qos@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> prasad@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Prasad Ramakrishna) writes: >... Why would the picture tube explode or even smoke? It's not the picture tube. More likely the flyback. Emerson? can't admire. Han >Prasad >prasadr@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu > sci.electronics10["subject:","re:","exploding","tv!","from:","xhan@uceng.uc.edu","(xiaoping","han)","distribution:","usa","organization:","university","of","cincinnati","lines:","12","","in","article","<1qk4hj$qos@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>","prasad@vtaix.cc.vt.edu","(prasad","ramakrishna)","writes:","",">...","why","would","the","picture","tube","explode","or","even","smoke?","","it's","not","the","picture","tube.","more","likely","the","flyback.","emerson?","can't","admire.","han","",">prasad",">prasadr@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu",">"][0,1000,[0,18,135,163,179,181,187,201,204,240,248,299,324,333,343,352,372,376,406,412,428,436,437,445,463,470,514,530,574,577,629,636,667,675,710,748,751,782,792,808,833,883,936,970,973,995,997],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) Subject: Re: div. and conf. names Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON Distribution: na Lines: 50 In <1993Apr19.191126.27651@newshub.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes: >However, that aside, the real question is whether you like the idea of >changing the names based on the reasons given for it (making it easier for >the 'casual fan'), or whether you like the idea of unique divisional names >based on individuals who do deserve the honour. IMO, the latter is a nice >and unique touch that differs from other sports. In addition, I do not >think that changing divisional names will have an effect on the number of >people that are interested in hockey, so it's a pointless exercise anyway. There are several problems with the way the game is being presented to the fans. I feel that geographical names would enhance regional loyalties more than names honouring personages. 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From: ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Ravi Puvvala) Subject: $13,500 Mazda 626 DX (with Air, AM/FM) Good Deal? Nntp-Posting-Host: elvis.dev.cdx.mot.com Reply-To: ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Ravi Puvvala) Organization: Motorola Codex Lines: 12 Hi Netters I want to know if 13500 (w/o tax) is a good deal for 1993 Mazda 626 DX How is the performance review so far on Mazda 626. Is it a good buy? Please reply to me as I don't read this group often. Thanks In advance Ravi -- Ravi Kiran Puvvala | "The purpose of education is not merely, ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com | the assimilation of facts but blow all Motorola Codex, Boston MA | the money" - Ravi Puvvala ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.autos6["from:","ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com","(ravi","puvvala)","subject:","$13,500","mazda","626","dx","(with","air,","am/fm)","good","deal?","nntp-posting-host:","elvis.dev.cdx.mot.com","reply-to:","ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com","(ravi","puvvala)","organization:","motorola","codex","lines:","12","","hi","netters","","i","want","to","know","if","13500","(w/o","tax)","is","a","good","deal","for","1993","mazda","626","dx","how","is","the","performance","review","so","far","on","mazda","626.","is","it","a","good","buy?","please","reply","to","me","as","i","don't","read","this","group","often.","","thanks","in","advance","ravi","--","ravi","kiran","puvvala","","|","\"the","purpose","of","education","is","not","merely,","","ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com","|","","the","assimilation","of","facts","but","blow","all","","motorola","codex,","boston","","ma","","|","","the","money\"","-","ravi","puvvala","----------------------------------------------------------------------------"][0,1000,[15,18,36,45,52,55,57,79,82,83,145,168,169,170,173,204,216,228,230,237,243,245,259,277,281,288,289,302,329,330,343,344,358,367,368,372,373,388,399,426,428,429,433,445,471,485,486,488,495,499,506,508,511,514,515,517,533,572,579,610,619,650,667,690,694,710,712,720,751,759,779,813,834,841,941,960,968,970,977],[2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,10,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,3,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard) Subject: Re: quality control in medicine Summary: Kaiser has been doing it for a while Article-I.D.: pegasus.1993Apr22.221508.10196 Organization: Pegasus, Honolulu Lines: 14 In article <93108.003258U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> <U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: >Does anybody know of any information regarding the implementaion of total > quality management, quality control, quality assurance in the delivery of > health care service. I would appreciate any information. If there is enough >interest, I will post the responses. > Thank You > Abhin Singla MS BioE, MBA, MD > President AC Medcomp Inc Dr Singla, you might contact Kaiser Health Plan either in the area closest to you or at the central office in Oakland CA. We have been doing QA, QoS, concurrent UR, and TQM for some time now in the Hawaii Region, and I suspect it is nationwide in the system. Len Howard MD sci.med5["from:","tas@pegasus.com","(len","howard)","subject:","re:","quality","control","in","medicine","summary:","kaiser","has","been","doing","it","for","a","while","article-i.d.:","pegasus.1993apr22.221508.10196","organization:","pegasus,","","honolulu","lines:","14","","in","article","<93108.003258u19250@uicvm.uic.edu>","<u19250@uicvm.uic.edu>","writes:",">does","anybody","know","of","any","information","regarding","the","implementaion","of","total",">","quality","management,","quality","control,","quality","assurance","in","the","delivery","of",">","health","care","service.","","i","would","appreciate","any","information.","","if","there","is","enough",">interest,","i","will","post","the","responses.",">","","","","","","","","thank","you",">","","","","","","","","abhin","singla","ms","bioe,","mba,","md",">","","","","","","","","president","ac","medcomp","inc","","dr","singla,","you","might","contact","kaiser","health","plan","either","in","the","area","closest","to","you","or","at","the","central","office","in","oakland","ca.","","we","have","been","doing","qa,","qos,","concurrent","ur,","and","tqm","for","some","time","now","in","the","hawaii","region,","and","i","suspect","it","is","nationwide","in","the","system.","len","howard","md"][0,1000,[10,16,26,36,38,39,62,69,76,79,83,91,98,100,115,123,124,128,138,145,149,157,163,170,179,182,187,203,221,231,275,281,299,310,320,322,329,333,343,346,372,377,388,392,400,414,420,425,428,429,441,445,470,479,495,512,514,535,540,560,571,572,580,584,596,616,645,649,653,667,696,697,698,707,710,719,729,751,756,779,808,823,831,840,848,870,874,880,913,924,929,940,953,955,964,973,978,985,993,995],[1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,5,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,2,3,1,27,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,7,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,5,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: jmeritt@mental.MITRE.ORG (Jim Meritt - System Admin) Subject: Keep Firm the foundations! Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. talk.religion.misc19["from:","jmeritt@mental.mitre.org","(jim","meritt","-","system","admin)","subject:","keep","firm","the","foundations!","organization:","utexas","mail-to-news","gateway","lines:","6","nntp-posting-host:","cs.utexas.edu","","job","26:7","","he","stretcheth","out","the","north","over","the","empty","","place,","","and","hangeth","the","earth","upon","nothing.","","job","38:4","","where","wast","thou","when","i","","laid","","the","","foundations","","of","","the","earth?","declare,","if","thou","hast","understanding."][0,1000,[4,31,65,76,79,139,170,184,199,220,270,303,311,329,333,343,352,372,407,428,470,499,514,576,581,594,603,606,639,643,654,661,667,675,688,703,710,735,751,774,793,803,815,865,894,901,958,979,997],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante) Subject: Re: RIM NEEDED Keywords: Either do it, or keep you opinions to yourself. Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: north1.acpub.duke.edu In article <1993Apr14.210922.20916@news.columbia.edu> twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang) writes: >In article <13177@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante)writes: >>In article <1993Apr13.122643.3180@walter.bellcore.com> pgoudas@gomer.bellcore.com (Paul Goudas) writes: >>> Also, is there a law or something that requires NYC to keep it's >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>street empty of potholes greater than a certain depth? I (rather my bike) >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA WHAHwuhuhahuah!!!! >> >>That's a good one!! Really, stop! I can't breathe!! > > Bite your tongue. Those of us who ACTUALLY RIDE in NYC on a >daily basis could not live without those Potholes. 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From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.) Subject: Re: Anti-Viral Herbs Article-I.D.: news.C51o24.8A4 Distribution: na Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 38 kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) writes: >Unfortunately it was rather poorly researched, and would not be available >today if it were just invented. Keep in mind however that those were >the days when a bottle of Coca Cola really did contain coca extract and >a certain amount of active cocaine. Times have changed, and our attitudes >need to change with them. Well, yes. That was a part of my point. Aspirin has its problems, but in some situations it is useful. Ditto stuff like licorice root. Taking anything as a drug for theraputic purposes implicitly carries the idea of taking a dose where the benefits are not exceeded by any unwanted, additional effects. Taking any drug when the potential ill-effects are not known is a risk assumed by the parties involved, and it may be that in a given situation 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From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing Organization: Trivializers R Us Lines: 16 In <1pqu12$pmu@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au> johnh@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (John Haddy) writes: >In article <C513wI.G5A@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes: >|> Instead, use a quartz crystal and divide its frequency by 2 40 times >|> or something like that. >... Wouldn't a crystal be affected by cold? My gut feeling is that, as a >mechanically resonating device, extreme cold is likely to affect the >compliance (?terminology?) of the quartz, and hence its resonant frequency. Yes, but in a fairly reproducible way. -40 is only a smidgen of the distance to absolute zero. And in any case you're going to have to borrow freezer space from a bio lab or someone to test/calibrate this darling anyway. Btw, you're probably going to want those big capacitors you found to fire the solenoid -- High current drain on frozen batteries can be an ugly thing. p...sci.electronics10["from:","pw@panix.com","(paul","wallich)","subject:","re:","help","with","ultra-long","timing","organization:","trivializers","r","us","lines:","16","","in","<1pqu12$pmu@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>","johnh@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au","(john","haddy)","writes:",">in","article","<c513wi.g5a@athena.cs.uga.edu>,","mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu","(michael","covington)","writes:",">|>","instead,","use","a","quartz","crystal","and","divide","its","frequency","by","2","40","times",">|>","or","something","like","that.",">...","wouldn't","a","crystal","be","affected","by","cold?","my","gut","feeling","is","that,","as","a",">mechanically","resonating","device,","extreme","cold","is","likely","to","affect","the",">compliance","(?terminology?)","of","the","quartz,","and","hence","its","resonant","frequency.","","","yes,","but","in","a","fairly","reproducible","way.","-40","is","only","a","smidgen","of","the","distance","to","absolute","zero.","and","in","any","case","you're","going","to","have","to","borrow","freezer","space","from","a","bio","lab","or","someone","to","test/calibrate","this","darling","anyway.","btw,","you're","probably","going","to","want","those","big","capacitors","you","found","to","fire","the","solenoid","--","high","current","drain","on","frozen","batteries","can","be","an","ugly","thing.","","paul"][0,1000,[1,2,36,64,82,83,85,91,99,110,116,123,152,155,162,170,173,181,187,190,191,207,208,209,223,224,255,262,267,269,281,296,297,299,306,330,333,341,342,343,347,372,373,388,392,394,417,421,425,428,435,445,451,458,470,488,489,491,493,499,514,516,532,536,549,551,553,570,572,577,578,584,598,600,619,633,639,647,650,656,667,674,690,691,709,710,712,721,732,735,748,749,750,751,752,803,804,805,807,808,815,831,833,842,872,876,895,897,899,916,920,921,925,930,936,942,955,960,989,994,995,997],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,6,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,4,1,7,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: wcd82671@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (daniel warren c) Subject: Splitfire Plugs... Kinda Offical... Summary: Supposed "Higher power output". Distribution: rec.motorcycles Keywords: Using Splitfire plugs for performance. Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 54 Yo, Whaz up!!! Earlier, I was reading on the net about using Splitfire plugs. One guy was thinking about it and almost everybody shot him to hell. Well, I saw one think that someone said about "Show me a team that used Split- fires...." Well, here's some additional insight and some theories about splitfire plugs and how they boost us as oppossed to cages. Splitfires were originally made to burn fuel more efficiently and increased power for the 4x4 cages. Well, for these guys, splitfires increased performance by increasing TORQUE. They weren't focusing on horsepower numbers. Now how does this related to us high performance pilots? Well, that depends. 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From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) Subject: Re: Immotile Cilia Syndrome Article-I.D.: pitt.19423 Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 31 In article <1993Mar26.213522.26224@ncsu.edu> andrea@unity.ncsu.edu (Andrea M Free-Kwiatkowski) writes: >I would like to know if there is any new information out there about the >subject or any new studies being conducted. I am confident in my >pediatrician and her communication with the people in Chapel Hill, but >since this is a life-long disorder and genetically transferred I would >like keep current. I do realize that since this is a relatively new >disorder (first documented in 1974 in a fertility clinic in Scandanavia) >and is therefore "controversial". I do not know a lot about this, except from seeing one patient with "Kartagener's syndrome", which is a form of immotile cilia syndrome in which there is situs inversus, bronchiectasis, and chronic infections. 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From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes) Subject: Re: Serbian genocide Work of God? Lines: 89 note: i am not the original poster, i am just answering because i think this is important. In article <May.5.02.50.17.1993.28624@athos.rutgers.edu> db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes: >revdak@netcom.com writes: [evil result of human sinfulness, rather than the will of God] >In a certain sense yes. But in the sense that God allows evil to >happen, when obviously (He being God) He could have not had it happen, >does in a certain sense mean that He wills it to happen. God does not >condone evil, but instead uses it for good, as you say, however, what >God desires, must be seperated from what actually happens. For example, >"God desires that all should be saved" (1 Timothy 2.4), however, it is >quite obvious that nowhere near all are saved. Was God's will thwarted? > No, because His will cannot be escaped, for even when it appears that >it is your will doing something, 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From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) Subject: Re: Boom! Dog attack! Nntp-Posting-Host: bmerh824 Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design Lines: 28 In article <Clarke.5.734991574@bdrc.bd.com>, Clarke@bdrc.bd.com (Richard Clarke) writes: |> final trajectory. Too bad it didn't notice the car approaching at 50+mph .... |> from the other direction. |> |> I got a closeup view of the our poor canine friend's noggin careening off |> the front bumper, smacking the asphalt, and getting runover by the front |> tire. It managed a pretty good yelp, just before impact. (peripheral |> imminent doom?) I guess the driver didn't see me or they probably would have |> swerved into my lane. The squeegeed pup actually got up and headed back |> home, but I haven't seen it since. |> Same thing to me. Everyday the same dog would chase my bicycle. The owners thought it was cute. Even after I got the moto, the stupid dog would do the same thing. Then one day...rec.motorcycles2["from:","mbeaving@bnr.ca","(michael","beavington)","subject:","re:","boom!","dog","attack!","nntp-posting-host:","bmerh824","reply-to:","mbeaving@bnr.ca","organization:","bnr","ottawa,","dms","software","design","lines:","28","","in","article","<clarke.5.734991574@bdrc.bd.com>,","clarke@bdrc.bd.com","(richard","clarke)","writes:","|>","final","trajectory.","too","bad","it","didn't","notice","the","car","approaching","at","50+mph","","","","","","....","|>","from","the","other","direction.","|>","","|>","i","got","a","closeup","view","of","the","our","poor","canine","friend's","noggin","careening","off","","|>","the","front","bumper,","smacking","the","asphalt,","and","getting","runover","by","the","front","","|>","tire.","it","managed","a","pretty","good","yelp,","just","before","impact.","(peripheral","","|>","imminent","doom?)","i","guess","the","driver","didn't","see","me","or","they","probably","would","have","","|>","swerved","into","my","lane.","the","squeegeed","pup","actually","got","up","and","headed","back","","|>","home,","but","i","haven't","seen","it","since.","","|>","","","same","thing","to","me.","","everyday","the","same","dog","would","chase","my","bicycle.","the","owners","thought","it","was","cute.","","even","after","i","got","the","moto,","the","stupid","dog","would","do","the","same","thing.","","then","one","day,","i","was","coming","home","in","the","opposite","lane...the","fluff","with","teeth","ran","to","get","me","and","played","momentum","sharing","with","a","73","dodge","pick.","the","owners","tried","to","blame","me","for","driving","down","street","when","i","did.","i","lived","in","a","wierd","town.","","","=============================================================================","=","the","beav","|mike","beavington|bellnorthernresearch","ottawa,ont,canada|","dod:9733=","=","seca","400->seca","400->rz350->seca750->suzuki550->seca650turbo->v65sabre","","","","","=","=","(->","1994","gts1000","...can't","afford","the","'93)","|","","mbeaving@bnr.ca","","","","","","","","","","","","","","=","=","parking","spaces?","we","don't","need","no","steenkin'","parking","spaces!","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","=","============================================================================="][0,1000,[0,7,20,24,36,44,48,65,66,70,71,76,77,79,83,86,90,91,92,93,103,118,121,127,128,132,134,135,138,140,159,163,168,170,183,186,187,189,199,216,217,219,223,231,234,236,237,241,244,269,272,273,293,295,297,299,303,305,307,312,318,326,329,333,343,345,346,365,372,377,381,383,388,406,426,428,429,430,433,437,445,446,447,469,470,471,486,495,497,505,514,515,527,532,533,534,537,545,548,549,558,567,573,574,585,593,597,612,619,624,636,639,644,650,656,658,667,674,675,684,694,699,704,707,710,711,726,738,739,748,751,753,756,758,774,778,803,807,808,817,818,867,891,904,916,921,934,943,959,960,968,969,977,988,991,993,994,995,999],[2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,3,2,1,1,1,54,1,2,2,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,4,1,2,1,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,2,1,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,17,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: brian@meaddata.com (Brian Curran) Subject: Re: ESPN/TBS GAMES? Article-I.D.: meaddata.1pptv1$mgb Distribution: world Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: taurus.meaddata.com In article <05APR93.13661642.0023@lafibm.lafayette.edu>, VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes: |> Does anyone know where I can get a list of nationally televised |> games, such as ESPN and TBS? I live on the East coast and I'd |> like to catch as many Giants games as I possibly can! This list is published every week in Baseball Weekly. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Curran Mead Data Central brian@meaddata.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "That was not swimming. That was bathing." - A German reporter, after watching 1972 Olympic superstar swimmer Mark Spitz get badly beaten during a 1991 comeback race rec.sport.baseball3["from:","brian@meaddata.com","(brian","curran)","subject:","re:","espn/tbs","games?","article-i.d.:","meaddata.1pptv1$mgb","distribution:","world","organization:","mead","data","central,","dayton","oh","lines:","13","nntp-posting-host:","taurus.meaddata.com","","in","article","<05apr93.13661642.0023@lafibm.lafayette.edu>,","vb30@lafibm.lafayette.edu","(vb30)","writes:","|>","does","anyone","know","where","i","can","get","a","list","of","nationally","televised","|>","games,","such","as","espn","and","tbs?","","i","live","on","the","east","coast","and","i'd","|>","like","to","catch","as","many","giants","games","as","i","possibly","can!","","this","list","is","published","every","week","in","baseball","weekly.","--","","------------------------------------------------------------------------------","brian","curran","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","mead","data","central","","","","","","","","","","","","","","brian@meaddata.com","","------------------------------------------------------------------------------","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","\"that","was","not","swimming.","","that","was","bathing.\"","","","","","","-","a","german","reporter,","after","watching","1972","olympic","superstar","swimmer","","","","","","","","","","","","mark","spitz","get","badly","beaten","during","a","1991","comeback","race"][0,1000,[10,18,20,52,62,77,79,82,83,89,122,132,139,150,170,173,188,209,229,231,234,237,246,272,273,275,276,277,281,298,299,302,317,321,329,330,333,335,340,343,363,372,373,375,388,409,417,426,428,445,454,458,470,473,477,493,499,508,514,516,519,527,554,572,575,576,581,582,590,616,629,632,667,691,695,698,706,710,724,726,728,751,760,779,808,814,833,844,936,945,951,959,962,965,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,67,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: "William K. Willis" <ww1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Don Cherry - help me out, here Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu As a person who has rarely even SEEN Don Cherry and doesn't know anything about him, I don't know whether it is just this area (Pittsburgh) of the USA that is "deprived" of his broadcasts or whether he's a Canadian thing altogether. Seriously, what is he all about? I know he was a coach at one time, and from the volume of posts about him, SOMEONE surely is getting a steady diet of him somehow, but my question is, what is the deal with him? Secondly, are the comments of his that I read about on the net merely flame bait, or do people actually take him seriously? I gotta tell you, from what I see, he really sounds like an ass. Let me know - maybe I'm missing something. rec.sport.hockey0["from:","\"william","k.","willis\"","<ww1a+@andrew.cmu.edu>","subject:","don","cherry","-","help","me","out,","here","organization:","administrative","computing","&","info","services,","carnegie","mellon,","pittsburgh,","pa","lines:","12","nntp-posting-host:","andrew.cmu.edu","","","","","","","","as","a","person","who","has","rarely","even","seen","don","cherry","and","doesn't","know","anything","about","him,","i","don't","know","whether","it","is","just","this","area","(pittsburgh)","of","the","usa","that","is","\"deprived\"","of","his","broadcasts","or","whether","he's","a","canadian","thing","altogether.","","seriously,","what","is","he","all","about?","","i","know","he","was","a","coach","at","one","time,","and","from","the","volume","of","posts","about","him,","someone","surely","is","getting","a","steady","diet","of","him","somehow,","but","my","question","is,","what","is","the","deal","with","him?","","secondly,","are","the","comments","of","his","that","i","read","about","on","the","net","merely","flame","bait,","or","do","people","actually","take","him","seriously?","","i","gotta","tell","you,","from","what","i","see,","he","really","sounds","like","an","ass.","","let","me","know","-","maybe","i'm","missing","something."][0,1000,[1,44,50,67,79,82,83,86,114,119,132,135,138,145,164,170,179,187,200,204,217,232,234,249,251,281,287,307,310,329,330,333,343,347,372,373,380,388,399,406,409,426,428,433,438,447,455,457,463,471,482,486,495,499,509,514,522,525,526,534,549,550,562,566,572,577,580,613,619,622,627,628,649,650,657,667,675,696,710,733,740,750,751,752,754,756,760,767,774,777,778,779,782,789,806,807,817,840,850,855,858,863,871,898,911,913,915,916,921,922,947,968,970,980,997],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,5,1,2,5,1,12,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us (Roger C. Pao) Subject: Re: 16Mb ISA limit Keywords: monitor, VGA, question Organization: MicroTech Software Lines: 29 marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley) writes: >In the latest PC Magazine (Pentium isssue), there >is an editorial on the >advantages of a PC using EISE/VESA-LB rather >than just plain ISA/VESA-LB. Supposedly users >will eventually want more than 16Mb of RAM. >However since the ISA bus has only 24 bits, >then anything on the bus can access only 16Mb >even if I have 32Mb on the motherboard. >So far I agree with the arguments. >Then the writer claims that glitches can >occur in systems with over 16Mb because >of that limit. That part I don't understand >because the RAM is right on the motherboard. >So the cpu should have no problems talking >with the RAM. Can anybody explain this ? The problem is with ISA bus-masters which can only address the first 16MBs of system memory. Bus-masters do not use the CPU nor the system DMA to do the actua...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us","(roger","c.","pao)","subject:","re:","16mb","isa","limit","keywords:","monitor,","vga,","question","organization:","microtech","software","lines:","29","","marka@ssd.csd.harris.com","(mark","ashley)","writes:","",">in","the","latest","pc","magazine","(pentium","isssue),","there","",">is","an","editorial","on","the",">advantages","of","a","pc","using","eise/vesa-lb","rather",">than","just","plain","isa/vesa-lb.","supposedly","users",">will","eventually","want","more","than","16mb","of","ram.",">however","since","the","isa","bus","has","only","24","bits,","",">then","anything","on","the","bus","can","access","only","16mb",">even","if","i","have","32mb","on","the","motherboard.",">so","far","i","agree","with","the","arguments.","",">then","the","writer","claims","that","glitches","can",">occur","in","systems","with","over","16mb","because","",">of","that","limit.","that","part","i","don't","understand",">because","the","ram","is","right","on","the","motherboard.",">so","the","cpu","should","have","no","problems","talking",">with","the","ram.","can","anybody","explain","this","?","","the","problem","is","with","isa","bus-masters","which","can","only","address","the","first","16mbs","of","system","memory.","","bus-masters","do","not","use","the","cpu","nor","the","system","dma","to","do","the","actual","data","transfer","but","transfer","their","data","directly","to","the","system","ram.","","rp93","--","","roger","c.","pao","","{gordius,bagdad,pride386}!mts!rpao,","rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us"][0,1000,[0,2,13,18,45,48,66,82,83,101,114,164,170,173,174,183,188,191,195,214,224,235,248,250,254,261,275,281,286,289,299,307,318,329,343,346,352,356,372,373,388,392,413,421,426,428,437,445,446,449,472,484,489,498,513,514,518,532,534,537,539,541,568,574,580,585,597,624,629,639,643,650,653,660,661,665,667,680,690,695,709,710,712,727,731,735,739,740,743,751,752,754,755,760,764,766,781,786,795,797,803,808,813,819,820,831,832,833,870,871,892,894,899,900,909,936,947,976,980,995,996],[2,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,3,3,2,1,1,11,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,17,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: betts@netcom.com (Jonathan Betts) Subject: Ghost on Apple 12" Color -> user=insane!! Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 16 Dear Netters, My sister has an Apple 12" Color Display hooked up to an LC. Problem: There is an annoying, horizontal, ghost-like stripe that precesses vertically about once per second. It is about 1 cm high. She is in grave danger of going insane because of it. Any ideas of what it might be and how I might cure it for her? -Joe Betts betts@netcom.com PS: if I pick up the display (I thought it might be RFI from the LC) it seems to get worse! comp.sys.mac.hardware14["from:","betts@netcom.com","(jonathan","betts)","subject:","ghost","on","apple","12\"","color","->","user=insane!!","organization:","netcom","online","communications","services","(408-241-9760","login:","guest)","lines:","16","","dear","netters,","","my","sister","has","an","apple","12\"","color","display","hooked","up","to","an","lc.","","problem:","","there","is","an","annoying,","horizontal,","ghost-like","stripe","that","","precesses","vertically","about","once","per","second.","","it","is","about","1","cm","high.","she","is","in","grave","danger","of","going","insane","because","of","it.","","any","ideas","of","what","it","might","be","and","how","i","might","cure","it","for","her?","","-joe","betts","betts@netcom.com","","ps:","if","i","pick","up","the","display","(i","thought","it","might","be","rfi","from","the","lc)","it","","seems","to","get","worse!"][0,1000,[0,18,35,36,64,82,89,91,103,122,128,131,147,154,170,179,180,207,231,236,237,259,280,281,296,305,326,329,333,334,343,354,356,363,372,388,413,421,428,440,445,449,493,495,497,505,514,526,543,545,580,593,599,633,656,667,682,683,710,718,721,744,746,747,751,752,755,760,775,777,831,852,857,858,878,885,916,919,921,929,953,959,985],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,11,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) Subject: Re: HBP? BB? BIG-CAT? Distribution: na Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego Lines: 15 Nntp-Posting-Host: mbongo.ucsd.edu In article <C5r7tv.36s@odin.corp.sgi.com>, kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes: I don't |> blame players like Galarraga, Dawson and McGee when they swing at |> a strike and put the ball in play. Well, no problem! But I get pretty annoyed when they swing at non-strikes and make outs. Especially ball four on the 3-2 counts... Dave -- Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029 rec.sport.baseball3["from:","demers@cs.ucsd.edu","(david","demers)","subject:","re:","hbp?","bb?","big-cat?","distribution:","na","organization:","cse","dept.,","uc","san","diego","lines:","15","nntp-posting-host:","mbongo.ucsd.edu","","","in","article","<c5r7tv.36s@odin.corp.sgi.com>,","kubey@sgi.com","(ken","kubey)","writes:","","i","don't","|>","blame","players","like","galarraga,","dawson","and","mcgee","when","they","swing","at","|>","a","strike","and","put","the","ball","in","play.","","well,","no","problem!","","but","i","get","pretty","annoyed","when","they","swing","at","non-strikes","and","make","outs.","","especially","ball","four","on","the","3-2","counts...","","dave","--","","dave","demers","","","","","","","","","","","","","demers@cs.ucsd.edu","computer","science","&","engineering","0114","","demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet","uc","san","diego","","","","","...!ucsd!cs!demers","la","jolla,","ca","92093-0114","(619)","534-0688,","or","-8187,","fax:","(619)","534-7029"][0,1000,[10,12,48,76,79,81,82,83,140,151,170,171,173,187,207,211,212,221,243,292,294,298,299,312,315,329,330,333,342,346,348,372,394,407,418,426,428,430,438,445,469,470,487,492,496,504,512,514,525,527,554,562,572,582,584,587,593,595,667,700,710,713,726,727,732,751,756,761,767,781,785,786,800,808,848,909,946,959,993,995,998,999],[1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,25,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan) Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris) Reply-To: tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan) Organization: Iowa State University Lines: 36 In article <1993Apr20.143453.3127@news.uiowa.edu>, mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon) writes: > From article <1qvgu5INN2np@lynx.unm.edu>, by osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski): > > > Well, it did not take long to see how consequent some Greeks are in > > requesting that Thessaloniki are not called Solun by Bulgarian netters. > > So, Napoleon, why do you write about Konstantinople and not Istanbul? > > > > Marek Osinski > > Thessaloniki is called Thessaloniki by its inhabitants for the last 2300 years. > The city was never called Solun by its inhabitants. > Instabul was called Konstantinoupolis from 320 AD until about the 1920s. > That's about 1600 years. There many people alive today who were born in a city > called Konstantinoupolis. How many people do you know that were born in...talk.politics.mideast15["from:","tankut@iastate.edu","(sabri","t","atan)","subject:","re:","turkey-cyprus-bosnia-serbia-greece","(armenia-azeris)","reply-to:","tankut@iastate.edu","(sabri","t","atan)","organization:","iowa","state","university","lines:","36","","in","article","<1993apr20.143453.3127@news.uiowa.edu>,","mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu","(mau","napoleon)","writes:",">","from","article","<1qvgu5inn2np@lynx.unm.edu>,","by","osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu","(marek","osinski):",">","",">",">","well,","it","did","not","take","long","to","see","how","consequent","some","greeks","are","in",">",">","requesting","that","thessaloniki","are","not","called","solun","by","bulgarian","netters.","",">",">","so,","napoleon,","why","do","you","write","about","konstantinople","and","not","istanbul?",">",">","",">",">","marek","osinski",">","",">","thessaloniki","is","called","thessaloniki","by","its","inhabitants","for","the","last","2300","years.",">","the","city","was","never","called","solun","by","its","inhabitants.",">","instabul","was","called","konstantinoupolis","from","320","ad","until","about","the","1920s.",">","that's","about","1600","years.","there","many","people","alive","today","who","were","born","in","a","city",">","called","konstantinoupolis.","how","many","people","do","you","know","that","were","born","in","a","city",">","called","solun.",">","",">","napoleon","","are","you","one","of","those","people","who","were","born","when","istanbul","was","called","","konstantinopolis?","i","don't","think","so!","if","those","people","use","it","because","they","are","used","to","do","so,","then","i","understand.","but","open","any","map","today","(except","a","few","that","try","to","be","political)","you","will","see","that","the","name","","of","the","city","is","printed","as","istanbul.","so,","don't","try","to","give","any","arguments","to","using","konstantinopolis","except","to","cause","some","flames,","to","make","some","political","statement.","","","","--","tankut","atan","tankut@iastate.edu","","\"achtung,","baby!\""][0,1000,[6,14,15,18,19,30,36,44,48,49,55,76,83,86,91,100,113,120,126,138,139,154,159,170,173,175,176,179,188,193,198,202,212,217,220,223,234,237,248,281,288,296,301,309,329,330,333,343,348,349,369,372,381,383,388,398,400,405,412,420,421,425,426,428,445,447,462,470,486,489,495,504,510,513,514,515,525,534,545,547,564,568,572,587,591,600,605,607,620,624,656,657,667,688,710,724,745,747,751,760,770,777,779,783,800,808,821,831,843,855,856,874,882,886,891,904,921,931,946,960,961,962,964,968,973,977,978,989,995],[1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,2,4,3,1,1,21,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,4,3,2,1,2,1,2,3,2,2,1,1,2,3,1,1,13,1,1,7,7,4,1,1,1,2,4,2,1,4,1,2,2,4,1,6,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,4,1,5,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Lines: 56 In article <Apr.10.05.32.29.1993.14388@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes: >vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes: > >No, IMO, Mr. Stowell missed the point. > >> "We affirm the absolutes of Scripture, not because we are arrogant >> moralists, but because we believe in God who is truth, who has revealed His >> truth in His Word, and therefore we hold as precious the strategic importance >> of those absolutes." > >Mr. Stowell seems to have jumped rather strangely from truth to absolutes. >I don't see how that necessarily follows. > >Are all truths also absolutes? >Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)? > >If the answer to either of these questions is no, then perhaps you can >explain to me how you determine which parts of Scripture are 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From: mcadams@trane.rtp.dg.com (Ed McAdams) Subject: Piano, free to charity Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 15 I have one of those HEAVY antique upright pianos I would like to contribute to any charity with muscle enough to get it out of my house. If I get no response from a charity I will sell to for $100, you haul. It is in good shape, needs tuning. I'm in south Durham county. Ed McAdams Data General Corporation mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6369 Ed McAdams Data General Corporation mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6369 misc.forsale12["from:","mcadams@trane.rtp.dg.com","(ed","mcadams)","subject:","piano,","free","to","charity","organization:","data","general","corporation,","research","triangle","park,","nc","lines:","15","","i","have","one","of","those","heavy","antique","upright","pianos","i","would","like","to","contribute","to","any","charity","with","muscle","enough","to","get","it","out","of","my","house.","","if","i","get","no","response","from","a","charity","i","will","sell","to","for","$100,","you","haul.","","it","is","in","good","shape,","needs","tuning.","","i'm","in","south","durham","county.","","ed","mcadams","data","general","corporation","","","","","","","","","","","","mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com","62","t.","w.","alexander","drive","","","","","","","","","","","","{backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams","research","triangle","park,","nc","27709","","","","(919)","248-6369","ed","mcadams","data","general","corporation","","","","","","","","","","","","mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com","62","t.","w.","alexander","drive","","","","","","","","","","","","{backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams","research","triangle","park,","nc","27709","","","","(919)","248-6369"][0,1000,[36,37,44,73,91,115,163,168,170,207,218,273,281,290,299,301,329,330,337,343,346,353,372,378,388,399,420,425,428,432,445,485,488,495,514,520,548,584,591,592,596,600,608,625,630,650,654,666,667,687,695,697,741,751,755,769,779,825,827,846,854,871,880,896,903,916,921,942,959],[1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,3,3,1,3,1,1,4,1,3,2,1,1,55,1,6,1,1,1,1,3,3,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,3,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke) Subject: Re: pushing the envelope Organization: University of Central Florida Distribution: na Lines: 18 > In <1993Apr3.233154.7045@Princeton.EDU> lije@cognito.Princeton.EDU (Elijah Millgram) writes: > > > A friend of mine and I were wondering where the expression "pushing > the envelope" comes from. Anyone out there know? > Everbody has been defining envelope. Why was the world "envelope" chosen, rather than say "shell", or "boundary". In analogy with the envelopes of airships perhaps? Actually, "shell" might be good. Push the shell too hard and it (the aircraft?) breaks. -- Thomas Clarke Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL 12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826 (407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu sci.space7["from:","clarke@acme.ucf.edu","(thomas","clarke)","subject:","re:","pushing","the","envelope","organization:","university","of","central","florida","distribution:","na","lines:","18","",">","in","<1993apr3.233154.7045@princeton.edu>","lije@cognito.princeton.edu","(elijah","","","millgram)","writes:",">","",">","",">","a","friend","of","mine","and","i","were","wondering","where","the","expression","\"pushing",">","the","envelope\"","comes","from.","","anyone","out","there","know?",">","","everbody","has","been","defining","envelope.","why","was","the","world","\"envelope\"","chosen,","rather","than","say","\"shell\",","","or","\"boundary\".","","in","analogy","with","the","envelopes","of","airships","perhaps?","","actually,","\"shell\"","might","be","good.","","push","the","shell","too","hard","and","it","(the","aircraft?)","breaks.","","--","thomas","clarke","institute","for","simulation","and","training,","university","of","central","fl","12424","research","parkway,","suite","300,","orlando,","fl","32826","(407)658-5030,","fax:","(407)658-5059,","clarke@acme.ucf.edu"][0,1000,[6,10,36,49,51,53,54,62,85,106,123,125,139,150,152,155,161,170,173,179,187,209,230,234,238,255,261,288,299,304,307,308,326,329,332,333,343,346,350,372,384,406,412,418,428,432,437,439,444,445,495,514,515,535,551,563,580,586,587,595,599,609,644,650,654,656,658,667,690,710,729,733,741,744,751,774,792,804,808,816,819,831,852,867,869,892,955,962,973,974,978,985,987,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,3,4,1,1,12,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: afielden@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (andrew.j.fielden) Subject: X interactive performance Keywords: benchmark Organization: AT&T Lines: 21 We recently got an NCD X-terminal to evaluate. This is running XRemote over a serial line. I wanted to get some measurement of response time, so I wrote a small Xlib program which simply creates a window, maps it and sends the first Expose event to itself. The program times the delay from sending the event, to receiving it. I thought this was the simplest way to test client/X-server round-trip delays. It's a similar concept to the ping(8C) program. Is this a valid test to perform ? I've also tried the xbench program, available from ftp.uu.net, which bombards the server with graphics operations, but I just wanted to get a quantative measure of what is "acceptable" interactive response time. Has anyone got any ideas on this subject ? Thanks. Andrew. (afielden@mlsma.att.com) -- +----------------------------------------+------------------------...comp.windows.x8["from:","afielden@cbnewsb.cb.att.com","(andrew.j.fielden)","subject:","x","interactive","performance","keywords:","benchmark","organization:","at&t","lines:","21","","we","recently","got","an","ncd","x-terminal","to","evaluate.","this","is","running","xremote","over","a","serial","line.","i","wanted","to","get","some","measurement","of","response","time,","so","i","wrote","a","small","xlib","program","which","simply","creates","a","window,","maps","it","and","sends","the","first","expose","","event","to","itself.","the","program","times","the","delay","from","sending","the","event,","to","","receiving","it.","","i","thought","this","was","the","simplest","way","to","test","client/x-server","","round-trip","delays.","it's","a","similar","concept","to","the","ping(8c)","program.","","is","this","a","valid","test","to","perform","?","i've","also","tried","the","xbench","program,","available","from","ftp.uu.net,","which","bombards","the","server","with","graphics","operations,","but","i","","just","wanted","to","get","a","quantative","measure","of","what","is","\"acceptable\"","interactive","","response","time.","has","anyone","got","any","ideas","on","this","subject","?","","thanks.","andrew.","(afielden@mlsma.att.com)","","--","","+----------------------------------------+----------------------------------+","|andrew","fielden.","at&t","network","systems","uk","|","","","","","","","","tel",":","+44","666","832023","","","","","","|","|information","systems","group","(sun","support)","|","","","email",":","afielden@mlsma.att.com","|","+----------------------------------------+----------------------------------+"][0,1000,[7,25,29,34,39,52,54,74,75,82,83,89,91,93,101,109,123,131,134,142,145,152,158,159,170,173,183,209,220,231,234,262,273,281,286,287,306,307,310,319,329,333,334,342,343,346,352,368,371,372,373,384,388,395,400,402,411,415,422,428,431,437,445,449,455,487,495,505,514,525,526,528,540,543,555,580,586,597,602,615,644,650,665,667,674,676,694,706,710,739,742,743,744,751,752,757,759,765,777,792,796,805,810,813,853,854,885,895,910,913,919,921,926,959,963,971,976,984,991,993],[2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,4,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,25,4,1,8,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down) Subject: Re: Barasso - the cheap shot master? Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto Lines: 27 Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >After watching the Pengiuns all year (and as many other teams as >possible), I've really noticed an increase in Tom Barasso's cheap shots >this year (and not noticed a corrsponding increase with other >goaltenders). Have a look at Ed Belfour. >He also KICKED John McLean. Of >course he wasn't called for that. Belfour kicked Gerrard Gallant when the Wings played the 'Hawks a couple of weeks ago. No penalty. No review. No suspension. This was after he attacked Bob Probert in the previous period. He was penalized for that. >There's no doubt in >my mind that Barasso is the dirtiest golatender since Hextall. >He's also very good. Likewise Belfour. Too bad he goes down so much! :-) >Ralph Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu) rec.sport.hockey0["from:","bdown@vis.toronto.edu","(brian","down)","subject:","re:","barasso","-","the","cheap","shot","master?","organization:","department","of","computer","science,","university","of","toronto","lines:","27","","robert","angelo","pleshar","<rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu>","writes:","",">after","watching","the","pengiuns","all","year","(and","as","many","other","teams","as",">possible),","i've","really","noticed","an","increase","in","tom","barasso's","cheap","shots",">this","year","(and","not","noticed","a","corrsponding","increase","with","other",">goaltenders).","","have","a","look","at","ed","belfour.","",">he","also","kicked","john","mclean.","of",">course","he","wasn't","called","for","that.","","","belfour","kicked","gerrard","gallant","when","the","wings","played","the","'hawks","a","couple","of","weeks","ago.","no","penalty.","no","review.","no","suspension.","this","was","after","he","attacked","bob","probert","in","the","previous","period.","he","was","penalized","for","that.","",">there's","no","doubt","in",">my","mind","that","barasso","is","the","dirtiest","golatender","since","hextall.",">he's","also","very","good.","","likewise","belfour.","too","bad","he","goes","down","so","much!",":-)","",">ralph","","brian","down","(bdown@vis.toronto.edu)"][0,1000,[18,27,36,58,65,74,76,77,86,113,120,149,151,163,170,173,184,188,210,217,220,221,234,235,240,255,275,281,299,310,317,332,340,343,346,361,368,372,373,377,396,398,412,419,425,426,428,439,445,447,456,474,499,505,514,557,558,570,572,583,585,589,594,596,598,599,616,619,644,650,653,666,667,674,690,693,699,701,710,720,726,729,739,751,752,756,760,784,792,800,808,812,819,822,847,854,871,884,899,901,939,944,959,963,967,968,982,985,995,997],[1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,4,2,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,2,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) Subject: Gibbons Outlines SSF Redesign Guidance News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio Lines: 76 NASA Headquarters distributed the following press release today (4/6). I've typed it in verbatim, for you folks to chew over. Many of the topics recently discussed on sci.space are covered in this. Gibbons Outlines Space Station Redesign Guidance Dr. John H. Gibbons, Director, Office of Science and Technology Policy, outlined to the members-designate of the Advisory Committee on the Redesign of the Space Station on April 3, three budget options as guidance to the committee in their deliberations on the redesign of the space station. A low option of $5 billion, a mid-range option of $7 billion and a high option of $9 billion will be considered by the committee. Each option would cover the total expenditures for space station from 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From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest) Subject: Re: Would "clipper" make a good cover for other encryption method? Nntp-Posting-Host: rac2.wam.umd.edu Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Lines: 11 In article <1993Apr20.032623.3046@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes: >Clipper might be a good way to cover the use of another layer of >encryption. True, but will traditional encryptions schemes, when further encrypted by Clipper, be _more_ vulnerable to attacks such as partially known plaintext? -Thomas sci.crypt4["from:","tedwards@wam.umd.edu","(technopagan","priest)","subject:","re:","would","\"clipper\"","make","a","good","cover","for","other","encryption","method?","nntp-posting-host:","rac2.wam.umd.edu","organization:","university","of","maryland,","college","park","lines:","11","","in","article","<1993apr20.032623.3046@eff.org>","kadie@eff.org","(carl","m.","kadie)","writes:",">clipper","might","be","a","good","way","to","cover","the","use","of","another","layer","of",">encryption.","","true,","but","will","traditional","encryptions","schemes,","when","further","encrypted","by","clipper,","be","_more_","vulnerable","to","attacks","such","as","partially","known","plaintext?","","-thomas"][0,1000,[21,36,45,76,79,83,94,159,163,168,170,177,178,223,228,230,234,249,254,272,327,334,336,338,343,372,388,401,411,412,420,428,444,445,462,470,489,495,499,514,525,527,553,572,605,608,656,663,667,674,683,706,710,734,751,752,779,791,808,811,911,920,985,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES In-Reply-To: henrik@quayle.kpc.com's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 16:45:17 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: vein.cs.rochester.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Rochester <1993Apr17.185118.10792@ee.rochester.edu> <1993Apr19.155856.8260@kpc.com> <1993Apr20.000413.25123@ee.rochester.edu> <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> In article <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: [stuff deleted] > Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to drag ARMENIA into the > KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. Gimme a break. CAPITAL letters, or NOT, the above is pure nonsense. It seems to me that short sighted Armenians are escalating the hostilities while hoping that Turkey will stay out. Stop and think for a moment, will you? Armenia doesn't need anyone to drag her into the conflict, it is a part of it. >The KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived 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From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) Subject: Re: Swimming pool defense Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 17 In article <dasmith.734719640@husc.harvard.edu> dasmith@husc8.harvard.edu (David Smith) writes: >Granted, the simple fact of holding down a job will improve these kids' chances >of getting another job in the future, but what inner city kid would want to hold >down just one more minimum wage job when there is so much more money to be made >dealing drugs? What suburban kid would want to hold down a minimum wage job when there is so much more money to be made dealing drugs? Yet, somehow, surburban kids do hold down minimum wage jobs. So do inner city kids, when give the chance. Any reason you think that inner city kids are incapable of doing legitimate work? -- ted frank | thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | I'm sorry, the card says "Moops." the u of c law school | standard disclaimers | talk.politics.misc18["from:","thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu","(ted","frank)","subject:","re:","swimming","pool","defense","reply-to:","thf2@midway.uchicago.edu","organization:","university","of","chicago","lines:","17","","in","article","<dasmith.734719640@husc.harvard.edu>","dasmith@husc8.harvard.edu","(david","smith)","writes:",">granted,","the","simple","fact","of","holding","down","a","job","will","improve","these","kids'","chances",">of","getting","another","job","in","the","future,","but","what","inner","city","kid","would","want","to","hold",">down","just","one","more","minimum","wage","job","when","there","is","so","much","more","money","to","be","made",">dealing","drugs?","","","","what","suburban","kid","would","want","to","hold","down","a","minimum","wage","job","when","there","is","so","much","more","money","to","be","made","dealing","drugs?","","yet,","somehow,","surburban","kids","do","hold","down","minimum","wage","jobs.","","so","do","inner","city","kids,","when","give","the","chance.","","any","reason","you","think","that","inner","city","kids","are","incapable","of","doing","legitimate","work?","--","","ted","frank","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","","thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu","|","","","","","","","","","i'm","sorry,","the","card","says","\"moops.\"","the","u","of","c","law","school","","","","","|","","standard","disclaimers","","","","","","|"][0,1000,[2,9,44,54,76,83,91,100,132,138,144,163,170,173,176,190,215,217,221,242,255,268,281,306,307,308,313,315,323,343,344,361,368,372,378,388,389,412,417,418,420,425,428,445,461,470,490,495,499,514,517,519,522,524,526,534,561,564,590,629,645,656,662,667,686,694,710,712,722,726,733,751,754,760,779,783,792,795,800,808,810,813,831,846,854,858,860,862,871,890,964,967,977,979,980,995],[1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,3,43,1,5,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,3,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,2,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,4,6,2,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 82 roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: >In article <C5rrot.MMM@rice.edu> fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot) writes: >>In article <C5rpoJ.IJv@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: >>>In article <1993Apr19.184303.6205@stortek.com> vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak) writes: >>>> >>> [...] >>>> 5) Point out that even if the fire was set by someone inside of the >>>> building, it came as a direct result of the actions of the FBI/BATF. >>>> And the people inside (including 17 children) deserved a trial, instead >>>> of this. >>> >>>Well they had over 40 days to come out with their hands up on national tv >>>to get the trial they deserved. 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From: garrett@Ingres.COM Subject: Re: Temper tantrums from the 1960's Summary: Pathelogical liars News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1 Keywords: Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division Distribution: usa Lines: 36 In article <1993Apr15.175829.22411@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@us.oracle.com (Michael Friedman) writes... >In article <1993Apr14.231117.21872@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM writes: >>In article <philC5Ht1t.GwA@netcom.com>, phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes... >>>Correct. JFK was quite disgusting in that way. The reports of the women that >>>he coerced via power of the office are now in the dozens. 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From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger) Subject: TV Schedule for Next Week Distribution: na Nntp-Posting-Host: lamar.acns.colostate.edu Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 20 United States TV Schedule: April 18 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 1 EST ABC (to Eastern time zone) April 18 St. Louis at Chicago 12 CDT ABC (to Cent/Mou time zones) April 18 Los Angeles at Calgary 12 PDT ABC (to Pacific time zone) April 20 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 7:30 ESPN April 22 TBA 7:30 ESPN April 24 TBA 7:30 ESPN If somebody would send me the CBC/TSN schedule I'll post that as well. ******************************************************************************* * Mike Burger * My Canada includes, Quebec, Ontario, * * mmb@lamar.colostate.edu * the Maritimes, the Prairies, and Florida * * A Beginning Computing TA Stud ...rec.sport.hockey0["from:","mmb@lamar.colostate.edu","(michael","burger)","subject:","tv","schedule","for","next","week","distribution:","na","nntp-posting-host:","lamar.acns.colostate.edu","organization:","colorado","state","university,","fort","collins,","co","","80523","lines:","20","","united","states","tv","schedule:","april","18","","","devils/islanders","at","pittsburgh","","","1","est","","abc","","(to","eastern","time","zone)","april","18","","","st.","louis","at","chicago","","","","","","","","","","","","","12","cdt","abc","","(to","cent/mou","time","zones)","april","18","","","los","angeles","at","calgary","","","","","","","","","","","12","pdt","abc","","(to","pacific","time","zone)","april","20","","","devils/islanders","at","pittsburgh","","","7:30","","","espn","april","22","","","tba","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","7:30","","","espn","april","24","","","tba","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","7:30","","","espn","","if","somebody","would","send","me","the","cbc/tsn","schedule","i'll","post","that","as","well.","","","*******************************************************************************","*","","mike","burger","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","*","","my","canada","includes,","quebec,","ontario,","","","","","*","*","","mmb@lamar.colostate.edu","","","","","","","","*","","the","maritimes,","the","prairies,","and","florida","*","*","","a","beginning","computing","ta","stud","","*","","four","months","a","year.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","*","*","","over","500","students","served","","","","","","","*","","","","--royal","canadian","air","farce","","","","","","","","","","","","","*","*******************************************************************************","*","","","","","","university","of","michigan","-","1990","","--","","colorado","state","university","-","199?","","","","*","*******************************************************************************"][0,1000,[11,34,36,53,75,79,84,89,99,106,119,122,130,157,158,159,163,170,173,186,191,231,243,247,248,250,254,262,273,279,299,312,314,333,334,343,344,349,352,365,372,374,394,405,407,412,416,418,428,429,432,448,471,482,488,499,505,512,514,516,523,528,534,539,540,549,556,564,565,572,582,586,595,607,667,678,709,710,716,744,746,751,756,758,759,760,764,765,766,790,802,803,806,825,857,916,938,956,970,973],[1,14,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,3,1,3,1,1,3,3,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,201,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,6,5,1,2,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) Subject: Re: MORBUS MENIERE - is there a real remedy? Organization: WINCO Lines: 19 In article <19607@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes: >>A recent movie, Lorenzo's Oil, offers a perfect example of what >>I'm talking about. If you haven't seen it, you should. It's not > >I saw it. It is almost a unique case in history. First, ALD >is a rare but fatal disease. [...] >Their accomplishment was significant. (Of course, it was overplayed >in the movie for dramatic effect. The oil is not curative, and doesn't even >prevent progression, only slows it.) There's a pretty good article in the the March 6, 1993 New Scientist titled "Pouring cold water on Lorenzo's oil". The article states that research has shown that the oil has no discernable effect on the progression of the disease in patients in which demyelination has begun. In patients with AMN (a less acute form of the same disease) there is some improvement seen in the abilit...sci.med5["from:","cdm@pmafire.inel.gov","(dale","cook)","subject:","re:","morbus","meniere","-","is","there","a","real","remedy?","organization:","winco","lines:","19","","in","article","<19607@pitt.uucp>","geb@cs.pitt.edu","(gordon","banks)","writes:",">>a","recent","movie,","lorenzo's","oil,","offers","a","perfect","example","of","what",">>i'm","talking","about.","","if","you","haven't","seen","it,","you","should.","","it's","not",">",">i","saw","it.","","it","is","almost","a","unique","case","in","history.","","first,","ald",">is","a","rare","but","fatal","disease.","[...]","",">their","accomplishment","was","significant.","","(of","course,","it","was","overplayed",">in","the","movie","for","dramatic","effect.","","the","oil","is","not","curative,","and","doesn't","even",">prevent","progression,","only","slows","it.)","","","there's","a","pretty","good","article","in","the","the","march","6,","1993","new","scientist","titled","\"pouring","cold","water","on","lorenzo's","oil\".","","the","article","states","that","research","has","shown","that","the","oil","has","no","discernable","effect","on","the","progression","of","the","disease","in","patients","in","which","demyelination","has","begun.","","in","patients","with","amn","(a","less","acute","form","of","the","same","disease)","there","is","some","improvement","seen","in","the","ability","of","nerve","fibres","to","conduct","impulses.","","in","ald","patients","who","have","not","yet","begun","demyelination,","the","jury","is","still","out.","","---dale","cook"][0,1000,[2,10,12,18,25,36,46,58,69,82,83,112,126,151,156,168,170,179,189,194,195,197,201,205,206,211,217,220,228,232,234,243,253,261,281,291,299,302,305,311,313,333,334,342,343,344,346,348,367,372,373,388,390,394,400,406,414,424,425,428,432,437,445,451,470,472,486,495,499,505,514,526,533,554,565,580,597,611,621,630,639,643,650,656,667,671,672,679,690,691,706,709,710,714,719,751,752,753,759,760,764,770,778,793,800,808,809,813,817,831,841,842,871,878,885,891,898,899,920,931,947,960,962,969,975,984,990,993,995],[1,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,6,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,14,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,3,8,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
Subject: Space FAQ 01/15 - Introduction From: leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech) Expires: 6 May 1993 19:53:44 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Keywords: Frequently Asked Questions Supersedes: <intro_730956346@cs.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler.cs.unc.edu Lines: 310 Archive-name: space/intro Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:10 $ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON SCI.SPACE/SCI.ASTRO INTRODUCTION This series of linked messages is periodically posted to the Usenet groups sci.space and sci.astro in an attempt to provide good answers to frequently asked questions and other reference material which is worth preserving. If you have corrections or answers to other frequently asked questions that you would like included in this posting, send email to leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech). 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From: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton) Subject: PC games (joystick) port Article-I.D.: ozonehol.5109.442.uupcb Reply-To: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton) Distribution: world Organization: Ozone Online Operations, Inc., DBA The Ozone Hole BBS Lines: 29 >Subject says it all - could someone tell me the pinout >for a PC type analogue joystick port? Joystick A: 1 +5 VDC 2 Button 1 3 X Axis 4 Ground 5 Ground 6 Y Axis 7 Button 2 8 + 5 VDC Joystick B: 9 +5 VDC 10 Button 1 11 X Axis 12 Ground 13 Y axis 14 Button 2 15 +5 VDC --- . SLMR 2.1 . Soft judges make hardened criminals. ---- The Ozone Hole BBS * A Private Bulletin Board Service * (504)891-3142 3 Full Service Nodes * USRobotics 16.8K bps * 10 Gigs * 100,000 Files SKYDIVE New Orleans! * RIME Network Mail HUB * 500+ Usenet Newsgrou...sci.electronics10["from:","gerald.belton@ozonehole.com","(gerald","belton)","subject:","pc","games","(joystick)","port","article-i.d.:","ozonehol.5109.442.uupcb","reply-to:","gerald.belton@ozonehole.com","(gerald","belton)","distribution:","world","organization:","ozone","online","operations,","inc.,","dba","the","ozone","hole","bbs","lines:","29","",">subject","says","it","all","-","could","someone","tell","me","the","pinout",">for","a","pc","type","analogue","joystick","port?","","joystick","a:","1","","","","","","","","+5","vdc","2","","","","","","","","button","1","3","","","","","","","","x","axis","4","","","","","","","","ground","5","","","","","","","","ground","6","","","","","","","","y","axis","7","","","","","","","","button","2","8","","","","","","","","+","5","vdc","joystick","b:","9","","","","","","","","+5","vdc","10","","","","","","","","button","1","11","","","","","","","","x","axis","12","","","","","","","","ground","13","","","","","","","","y","axis","14","","","","","","","","button","2","15","","","","","","","","+5","vdc","","---","",".","slmr","2.1",".","soft","judges","make","hardened","criminals.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","----","the","ozone","hole","bbs","*","a","private","bulletin","board","service","*","(504)891-3142","3","full","service","nodes","*","usrobotics","16.8k","bps","*","10","gigs","*","100,000","files","skydive","new","orleans!","*","rime","network","mail","hub","*","500+","usenet","newsgroups","please","route","all","questions","or","inquiries","to:","","postmaster@ozonehole.com"][0,1000,[0,2,3,25,34,56,61,69,74,77,83,89,99,112,139,150,161,166,170,174,177,178,187,203,207,213,214,226,228,241,269,279,285,287,297,299,309,313,315,356,370,372,375,377,378,382,399,402,404,418,428,431,471,474,495,499,501,514,525,526,551,582,586,602,624,641,654,657,667,669,675,699,704,710,727,742,744,748,750,751,753,762,769,795,804,810,811,826,841,849,850,860,864,865,892,894,897,951,955,966,968,970,971,977,989],[1,1,1,1,7,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,4,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,3,2,4,1,192,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: lepper@logopolis.mct.anl.gov (Matt Lepper 2-5950) Subject: Help with 3C503 and NCSA Telnet Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Lines: 8 Help! I'm trying to configure NCSA Telnet v2.3.05 to work with a 3C503 ethernet board. I can use FTP fine, but whenever I attempt to use Telnet, the machine hangs with a blank screen and a blinking green cursor. Any ideas? Please e-mail: lepper@maat.mct.anl.gov mjlepper@mtu.edu comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","lepper@logopolis.mct.anl.gov","(matt","lepper","2-5950)","subject:","help","with","3c503","and","ncsa","telnet","organization:","argonne","national","laboratory,","argonne,","illinois","x-newsreader:","tin","[version","1.1","pl9]","lines:","8","","help!","","","i'm","trying","to","configure","ncsa","telnet","v2.3.05","to","work","with","a","3c503","ethernet","board.","","i","can","use","ftp","fine,","but","whenever","i","attempt","to","use","telnet,","the","machine","hangs","with","a","blank","screen","and","a","blinking","green","cursor.","","any","ideas?","","please","e-mail:","","lepper@maat.mct.anl.gov","","mjlepper@mtu.edu"][0,1000,[12,32,48,68,83,89,91,103,125,170,213,235,266,304,305,321,329,333,347,350,353,372,384,388,400,409,428,432,489,514,518,525,527,528,611,617,624,625,641,650,667,710,743,751,760,807,826,833,841,852,853,864,867,910,929,996],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,8,1,5,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang) Subject: Re: SHO and SC Organization: D.J. Services Lines: 21 In article <5214@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes: >In article <chrissC587qB.D1B@netcom.com> chriss@netcom.com (Chris Silvester) writes: > >>WAGON, which I have heard is somehow slightly faster than the Coupe. > > Wagon has an automatic, it's slower. > Could be due to the rear-end ratio also. Usually automatics have different rear-ends than manuals, from my limited experience anyways. David > > -- David W. Hwang, M.D. // University of Michigan Medical School 1050 Wall Street, Suite 10C // Telephone: 313/663-5557 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 // Internet: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us rec.autos6["from:","david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us","(david","hwang)","subject:","re:","sho","and","sc","organization:","d.j.","services","lines:","21","","in","article","<5214@unisql.uucp>","wrat@unisql.uucp","(wharfie)","writes:",">in","article","<chrissc587qb.d1b@netcom.com>","chriss@netcom.com","(chris","silvester)","writes:",">",">>wagon,","which","i","have","heard","is","somehow","slightly","faster","than","the","coupe.",">",">","wagon","has","an","automatic,","it's","slower.",">","could","be","due","to","the","rear-end","ratio","also.","","","","usually","automatics","have","different","rear-ends","than","manuals,","from","my","limited","experience","anyways.","","david",">",">","","","--","","david","w.","hwang,","m.d.","","","","","","","","","","","//","","","","university","of","michigan","medical","school","1050","wall","street,","suite","10c","","","//","","","","","","","","","","","telephone:","313/663-5557","ann","arbor,","michigan","48105","","","","//","","","","internet:","david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us"][0,1000,[1,37,58,81,83,89,94,96,97,123,173,176,177,179,189,199,213,220,225,261,275,281,299,315,329,333,343,356,357,362,368,371,372,388,389,398,404,412,418,428,437,445,469,470,514,565,574,580,596,597,613,651,656,662,667,674,686,709,710,716,737,745,751,752,770,774,777,808,846,860,871,879,911,916,921,927,934,966,979,982,995],[1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,39,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Cinnamon Bear) Subject: Onkyo 55w/ch integrated amp forsale: Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Distribution: usa Lines: 18 I have a Onkyo integrated amplifier that I am looking to get rid of. 60w/ch integra series works great not a problem Asking $100 OBO If your interested call me at (317)743-2656 or email this address. MAKE ME AN OFFER!!! Todd -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% (___________________________________ % Todd Premo / / / % Purdue Universtiy / __ __ / __ / % Environmental Engineering misc.forsale12["from:","tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu","(cinnamon","bear)","subject:","onkyo","55w/ch","integrated","amp","forsale:","organization:","purdue","university","computing","center","distribution:","usa","lines:","18","","i","have","a","onkyo","integrated","amplifier","that","i","am","looking","to","get","rid","of.","","60w/ch","","integra","series","","","works","great","","not","a","problem","","","asking","$100","obo","","","if","your","interested","call","me","at","(317)743-2656","","or","email","this","address.","","make","me","an","offer!!!","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","todd","","--","","%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%","","(___________________________________","%","","","todd","premo","","","","","","","","","","","","/","","","","","","","","","","","","","","/","","","","","","/","","","","","","%","","","purdue","universtiy","","","","","","","","","/","","","","__","","__","","","/","__","","","/","","","","","","","","%","","","environmental","engineering"][0,1000,[2,17,18,53,62,101,107,119,137,146,170,173,187,205,223,259,260,263,268,294,299,313,315,329,348,369,372,373,388,400,412,428,471,514,525,547,555,595,619,667,713,734,751,752,756,760,761,775,778,782,812,895,896,908,920,946,954,955,959,984],[1,1,1,1,1,1,6,2,2,1,3,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,2,1,1,97,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: gt1706a@prism.gatech.EDU (Maureen L. Eagle) Subject: WANTED Brother P-Touch Article-I.D.: hydra.91500 Distribution: usa Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 12 As it says, I'm interested in buying one of the little label-makers, and I can't afford a new one. Anybody tired of theirs? E-mail Maureen gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu -- Maureen L. Eagle Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1706a Internet: gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu misc.forsale12["from:","gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu","(maureen","l.","eagle)","subject:","wanted","brother","p-touch","article-i.d.:","hydra.91500","distribution:","usa","organization:","georgia","institute","of","technology","lines:","12","","as","it","says,","i'm","interested","in","buying","one","of","the","little","label-makers,","and","i","can't","afford","a","new","one.","","anybody","tired","of","theirs?","","e-mail","maureen","gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu","","","--","","maureen","l.","eagle","georgia","institute","of","technology,","atlanta","georgia,","30332","uucp:","","","...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1706a","internet:","gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu"][0,1000,[25,36,44,81,83,163,170,173,176,222,245,248,259,273,275,288,299,329,333,341,343,372,388,391,395,415,426,428,445,466,470,495,514,553,571,572,582,585,593,595,644,667,710,751,774,782,833,928,970,984],[2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,4,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) Subject: Re: Emphysema question Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 14 In article <1993Apr15.180621.29465@radford.vak12ed.edu> mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich) writes: :Thanks for all your assistance. I'll see if he can try a :different brand of patches, although he's tried two brands :already. Are there more than two? The brands I can come up with off the top of my head are Nicotrol, Nicoderm and Habitrol. There may be a fourth as well. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh = = General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sci.med5["from:","kxgst1+@pitt.edu","(kenneth","gilbert)","subject:","re:","emphysema","question","organization:","university","of","pittsburgh","lines:","14","","in","article","<1993apr15.180621.29465@radford.vak12ed.edu>","mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu","(melissa","n.","matusevich)","writes:",":thanks","for","all","your","assistance.","i'll","see","if","he","can","try","a",":different","brand","of","patches,","although","he's","tried","two","brands",":already.","are","there","more","than","two?","","the","brands","i","can","come","up","with","off","the","top","of","my","head","are","nicotrol,","nicoderm","and","habitrol.","","there","may","be","a","fourth","as","well.","","","--","","=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=","=","","kenneth","gilbert","","","","","","","","","","","","","","__|__","","","","","","","","university","of","pittsburgh","","","=","=","","general","internal","medicine","","","","","","|","","","","","","\"...dammit,","not","a","programmer!\"","=","=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-="][0,1000,[0,18,36,50,64,92,113,128,136,138,159,170,173,226,231,248,261,263,273,284,295,329,333,343,372,377,388,407,408,412,428,441,445,460,470,491,497,510,514,515,520,543,556,572,612,629,650,656,666,667,694,710,719,731,751,779,795,806,808,823,831,833,840,876,880,901,916,926,947,956,964,968,974,995,997],[2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,4,40,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: zia@castle.ed.ac.uk (Zia Manji) Subject: HELP - E_Mail Address of Caere Corporation Organization: Edinburgh University Lines: 19 =============================================================================== I'm looking for the E_Mail Address of the Caere Corporation. Their Address is: CAERE CORPORATION 100 COOPER COURT LOS GATOS CALIFONIA 95030 If you know the address o have access to find it. Please could you send it to me. My E_Mail Address is: <zia@uk.ac.ed.castle> Thanking you in advance, Zia. comp.sys.mac.hardware14["from:","zia@castle.ed.ac.uk","(zia","manji)","subject:","help","-","e_mail","address","of","caere","corporation","organization:","edinburgh","university","lines:","19","","===============================================================================","","","i'm","looking","for","the","e_mail","address","of","the","caere","corporation.","","","their","address","is:","","","caere","corporation","","100","cooper","court","","los","gatos","","califonia","95030","","","if","you","know","the","address","","o","","have","access","to","find","it.","please","could","","you","send","it","to","me.","","","","","","","my","e_mail","address","is:","","","","<zia@uk.ac.ed.castle>","","","thanking","you","in","advance,","","","","zia."][0,1000,[16,36,72,79,170,213,224,235,299,315,324,334,343,347,369,372,382,388,412,425,428,438,445,495,499,500,510,514,523,537,575,586,625,667,690,698,710,713,751,779,817,841,851,864,880,885,916,925,959,991,996],[1,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,29,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) Subject: Re: Final Solution in Palestine ? In-Reply-To: ahmeda@McRCIM.McGill.EDU's message of Sun, 25 Apr 93 17:10:03 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University <1993Apr25.171003.10694@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> Lines: 81 In article <1993Apr25.171003.10694@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> ahmeda@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Ahmed Abu-Abed) writes: In article <HM.93Apr24133027@angell.cs.brown.edu>, hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) writes: |> In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: |> |> Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ? |> ------------------------------------ |> |> While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they |> repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and |> attempt to starve the Gazans. |> |> [...] |> |> The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were fighting to keep themselves and |> their families 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From: caryd@a.cs.okstate.edu (CARY DAVID ALLEN) Subject: Self-modifying hardware Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater Lines: 70 Permit me to quote fragments of praetzel@sunee.uwaterloo.ca's article out of context. -Newsgroups: sci.electronics,comp.lsi.cad -From: praetzel@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel) -Date: 10 Feb 93 15:46:41 GMT - Currently the XNF format is propierty and I know of at least on person at -a university who was able to get it after signing a non-disclosure agreement. -The Xilinx-bit map format is pretty well top secret. I would love to know it -because then you could make self_modifying_hardware ;-) As it is I had to -reverse eng. the Xilinx tools to dump the bit map to the FPGA because it only -runs on the computer with the hardware key. self-modifying hardware could be *very* interesting -- computers that could write thier own programs (assemblers, compilers) were an immense breakthrough from calculators that couldn't. 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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents? Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 15 In article <1993Apr20.101044.2291@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is >enough to do it if the vehicle exists. Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation. Of course, they may be over-optimistic. You can also assume that a working SSTO would have other applications that would help pay for its development costs. I'd be inclined to make the prize somewhat larger, but $1G might be enough. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry sci.space7["from:","henry@zoo.toronto.edu","(henry","spencer)","subject:","re:","why","not","give","$1","billion","to","first","year-long","moon","residents?","organization:","u","of","toronto","zoology","lines:","15","","in","article","<1993apr20.101044.2291@iti.org>","aws@iti.org","(allen","w.","sherzer)","writes:",">this","prize","isn't","big","enough","to","warrent","developing","a","ssto,","but","it","is",">enough","to","do","it","if","the","vehicle","exists.","","actually,","there","are","people","who","will","tell","you","that","it","*would*","be","enough","to","do","ssto","development,","if","done","privately","as","a","cut-rate","operation.","","of","course,","they","may","be","over-optimistic.","","you","can","also","assume","that","a","working","ssto","would","have","other","applications","that","would","help","pay","for","its","development","costs.","","i'd","be","inclined","to","make","the","prize","somewhat","larger,","but","$1g","might","be","enough.","--","","all","work","is","one","man's","work.","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","henry","spencer","@","u","of","toronto","zoology","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","-","kipling","","","","","","","","","","","|","","henry@zoo.toronto.edu","","utzoo!henry"][0,1000,[6,11,18,27,28,31,36,44,48,74,83,102,118,138,140,157,158,163,170,173,183,187,189,207,217,228,237,255,270,273,281,296,299,307,317,331,343,347,356,368,372,379,388,405,415,420,425,428,445,470,486,489,495,499,514,519,525,526,527,534,539,549,571,572,594,596,598,642,649,656,666,667,674,694,699,707,710,734,739,742,751,760,763,765,783,784,792,808,811,831,833,850,880,888,890,968,973,985,995,996],[1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,5,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,50,1,5,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: caldwell@facman.ohsu.edu (Larry Caldwell) Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University Lines: 29 Nntp-Posting-Host: facman kosinski@us.oracle.com (Kevin Osinski) writes: >I recall reading in Michael (?) Rutherford's novel "Sarum" a scene in >which the son of a Roman nobleman living in Britain takes part in a >secret ceremony involving a bull. He stands naked in a pit covered >with some sort of scaffolding while assistants coax a bull to stand on >the scaffolding. They then fatally stab the bull, which douses the >worshipper in the pit with blood. This is supposedly some sort of >rite of passage for members of the bull cult. I wonder if this is >related to the Mithras cult? > >I don't know where Rutherford got his information for this chapter. >The book is historical fiction, and most of the general events which >take place are largely based on historical accounts. There is a rite like this described in Joseph Campbell's _Occidenta...talk.religion.misc19["from:","caldwell@facman.ohsu.edu","(larry","caldwell)","subject:","re:","merlin,","mithras","and","magick","organization:","oregon","health","sciences","university","lines:","29","nntp-posting-host:","facman","","kosinski@us.oracle.com","(kevin","osinski)","writes:","",">i","recall","reading","in","michael","(?)","rutherford's","novel","\"sarum\"","a","scene","in",">which","the","son","of","a","roman","nobleman","living","in","britain","takes","part","in","a",">secret","ceremony","involving","a","bull.","","he","stands","naked","in","a","pit","covered",">with","some","sort","of","scaffolding","while","assistants","coax","a","bull","to","stand","on",">the","scaffolding.","","they","then","fatally","stab","the","bull,","which","douses","the",">worshipper","in","the","pit","with","blood.","","this","is","supposedly","some","sort","of",">rite","of","passage","for","members","of","the","bull","cult.","","i","wonder","if","this","is",">related","to","the","mithras","cult?",">",">i","don't","know","where","rutherford","got","his","information","for","this","chapter.",">the","book","is","historical","fiction,","and","most","of","the","general","events","which",">take","place","are","largely","based","on","historical","accounts.","","there","is","a","rite","like","this","described","in","joseph","campbell's","_occidental_mythology_.","","he","also","described","levels","of","initiation,","i","think","6?","","i","don't","know","where","campbell","got","his","info,","but","i","remember","thinking","he","was","being","a","little","eclectic.","",">i","also","wonder","what","if","any","connection","there","is","between","the","ancient","bull",">cults","and","the","current","practice","of","bullfighting","popular","in","some",">mediterranean","cultures.","","quite","a","bit.","","if","you","haven't","read","campbell,","give","him","a","try.","","","","--","","--","larry","caldwell","","caldwell@ohsu.edu","","compuserve","72210,2273","oregon","health","sciences","university.","","(503)","494-2232"][0,1000,[7,19,22,26,36,48,51,60,79,82,83,91,95,104,115,129,138,139,140,144,149,152,170,173,178,179,181,191,207,213,214,220,232,234,250,254,255,268,272,273,278,280,281,290,297,303,305,313,329,330,333,335,337,339,343,359,372,373,374,380,381,388,391,392,393,400,406,412,415,425,426,428,440,445,448,457,479,481,483,490,499,502,514,520,526,533,543,552,554,564,571,588,595,597,599,613,625,650,661,666,667,669,672,674,679,680,685,692,694,707,709,710,720,727,739,740,748,751,765,769,770,775,778,779,781,783,792,797,808,820,827,831,841,859,888,898,921,927,945,946,957,960,966,975,978,979,983,985,989,995,997],[2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,13,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,3,2,1,2,9,1,19,4,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,10,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: rdb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ronald.j.deblock..jr) Subject: Re: Ultimate AWD vehicles Organization: AT&T Distribution: usa Lines: 14 In article <20726.2bcd8b62@ecs.umass.edu> sylveste@ecs.umass.edu writes: >Before the S4 became the S4 it was called the 200 turbo quattro 20v. >This model did come in a wagon, a very quick wagon. Very rare also. > > Mike Sylvester Umass > Yes, I saw a 200 Turbo Quattro wagon on I-287 in NJ on Monday. I thought Audi stopped selling wagons in the US after the 5000. This is exactly the type of vehicle I would like to own. I bet its price is 4-5 times my car budget. -- Ron DeBlock rdb1@homxb.att.com (that's a number 1 in rdb1, not letter l) AT&T Bell Labs Somerset, NJ USA rec.autos6["from:","rdb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com","(ronald.j.deblock..jr)","subject:","re:","ultimate","awd","vehicles","organization:","at&t","distribution:","usa","lines:","14","","in","article","<20726.2bcd8b62@ecs.umass.edu>","sylveste@ecs.umass.edu","writes:",">before","the","s4","became","the","s4","it","was","called","the","200","turbo","quattro","20v.",">this","model","did","come","in","a","wagon,","a","very","quick","wagon.","","very","rare","also.",">",">","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","mike","sylvester","","umass",">","","yes,","i","saw","a","200","turbo","quattro","wagon","on","i-287","in","nj","on","monday.","","i","thought","audi","stopped","selling","wagons","in","the","us","after","the","5000.","","this","is","exactly","the","type","of","vehicle","i","would","like","to","own.","","i","bet","its","price","is","4-5","times","my","car","budget.","--","","ron","deblock","","rdb1@homxb.att.com","","(that's","a","number","1","in","rdb1,","not","letter","l)","at&t","bell","labs","","","somerset,","nj","","usa"][0,1000,[18,37,77,82,90,103,142,155,158,163,169,170,173,179,194,208,217,220,234,262,278,281,296,299,303,310,329,330,343,345,371,372,373,377,388,398,403,422,427,428,437,445,456,468,470,471,495,505,514,526,571,583,587,590,606,607,649,652,667,674,694,710,739,741,744,751,756,762,782,793,798,808,810,813,826,828,857,878,904,916,919,931,939,944,959,964,995,997],[2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,4,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,2,4,1,1,1,1,64,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: ari@tahko.lpr.carel.fi (Ari Suutari) Subject: Any graphics packages available for AIX ? Organization: Carelcomp Oy Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: tahko.lpr.carel.fi Keywords: gks graphics Does anybody know if there are any good 2d-graphics packages available for IBM RS/6000 & AIX ? I'm looking for something like DEC's GKS or Hewlett-Packards Starbase, both of which have reasonably good support for different output devices like plotters, terminals, X etc. I have tried also xgks from X11 distribution and IBM's implementation of Phigs. Both of them work but we require more output devices than just X-windows. Our salesman at IBM was not very familiar with graphics and I am not expecting for any good solutions from there. Ari --- Ari Suutari ari@carel.fi Carelcomp Oy Lappeenranta FINLAND comp.graphics13["from:","ari@tahko.lpr.carel.fi","(ari","suutari)","subject:","any","graphics","packages","available","for","aix","?","organization:","carelcomp","oy","lines:","24","nntp-posting-host:","tahko.lpr.carel.fi","keywords:","gks","graphics","","","","does","anybody","know","if","there","are","any","good","2d-graphics","packages","","available","for","ibm","rs/6000","&","aix","?","i'm","looking","for","something","","like","dec's","gks","or","hewlett-packards","starbase,","both","of","which","","have","reasonably","good","support","for","different","output","devices","","like","plotters,","terminals,","x","etc.","","","i","have","tried","also","xgks","from","x11","distribution","and","ibm's","implementation","","of","phigs.","both","of","them","work","but","we","require","more","output","devices","","than","just","x-windows.","","","our","salesman","at","ibm","was","not","very","familiar","with","graphics","and","","i","am","not","expecting","for","any","good","solutions","from","there.","","","","","ari","","---","","","ari","suutari","","","ari@carel.fi","","carelcomp","oy","","lappeenranta","","finland"][0,1000,[18,36,68,74,75,79,83,89,91,108,122,138,162,168,170,173,187,190,201,231,234,236,261,275,299,307,315,329,330,333,336,343,371,372,377,380,388,413,428,444,461,479,514,527,539,548,553,562,586,597,605,629,650,657,667,680,685,690,695,698,704,712,736,743,751,756,776,779,788,789,792,798,810,816,831,836,857,863,894,917,919,921,924,927,944,972,976,984,993],[2,5,2,2,3,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,2,26,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[0,0,2,2,0,0,0,0,31,4,0,4,2,5,0,0,0,1,0,0,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0.0392156862745098,0.0392156862745098,0,0,0,0,0.6078431372549019,0.0784313725490196,0,0.0784313725490196,0.0392156862745098,0.09803921568627451,0,0,0,0.0196078431372549,0,0,0]]8
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) Subject: Re: Let's Talk Phillies Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego Lines: 17 Nntp-Posting-Host: mbongo.ucsd.edu In article <93108.164642RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes: |> In article <1993Apr17.020347.9554@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com>, |> prg@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com (Phil Gunsul) says: ... |> ps: hey kids, take all those pictures of dead presidents out of your |> parents' wallets and mail them to: |> |> bob vesterman |> And send him a shift key too... -- Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029 rec.sport.baseball3["from:","demers@cs.ucsd.edu","(david","demers)","subject:","re:","let's","talk","phillies","organization:","cse","dept.,","uc","san","diego","lines:","17","nntp-posting-host:","mbongo.ucsd.edu","","","in","article","<93108.164642rvesterm@vma.cc.nd.edu>,","rvesterm@vma.cc.nd.edu","writes:","|>","in","article","<1993apr17.020347.9554@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com>,","|>","prg@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com","(phil","gunsul)","says:","...","|>","ps:","hey","kids,","take","all","those","pictures","of","dead","presidents","out","of","your","|>","parents'","wallets","and","mail","them","to:","|>","","|>","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","bob","vesterman","|>","","and","send","him","a","shift","key","too...","--","","dave","demers","","","","","","","","","","","","","demers@cs.ucsd.edu","computer","science","&","engineering","0114","","demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet","uc","san","diego","","","","","...!ucsd!cs!demers","la","jolla,","ca","92093-0114","(619)","534-0688,","or","-8187,","fax:","(619)","534-7029"][0,1000,[10,12,79,151,170,171,173,187,193,263,269,294,315,333,342,343,348,355,362,367,370,372,394,395,428,430,438,445,469,470,482,496,512,514,523,527,541,547,550,562,582,584,587,589,600,613,654,662,667,676,697,699,700,713,714,726,751,760,761,767,785,786,808,812,817,848,855,857,924,925,968,989,995],[1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,37,2,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: nestor+@cs.cmu.edu (Nestor F Michelena) Subject: HELP!!: 0300FF error at power-up a Mac Plus Nntp-Posting-Host: nestor.cimds.ri.cmu.edu Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 7 I'm getting a sad Mac icon on a black screen with the error code 0300FF. Could someone please tell me what's wrong? Memory? Thanks a lot. I'd appreciate it infinitely... Nestor Michelena comp.sys.mac.hardware14["from:","nestor+@cs.cmu.edu","(nestor","f","michelena)","subject:","help!!:","","0300ff","error","at","power-up","a","mac","plus","nntp-posting-host:","nestor.cimds.ri.cmu.edu","organization:","school","of","computer","science,","carnegie","mellon","lines:","7","","i'm","getting","a","sad","mac","icon","on","a","black","screen","with","the","error","code","0300ff.","could","someone","please","tell","me","what's","wrong?","","memory?","","","thanks","a","lot.","i'd","appreciate","it","infinitely...","","nestor","michelena"][0,1000,[3,10,47,68,79,82,132,149,151,170,200,212,213,230,239,248,333,340,343,355,372,378,388,420,428,447,471,495,514,519,544,555,580,587,646,650,667,684,710,724,750,751,756,771,790,814,841,850,860,871,910],[1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,6,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) Subject: Re: Alaska Pipeline and Space Station! Organization: Texas Instruments Inc Lines: 45 In <1pq7rj$q2u@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: >In article <1993Apr5.160550.7592@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: >| >|I think this would be a great way to build it, but unfortunately >|current spending rules don't permit it to be workable. For this to >|work it would be necessary for the government to guarantee a certain >|minimum amount of business in order to sufficiently reduce the risk >|enough to make this attractive to a private firm. Since they >|generally can't allocate money except one year at a time, the >|government can't provide such a tenant guarantee. >Fred. > Try reading a bit. THe government does lots of multi year >contracts with Penalty for cancellation clauses. They just like to be >damn sure they know what they are doing before they sign a 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From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series Nntp-Posting-Host: ug.cs.dal.ca Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada Distribution: na Lines: 38 In <1993Apr15.123803.4618@webo.dg.com> lyford@dagny.webo.dg.com (Lyford Beverage) writes: >In article <1993Apr13.202037.9485@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes: >|> In article <rudyC5Fr3q.1CL@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy Wade) writes: >|> >In article <C5FMxD.2pM@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) writes: >|> >>reference to history because he certainly didn't have the best season for >|> >>second basemen in history. He probably didn't even have as good a season as >|> >>Alomar last year. >|> > >|> >What? Do you have some measure (like popularity in Toronto doesn't count) >|> >that you are basing this statement on? >|> >|> Uh, yes. 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From: turmoil@halcyon.com (Tim Crowley) Subject: Re: WACO: Clinton press conference, part 1 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston) writes: >Could y'all PLEASE stop posting this stuff to tx.general. tx.politics >is sufficient and is where this stuff belongs. Thanks. > Cathy >-- >Cathy Foulston + Rice University + Network & Systems Support + cathyf@rice.edu WHY?????????? talk.politics.guns16["from:","turmoil@halcyon.com","(tim","crowley)","subject:","re:","waco:","clinton","press","conference,","part","1","organization:","northwest","nexus","inc.","lines:","13","nntp-posting-host:","nwfocus.wa.com","","cathyf@is.rice.edu","(catherine","anne","foulston)","writes:","",">could","y'all","please","stop","posting","this","stuff","to","tx.general.","","tx.politics",">is","sufficient","and","is","where","this","stuff","belongs.","","thanks.","",">","cathy",">--","",">cathy","foulston","+","rice","university","+","network","&","systems","support","+","cathyf@rice.edu","","why??????????"][0,1000,[11,52,74,79,84,93,98,131,139,162,179,192,194,195,280,281,323,333,339,346,350,372,373,375,388,402,412,428,431,503,514,549,562,638,639,667,682,686,695,740,744,751,796,808,812,825,830,841,901,942,950,964,987,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: ianf@random.se (Ian Feldman, The Other Internet Worm[tm]) <1omb6fINNm7s@lynx.unm.edu> <a7d56e52@random.se> Content-Type: setext/plain; charset=ascii_827 Organization: random design -- "Opinions, cheaply" Lines: 138 Summary: formatted as two 69-line pages (use a monospaced font!) 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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx Article-I.D.: qualcom.rdippold.735042679 Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA Lines: 11 Originator: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com Nntp-Posting-Host: qualcom.qualcomm.com jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse) writes: >Oh great. Wonderful news. Nobody can listen in--except the feds. And anybody who can get the keys from the escrow company. This is a database that's going to take plenty of updating - they think they can keep it secure? Please... and that's just primary, not secondary sources, such as police using the key under a warrant. Would anyone be surprised if they just "neglected" to erase the key if it turned out they couldn't nail you on anything? -- Nourish a waif and it will pick out your eyes. sci.crypt4["from:","rdippold@qualcomm.com","(ron","\"asbestos\"","dippold)","subject:","re:","secret","algorithm","[re:","clipper","chip","and","crypto","key-escrow]","keywords:","encryption,","wiretap,","clipper,","key-escrow,","mykotronx","article-i.d.:","qualcom.rdippold.735042679","organization:","qualcomm,","inc.,","san","diego,","ca","lines:","11","originator:","rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com","nntp-posting-host:","qualcom.qualcomm.com","","jhesse@netcom.com","(john","hesse)","writes:",">oh","great.","wonderful","news.","nobody","can","listen","in--except","the","feds.","","and","anybody","who","can","get","the","keys","from","the","escrow","company.","","this","is","a","database","that's","going","to","take","plenty","of","updating","-","they","think","they","can","keep","it","secure?","","please...","","and","that's","just","primary,","not","secondary","sources,","such","as","police","using","the","key","under","a","warrant.","","would","anyone","be","surprised","if","they","just","\"neglected\"","to","erase","the","key","if","it","turned","out","they","couldn't","nail","you","on","anything?","--","","nourish","a","waif","and","it","will","pick","out","your","eyes."][0,1000,[8,12,18,39,44,45,48,49,62,70,77,79,81,82,83,103,104,138,141,160,163,170,173,185,204,209,212,215,217,219,220,222,242,263,272,275,281,307,317,323,330,333,337,343,346,355,361,372,373,379,380,385,388,395,400,420,425,428,451,457,493,495,499,514,520,536,542,564,567,572,589,594,610,614,624,654,656,667,684,699,710,713,714,743,751,781,808,811,833,834,838,844,853,855,858,879,909,921,930,938,959,961,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,8,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: Re: The systematic genocide of the Muslim population by the Armenians. Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 226 In article <1993Apr5.091410.4108@massey.ac.nz> CBlack@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black) writes: >Mr. Furr does it again, Very sensible. > He says >>>How many Mutlus can dance on the head of a pin? >And lo and behold, he invokes the Mr.666 of the net himself, our beloved >Serdar, a program designed to seek out the words TERRX and GHEX in the >same sentence and gets the automated reply.... Must you rave so? Fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government engaged in disgusting cowardly massacres of Azeri women and children. I am really sorry if that fact bothers you. >>Our "Mutlu"? Oboy, this is exciting. First you discuss your literature >>tastes, then your fantasies, and now your choices of entertainment. 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From: dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu (Dennis Kennedy) Subject: '72 Chevelle SS forsale Organization: University of Oregon Lines: 11 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: fp2-cc-25.uoregon.edu I don't want to sell this car, but I need money for college. 1972 Chevelle Super Sport Rebuilt 402, four speed, 12 Bolt positrac Numbers match 110,000 original miles no rust Looks and runs excellent $5995 or best offer. Call Dennis at (503)343-3759 or email dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu rec.autos6["from:","dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu","(dennis","kennedy)","subject:","'72","chevelle","ss","forsale","organization:","university","of","oregon","lines:","11","distribution:","usa","nntp-posting-host:","fp2-cc-25.uoregon.edu","","i","don't","want","to","sell","this","car,","but","i","need","money","for","college.","1972","chevelle","super","sport","rebuilt","402,","four","speed,","12","bolt","positrac","numbers","match","110,000","original","miles","no","rust","looks","and","runs","excellent","$5995","or","best","offer.","call","dennis","at","(503)343-3759","or","email","dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu"][0,1000,[17,36,37,78,79,83,90,96,121,146,149,164,173,187,237,242,243,268,278,286,299,320,329,333,343,346,372,373,378,388,404,412,417,426,428,472,485,500,514,534,537,548,578,579,581,623,633,643,659,667,712,751,756,763,782,811,818,895,951,970,974],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: tgl+@cs.cmu.edu (Tom Lane) Subject: JPEG image compression: Frequently Asked Questions Summary: Useful info about JPEG (JPG) image files and programs Keywords: JPEG, image compression, FAQ Supersedes: <jpeg-faq_733898461@g.gp.cs.cmu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: g.gp.cs.cmu.edu Reply-To: jpeg-info@uunet.uu.net Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Expires: Sun, 16 May 1993 21:39:30 GMT Lines: 1027 Archive-name: jpeg-faq Last-modified: 18 April 1993 This FAQ article discusses JPEG image compression. Suggestions for additions and clarifications are welcome. New since version of 3 April 1993: * New versions of Image Archiver and PMJPEG for OS/2. This article includes the following sections: [1] What is JPEG? [2] Why use JPEG? [3] When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF? [4] How well does JPEG compress images? [5] What are good "quality" settings for JPEG? [6] Where can I get JPEG software? 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From: kastle@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Jacques W Brouillette) Subject: Re: ARCTIC WHEELS AUTO SHOW Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: bernoulli.wpi.edu -- : I want only two things from this world, a 58 Plymouth and a small : : OPEC nation with which to fuel it. This would be a good and just : : thing. Car Smashers can just go home and sulk. : : Jacques Brouillette --- Manufacturing Engineering : rec.autos6["from:","kastle@bernoulli.wpi.edu","(jacques","w","brouillette)","subject:","re:","arctic","wheels","auto","show","organization:","worcester","polytechnic","institute","lines:","5","nntp-posting-host:","bernoulli.wpi.edu","","--","","",":","i","want","only","two","things","from","this","world,","a","58","plymouth","and","a","small","",":","","",":","opec","nation","with","which","to","fuel","it.","","this","would","be","a","good","and","just","",":","",":","thing.","","car","smashers","can","just","go","home","and","sulk.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","",":","",":","","","","","","","","jacques","brouillette","---","","manufacturing","engineering","","","","","","","","","",":"][0,1000,[19,63,70,77,79,88,90,115,163,168,170,173,190,288,307,317,329,333,334,365,372,373,388,408,428,434,514,597,616,647,650,653,656,667,671,712,742,751,761,801,807,808,816,821,833,839,849,851,894,899,903,904,915,921,926,939],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,48,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,8,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: RYLV80@waccvm.corp.mot.com (William Mohrman) Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding Organization: Motorola Nntp-Posting-Host: waccvm.corp.mot.com Lines: 43 > > What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? Couple hours after >you "feel" sober? What? Or should I just work with "If I drink tonight, I >don't ride until tomorrow"? This thread brings back memorys of an expensive day in traffic court a few years ago. While I was waiting my turn to state my case and plea of why I was going 75 in a 55 in my cage, I had the opportunity to listen to some of the "creative excuses" offered the judge by others. After listening to a number of "Well, I was passing a very slow truck that suddenly speed up" versions, I decided that the judge had heard just about every story in the book and then some. He was less than impressed with any of them. This young, rather burley looking guy, had his docket read by a rather drill sargent looking Ohio State Highyway Patrol Trooper. 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From: s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Lost Cause) Subject: Connection Machine Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au Hiya all, I realise this has little to do with pc's but it does have a lot to do with hardware.... So, has nay of you heard of a computer called the Connection Machine. If so, could you e-mail me any and all info you have, eg- references, ideas etc. All help is appreciated. Caviar Dreams L.Cause -- +----s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU---Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology---+ | _/ "Music is like directing sounds theatrically, moulding them into | | _/_/ landscapes.. I wanted to link my music to places, architectural | | _/_/_/ environments and visual techniques." - J.M.Jarre | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au","(lost","cause)","subject:","connection","machine","organization:","royal","melbourne","institute","of","technology","lines:","19","nntp-posting-host:","minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au","","hiya","all,","","","","i","realise","this","has","little","to","do","with","pc's","but","it","does","have","a","lot","to","do","","with","hardware....","","","so,","has","nay","of","you","heard","of","a","computer","called","the","connection","machine.","","if","so,","could","you","e-mail","me","any","and","all","info","you","have,","","eg-","references,","ideas","etc.","","","all","help","is","appreciated.","","","","","caviar","dreams","","l.cause","","--","","+----s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au---royal","melbourne","institute","of","technology---+","|","","","","_/","","","\"music","is","like","directing","sounds","theatrically,","moulding","them","into","","","","|","|","","","_/_/","","","landscapes..","i","wanted","to","link","my","music","to","places,","architectural","","","","|","|","","_/_/_/","","environments","and","visual","techniques.\"","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","-","j.m.jarre","","","","|"][0,1000,[30,32,36,66,70,79,83,91,99,103,151,161,170,173,213,219,237,256,257,281,288,299,323,329,330,333,343,347,348,350,357,359,372,373,378,388,391,395,398,425,428,442,467,471,478,495,499,501,508,514,534,547,550,564,580,593,650,667,694,698,701,710,723,731,735,738,744,749,751,799,811,816,824,852,885,891,902,916,924,927,941,954,957,968,980,994],[2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,2,2,4,1,2,1,1,1,53,1,1,4,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) Subject: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart..." Organization: Educational Computing Network Lines: 59 Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience. The meaning of my existence is a question I ask myself daily. I live in fear of what will happen when I die. I bet some of you are licking your lips now, because you think that I'm a person on the edge of accepting jeezus. I was raised in a religious atmosphere, and attended 13 years of religious educational institutions.. I know the bible well. So well I can recognize many passages from memory. <<****Strong opinions start here...****>> 1) The human being is an _animal_ who has, due to his/her advanced mental facilities, developed religious as a satisfiable solution to explain the unexplainable. 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Export Trained Model directly in Spark

// Now we can optionally save the fitted pipeline to disk
model.write.overwrite().save("/tmp/spark-saved-model")

Let's load it back in.

// And load it back in during production
val sparkSavedModelLoaded = PipelineModel.load("/tmp/spark-saved-model")
sparkSavedModelLoaded: org.apache.spark.ml.PipelineModel = pipeline_1d778a1961fa

Let's predict with test data.

val test_df = spark.read.parquet("/databricks-datasets/news20.binary/data-001/test")
  .select("text", "topic")
test_df.cache()
//display(test_df)

display(sparkSavedModelLoaded.transform(test_df))
From: marshall@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin Marshall) Subject: Re: Faith and Dogma Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA Lines: 96 NNTP-Posting-Host: csugrad.cs.vt.edu tgk@cs.toronto.edu (Todd Kelley) writes: >In light of what happened in Waco, I need to get something of my >chest. > >Faith and dogma are dangerous. > >Religion inherently encourages the implementation of faith and dogma, and >for that reason, I scorn religion. I don't necessarily disagree with your assertion, but I disagree with your reasoning. (Faith = Bad. Dogma = Bad. Religion -> (Faith ^ Dogma). Religion -> (Bad ^ Bad). Religion -> Bad.) Unfortunately, you never state why faith and dogma are dangerous. If you believe faith and dogma are dangerous because of what happened in Waco, you are missing the point. The Branch Davidians made the mistake of confusing the message with the messenger. They believed Koresh was a prophet, and therefore believed everything he said. 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From: benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA ) Subject: Update on Saudi crackdown on human rights league. Keywords: international, non-usa government, government, civil rights, social issues Nntp-Posting-Host: alcor.concordia.ca Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Canada Lines: 61 clarinews@clarinet.com (BAHAA ELKOUSSY) writes: UPI, and the newspapers who are reporting this being all owned by Saudis I wonder how secure they are feeling by reporting all of these things, maybe Saudi Arabia is allowed to have all the human rights violations it can have, nobody is including them in any list,.. those are designed for independent states. > CAIRO, Egypt (UPI) -- The Saudi government ordered the firing and why is this reported from Cairo? >disbarment of six Saudi human rights activists one week after they >formed the country's first human rights group, which has been condemned >by the kingdom's highest religious authorities, Saudi media reported >Friday. > Two 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From: jennyb@carina.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann) Subject: Re: Another request for Darwin Fish Organization: Cursed Female Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu Darwin fish can be bought from: -- "JOIN THE DARWINNERS (TM) Send $6 to receive your official Evolving Fish.. wherever you want to spread the good news! Darwinners, 6671 Sunset Blvd., Ste. 1525, L.A.,CA 90028 THE GREATEST THEORY EVER TOLD!" Jenny -- Forty years from now nursing homes will be filled with demented hackers, studying their blank laptop screens nicely placed on knitted quilts to keep their knees warm. -K. Mitchum alt.atheism17["from:","jennyb@carina.unm.edu","(jenny","ballmann)","subject:","re:","another","request","for","darwin","fish","organization:","cursed","female","lines:","11","nntp-posting-host:","carina.unm.edu","","darwin","fish","can","be","bought","from:","--","\"join","the","darwinners","(tm)","send","$6","to","receive","your","official","evolving","fish..","","wherever","you","want","to","spread","the","good","news!","","darwinners,","6671","sunset","blvd.,","ste.","1525,","l.a.,ca","90028","the","greatest","theory","ever","told!\"","","jenny","--","","forty","years","from","now","nursing","homes","will","be","filled","with","demented","hackers,","","studying","their","blank","laptop","screens","nicely","placed","on","knitted","quilts","","to","keep","their","knees","warm.","","-k.","mitchum"][0,1000,[36,79,82,84,87,92,98,168,171,173,196,201,232,235,261,263,293,303,317,372,373,376,383,388,394,395,409,411,414,420,425,428,439,466,475,485,488,508,514,520,523,524,547,563,576,578,580,594,650,656,662,665,667,710,712,733,751,779,808,811,833,854,867,872,886,905,921,927,937,941,956,977,994,996,997],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,2,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: sinn@carson.u.washington.edu (Philip Sinn) Subject: ET4000/W32 chip graphics accelerator. Summary: 10Mpixel/sec Winmark 3.11 at 800x600 256 colours Keywords: winmark, accelerator, chip, Hint Article-I.D.: shelley.1r9r5rINNps6 Distribution: world Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu I got a ET4000/W32 card which is made by Cardex yesterday and ran a winmark test on it. The card is a VL-BUS card which can display 16.7 million colours in 640x480 mode with 1MB DRAM. It comes with ET4000/W32 window drivers and a normal Et4000 drivers. The ET4000/W32 drivers handles, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x786 in 256 colours. Also, in 640x480 and 800x600, it supports hicolor, 32K and 64K colours. Here is my winmark result running on a 16MB 486DX33 EISA/VL-BUS system using Hint chipsets. Winmark 3.11 from ZD lab. Using ET4000/W32 drivers 640x480 256 10.63 megapixel/sec. 32k 7.34 64k 7.30 800x600 256...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","sinn@carson.u.washington.edu","(philip","sinn)","subject:","et4000/w32","chip","graphics","accelerator.","summary:","10mpixel/sec","winmark","3.11","at","800x600","256","colours","keywords:","winmark,","accelerator,","chip,","hint","article-i.d.:","shelley.1r9r5rinnps6","distribution:","world","organization:","university","of","washington,","seattle","lines:","43","nntp-posting-host:","carson.u.washington.edu","","i","got","a","et4000/w32","card","which","is","made","by","cardex","yesterday","and","ran","a","winmark","test","on","it.","the","card","is","a","vl-bus","card","which","can","display","16.7","million","colours","in","640x480","mode","with","1mb","dram.","","it","comes","with","et4000/w32","window","drivers","and","a","normal","et4000","drivers.","the","et4000/w32","drivers","handles,","640x480,","800x600,","1024x786","in","256","colours.","also,","in","640x480","and","800x600,","it","supports","hicolor,","32k","and","64k","colours.","","here","is","my","winmark","result","running","on","a","16mb","486dx33","eisa/vl-bus","system","using","hint","chipsets.","","winmark","3.11","from","zd","lab.","","using","et4000/w32","drivers","640x480","256","","","","","","","10.63","megapixel/sec.","","","","","","","","","32k","","","","","","","","7.34","","","","","","","","","","64k","","","","","","","","7.30","800x600","256","","","","","","","10.07","","","","","","","","","32k","","","","","","","","6.38","","","","","","","","","64k","","","","","","","","6.35","1kx786","","256","","","","","","","","8.17","","using","et4000","drivers.","640x480","16m","","","","","","","","1.78","800x600","","16colours","4.01","","","","","","1kx786","","","16","","","","","","","","4.22","","from","the","result,","the","et4000/w32","drivers","are","specialized","to","use","the","hardware","feature","of","the","et4000/w32","chip","whereas","the","et4000","drivers","are","just","normal","driver","for","et4000","based","graphics","card.","","the","price","of","this","graphics","card","that","i","got","is","$185","from","a","local","dealer.","it","may","be","less","from","mail","order.","it","has","os/2","2.0","drivers","comes","with","it","which","supports","256","colors","on","all","resolution.","","from","these","results,","it","has","double","the","performance","of","a","et4000ax","based","card","in","256","colours","mode.","","","philip","sinn","sinn@carson.u.washington.edu","university","of","washington","*","it","is","all","my","opinions","*"][0,1000,[7,8,15,34,36,47,51,52,56,75,79,82,83,96,100,103,135,136,138,139,141,144,146,150,151,170,171,195,223,247,259,273,281,292,299,300,307,308,313,314,318,320,329,333,334,343,344,358,368,372,373,385,388,399,400,412,428,430,445,448,449,451,461,472,483,488,489,495,508,511,514,521,534,541,548,554,574,580,586,593,597,608,609,624,625,631,633,639,646,649,650,656,666,667,675,686,699,709,710,712,736,738,743,751,756,757,758,759,760,775,788,820,823,833,834,836,855,860,865,866,879,880,885,890,904,908,916,921,939,942,943,960,963,968,972,975,983,994,995,998,999],[2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,5,1,2,1,7,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,5,1,2,1,114,1,4,1,1,2,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,4,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,9,1,1,7,1,2,1,3,1,2,5,1,1,1,6,1,2,2,1,3,2,2,4,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
Nntp-Posting-Host: fac-csr.byu.edu Lines: 33 From: ecktons@ucs.byu.edu (Sean Eckton) Subject: Re: Why is my mouse so JUMPY? (MS MOUSE) Organization: Fine Arts and Communications -- Brigham Young University Distribution: world My original post: >Subject: Re: Why is my mouse so JUMPY? (MS MOUSE) >> I have a Microsoft Serial Mouse and am using mouse.com 8.00 (was using 8.20 >> I think, but switched to 8.00 to see if it was any better). Vertical motion >> is nice and smooth, but horizontal motion is so bad I sometimes can't click >> on something because my mouse jumps around. I can be moving the mouse to >> the right with relatively uniform motion and the mouse will move smoothly >> for a bit, then jump to the right, then move smoothly for a bit then jump >> again (maybe this time to the left about .5 inch!). This is crazy! I have >> never had so much trouble with a mouse before. Anyone have any solutions? Aha, I think I found the problem and it isn't dirt! Another guy h...comp.os.ms-windows.misc9["nntp-posting-host:","fac-csr.byu.edu","lines:","33","from:","ecktons@ucs.byu.edu","(sean","eckton)","subject:","re:","why","is","my","mouse","so","jumpy?","","(ms","mouse)","organization:","fine","arts","and","communications","--","brigham","young","university","distribution:","world","","my","original","post:",">subject:","re:","why","is","my","mouse","so","jumpy?","","(ms","mouse)",">>","i","have","a","microsoft","serial","mouse","and","am","using","mouse.com","8.00","(was","using","8.20","",">>","i","think,","but","switched","to","8.00","to","see","if","it","was","any","better).","","vertical","motion","",">>","is","nice","and","smooth,","but","horizontal","motion","is","so","bad","i","sometimes","can't","click","",">>","on","something","because","my","mouse","jumps","around.","","i","can","be","moving","the","mouse","to","",">>","the","right","with","relatively","uniform","motion","and","the","mouse","will","move","smoothly","",">>","for","a","bit,","then","jump","to","the","right,","then","move","smoothly","for","a","bit","then","jump","",">>","again","(maybe","this","time","to","the","left","about",".5","inch!).","","this","is","crazy!","","i","have","",">>","never","had","so","much","trouble","with","a","mouse","before.","","anyone","have","any","solutions?","","","","aha,","i","think","i","found","the","problem","and","it","isn't","dirt!","","another","guy","here","was","","using","a","different","kind","of","mouse","and","was","using","640x400x16","video","driver","(the","","default","vga","for","windows).","","he","has","an","s3","localbus","card","like","i","do","and","when","i","","loaded","the","s3","video","driver","in","windows","for","him,","his","mouse","became","jumpy","too.","","","seems","like","it","is","the","s3","driver!","","is","there","any","newer","one","than","version","1.4","","that","would","solve","this","problem?","","it","is","really","bad.","","i","have","to","use","the","","keyboard","instead","sometimes!","","the","s3-w31.zip","on","cica","is","version","1.4","(which","is","","the","same","version","that","came","with","my","card).","","","---","sean","eckton","computer","support","representative","college","of","fine","arts","and","communications","","d-406","hfac","brigham","young","university","provo,","ut","","84602","(801)378-3292","","hfac_csr@byu.edu","ecktons@ucs.byu.edu"][0,1000,[2,30,36,44,49,57,67,76,78,79,82,83,86,89,91,101,115,121,123,126,135,144,150,151,157,159,163,167,170,173,175,177,191,199,209,234,236,248,261,281,282,299,304,307,310,316,320,329,330,333,336,339,341,343,347,368,370,372,373,380,381,388,394,398,408,409,411,412,420,421,422,425,428,431,441,445,446,453,464,465,487,489,495,497,509,513,514,515,518,524,525,526,529,532,534,545,553,564,574,580,592,598,613,616,624,630,642,650,656,662,665,667,695,699,703,710,719,747,751,752,760,765,776,777,779,780,789,798,808,811,816,817,824,826,831,833,837,848,853,863,873,876,882,894,903,904,916,935,939,943,955,963,965,973,986,991,995,997,998],[1,1,4,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,2,1,1,1,2,1,3,2,1,1,10,3,5,1,1,2,1,2,10,2,8,2,1,3,2,1,4,1,37,3,1,4,6,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,9,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,8,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,11,1,1,2,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: theo@walt.caps.maine.edu (Theo M. Alpert) Subject: Data Paging Info WANTED Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Hello, I'm looking for information on Alphanumeric pagers and *how* the data is sent from the paging transmitter and how I would go about building a device to decode the paging data (like my pager does) and feed it though an RS232 port. I'm planning on seperating different paging messages and different pagers in software to keep amount of hardware I need down.... Does anyone know what chips (Motorola?) are good for decoding Numeric and Alphanumeric paging data (and then stuffing it down an RS232 port (basically any baud rate is fine!) ? (I already have a radio reciever with headphone level output for the audio signal from the paging tower, but I'd be interested in anything you know about pagers, including the type of radio recievers they use!) Thanks in advance! -theo EMAIL = th...sci.electronics10["from:","theo@walt.caps.maine.edu","(theo","m.","alpert)","subject:","data","paging","info","wanted","organization:","utexas","mail-to-news","gateway","lines:","19","nntp-posting-host:","cs.utexas.edu","","","","","","","","","","","hello,","i'm","looking","for","information","on","alphanumeric","pagers","","and","*how*","the","data","is","sent","from","the","paging","transmitter","and","how","","i","would","go","about","building","a","device","to","decode","the","paging","data","","(like","my","pager","does)","and","feed","it","though","an","rs232","port.","","","","","i'm","planning","on","seperating","different","paging","messages","and","","different","pagers","in","software","to","keep","amount","of","hardware","i","need","","down....","","does","anyone","know","what","chips","(motorola?)","are","good","for","","decoding","numeric","and","alphanumeric","paging","data","(and","then","stuffing","it","down","an","rs232","port","(basically","any","baud","rate","is","fine!)","?","","","","","","(i","already","have","a","radio","reciever","with","headphone","level","","output","for","the","audio","signal","from","the","paging","tower,","but","i'd","be","","interested","in","anything","you","know","about","pagers,","including","the","","type","of","radio","recievers","they","use!)","","","","","thanks","in","advance!","","","","","","","","","","","","","-theo","email","=","theo@walt.caps.maine.edu"][0,1000,[31,36,48,57,66,76,77,79,82,83,89,91,106,108,113,114,117,122,135,138,163,168,170,184,185,189,202,209,217,219,230,236,237,253,257,268,281,283,299,303,315,321,329,333,343,372,381,388,395,404,407,413,425,428,445,451,458,477,489,495,511,514,519,526,537,548,558,579,594,605,610,611,612,622,629,643,650,656,667,679,695,698,703,710,732,744,748,751,752,777,779,789,812,822,852,856,885,895,906,916,921,954,962,969,970,976,978,980,984],[1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,5,2,45,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,5,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,6,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall) Subject: Re: Homosexuality issues in Christiani Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA Lines: 32 The cited passages are covered IN DEPTH in a FAQ for this group. That particular FAQ (I've forgotten the author) discusses the traditional vs. pro-homosexual interpretations of the passages and indicates which points have strong textual support. Perhaps the moderator might give again the instructions for retrieving the FAQ on this topic? BTW, this issue, while dealt with before, is VERY timely. One of the major Presbyterian churches in California (St. Andrews -- a MegaChurch in a rich neighborhood) is withholding their support of Synod (amounts to about 10% of the budget of the Synod, which covers all of Southern CA and Hawaii) until support for a pro-homosexual lobbying group (the Lazarus Project) is terminated. [This came from a news report on CNN yesterday -- corrections welcome.] Tim [I think it's time for me ...soc.religion.christian1["from:","shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil","(timothy","shimeall)","subject:","re:","homosexuality","issues","in","christiani","organization:","naval","postgraduate","school,","monterey","ca","lines:","32","","the","cited","passages","are","covered","in","depth","in","a","faq","for","this","group.","that","particular","faq","(i've","forgotten","the","author)","discusses","the","traditional","vs.","pro-homosexual","interpretations","of","the","passages","and","indicates","which","points","have","strong","textual","support.","","perhaps","the","moderator","might","give","again","the","instructions","for","retrieving","the","faq","on","this","topic?","","btw,","this","issue,","while","dealt","with","before,","is","very","timely.","","one","of","the","major","presbyterian","churches","in","california","(st.","andrews","--","a","","megachurch","in","a","rich","neighborhood)","is","withholding","their","support","of","","synod","(amounts","to","about","10%","of","the","budget","of","the","synod,","which","","covers","all","of","southern","ca","and","hawaii)","until","support","for","a","","pro-homosexual","lobbying","group","(the","lazarus","project)","is","terminated.","[this","came","from","a","news","report","on","cnn","yesterday","--","corrections","welcome.]","","","","","","tim","","[i","think","it's","time","for","me","to","post","the","faq.","","","","this","is","an","issue","throughout","the","presbyterian","church.","","on","the","other","side,","one","of","the","major","churches","in","cincinnati","has","been","ordaining","homosexual","elders,","and","has","ignored","presbytery","instructions","not","to","do","so.","","and","the","church","in","rochester","where","the","judicial","commission","said","they","couldn't","install","a","homosexual","pastor","has","made","her","an","\"evangelist\".","","these","situations,","as","well","as","the","one","you","describe,","do","not","appear","to","be","stable.","","this","will","certainly","be","a","major","topic","for","the","general","assembly","next","month.","","if","the","church","can't","come","up","with","a","solution","that","will","let","people","live","with","each","other,","i","think","we're","end","up","with","a","split.","","clearly","neither","side","wants","that,","but","i","think","we'll","get","pushed","into","it","by","actions","of","both","sides.","","--clh]"][0,1000,[17,18,22,26,36,37,43,44,48,49,52,57,62,65,82,83,85,89,93,97,102,103,128,138,139,140,141,144,145,146,151,157,164,168,170,173,197,212,214,223,228,233,235,248,251,256,259,263,273,280,281,284,286,293,296,299,311,312,320,326,329,333,343,344,356,358,359,361,366,372,373,375,383,388,391,414,417,420,425,428,431,433,436,437,445,449,461,471,475,478,486,487,493,495,512,514,515,520,531,534,535,541,551,564,571,572,579,580,583,589,596,597,607,621,633,638,640,646,650,656,659,667,674,688,690,695,697,705,706,707,710,713,720,743,745,748,751,752,757,760,764,777,778,780,781,783,790,808,819,825,827,830,848,856,863,864,878,885,889,891,921,925,933,939,941,942,944,959,964,967,968,973,978,979,985,994,997],[1,2,1,1,6,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,10,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,4,8,1,1,2,1,1,1,24,5,1,1,4,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,2,1,7,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,2,2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,19,2,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[0,82,2,1,0,1,0,1,1,2,1,0,1,0,0,3,2,8,2,11,0]][1,21,[],[0,0.6949152542372882,0.01694915254237288,0.00847457627118644,0,0.00847457627118644,0,0.00847457627118644,0.00847457627118644,0.01694915254237288,0.00847457627118644,0,0.00847457627118644,0,0,0.025423728813559324,0.01694915254237288,0.06779661016949153,0.01694915254237288,0.09322033898305085,0]]1
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: Re: BALTIC states and "realism" and 'virvir' drivel Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 127 In article <1sv6r1$f0m@zip.eecs.umich.edu> sechrest@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Stuart Sechrest) writes: >> Memoirs of an Armenian Army Officer translated to English and >> published by a member of American "Near East Relief Organization." >> Gives the whole account of the genocide of all Turkish and Moslem >> people in Armenia organized and executed by Armenian Government and >> Army. Also gives account of countless other massacres and atrocities >> against the Turkish people in Armenia. >Actually, it is Leonard *R as in Ramsden* Hartill. Ditto. Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). 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From: abdkw@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Ward) Subject: Re: Gamma Ray Bursters. Where are they? News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1 Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center - Robotics Lab Lines: 27 In article <1993Apr26.141114.19777@midway.uchicago.edu>, pef1@midway.uchicago.edu writes... >BATSE, by having 8 detectors of its own, can do its own location determination, >but only to within about 3 degrees (would someone at GSFC, like David, like >to comment on the current state of location determination?). Having inde- >pendent sightings by other detectors helps drive down the uncertainty. > Well, I'll avoid your question for now (got some learnin' to do) with a promise to come back with more info when I can find it. I _do_ know that BATSE is the primary instrument in the development of the all-sky map of long-term sources. Given that fact, and the spacecraft attitude knowledge of approx. 2 arcmin, we might be able to figure out how well BATSE can determine the location (rotation...sci.space7["from:","abdkw@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov","(david","ward)","subject:","re:","gamma","ray","bursters.","where","are","they?","news-software:","vax/vms","vnews","1.4-b1","","","organization:","goddard","space","flight","center","-","robotics","lab","lines:","27","","in","article","<1993apr26.141114.19777@midway.uchicago.edu>,","pef1@midway.uchicago.edu","writes...",">batse,","by","having","8","detectors","of","its","own,","can","do","its","own","location","determination,",">but","only","to","within","about","3","degrees","(would","someone","at","gsfc,","like","david,","like",">to","comment","on","the","current","state","of","location","determination?).","","having","inde-",">pendent","sightings","by","other","detectors","helps","drive","down","the","uncertainty.",">","","","well,","i'll","avoid","your","question","for","now","(got","some","learnin'","to","do)","with","a","promise","to","come","back","with","more","info","when","i","can","find","it.","","i","_do_","know","that","batse","is","the","primary","instrument","in","the","development","of","the","all-sky","map","of","long-term","sources.","","given","that","fact,","and","the","spacecraft","attitude","knowledge","of","approx.","2","arcmin,","we","might","be","able","to","figure","out","how","well","batse","can","determine","the","location","(rotational)","of","a","gamma","ray","burster","from","knowledge","of","the","all-sky","map's","accuracy.","","pr","material","for","the","other","three","instruments","give","accuracies","on","the","order","of","\"fractions","of","a","degree\",","if","that's","","any","help.","","speaking","of","gro,","the","net-world","probably","was","happy","to","see","that","the","preps","for","orbit","adjust","appear","to","be","going","well.","","our","branch","guy","who's","helping","out","says","that","things","have","gone","smoothly","with","the","iso-valve","preps","and","the","burns","will","take","place","in","mid-june.","","anyway,","i'm","off","to","find","out","more.","","'be","back","when","i","get","some","info.","","david","w.","@","gsfc","\"i","don't","know","nuthin'","'bout","measurin'","no","gamma","rays\"","_gone","with","the","wind_,","paraphrased"][0,1000,[8,12,20,22,27,36,58,76,82,86,91,94,98,102,109,110,138,139,141,145,157,158,170,173,179,189,191,193,202,206,207,212,217,220,223,228,231,234,237,252,253,255,263,281,289,294,296,297,299,315,327,328,329,330,333,334,336,343,346,349,356,363,367,368,372,378,388,400,407,412,415,418,419,420,425,426,428,430,433,445,446,468,470,474,486,493,496,497,499,510,511,514,515,523,534,536,540,549,559,560,569,575,591,596,607,623,629,633,636,650,654,656,667,674,675,678,686,704,705,707,710,711,718,725,731,733,736,737,740,741,749,750,751,756,760,776,777,779,783,791,808,810,813,823,826,832,833,855,870,882,885,890,899,903,904,921,935,939,943,947,949,956,959,961,964,971,976,980,985,989,993,999],[2,1,1,1,2,3,1,3,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,3,2,2,1,2,10,2,1,1,1,2,1,15,1,8,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,3,2,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,16,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,4,2,1,4,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: brad.welch@his.com (Brad Welch) Subject: CLOCK SPEED Lines: 11 HELLO, New to this area so.... I have read about some upgrades for the LC II, Doing some modification to make the thing run faster! Is the Performa 400 about the same as an lc and if so would the homemade speed upgrade work?? Thanks Brad comp.sys.mac.hardware14["from:","brad.welch@his.com","(brad","welch)","subject:","clock","speed","lines:","11","","","hello,","new","to","this","area","so....","i","have","read","about","some","upgrades","for","the","lc","ii,","doing","some","modification","to","make","the","thing","run","faster!","is","the","performa","400","about","the","same","as","an","lc","and","if","so","would","the","homemade","speed","upgrade","work??","thanks","brad"][0,1000,[4,25,36,53,100,118,122,163,170,198,218,230,242,281,299,321,329,333,364,368,369,372,373,388,400,415,428,462,514,525,572,649,650,656,668,675,690,696,710,748,751,752,777,794,804,811,901],[1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: aaronh@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Aaron Hightower) Subject: Re: What is 3dO? Organization: Texas Instruments Inc Lines: 13 In <1rs6giINN6hk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes: >Someone please fill me in on what 3do. >Thanks, >BH There is a review of 3DO in the latest "wired" magazine. You may just want to take a trip to the local bookstore and check it out (there's some cool pics too). (I haven't read it yet, or I'd tell you more.. :-) - Aaron Hightower comp.graphics13["from:","aaronh@mksol.dseg.ti.com","(aaron","hightower)","subject:","re:","what","is","3do?","organization:","texas","instruments","inc","lines:","13","","in","<1rs6giinn6hk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>","lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu","writes:","",">someone","please","fill","me","in","on","what","3do.",">thanks,",">bh","","there","is","a","review","of","3do","in","the","latest","\"wired\"","magazine.","","you","may","just","want","to","take","a","trip","to","the","local","bookstore","and","check","it","out","(there's","some","cool","pics","too).","","(i","haven't","read","it","yet,","or","i'd","tell","you","more..",":-)","","-","aaron","hightower"][0,1000,[47,65,82,143,152,154,170,187,253,281,307,333,343,344,372,375,388,400,413,425,428,432,443,445,471,495,498,499,514,519,526,533,569,574,584,608,610,623,650,654,659,666,667,699,710,712,727,751,755,781,782,808,831,841,844,849,850,853,854,855,862,882,884,930,990,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,6,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes) Subject: Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity Reply-To: noye@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 56 In article <May.11.02.39.05.1993.28328@athos.rutgers.edu> carlson@ab24.larc.nasa.gov (Ann Carlson) writes: [bible verses ag./ used ag. homosexuality deleted] >Anyone who thinks being gay and Christianity are not compatible should >check out Dignity, Integrity, More Light Presbyterian churches, Affirmation, >MCC churches, etc. Meet some gay Christians, find out who they are, pray >with them, discuss scripture with them, and only *then* form your opinion. also check out the episcopal church -- although by no means all episcopalians are sympathetic to homosexual men and women, there certainly is a fairly large percentage (in my experience) who are. i am good friends with an episcopalian minister who is ordained and living in a monogamous homosexual relationship. this in no way diminishes his ability 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From: vharten@prl.philips.nl (Peter R. van Harten) Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro problem! Lines: 21 Organization: Philips Research I have the following problem on a Dell 450SE with the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA: When I start Windows, the first 5 times I try to run an application, it does not start. Windows will show the following error message: Error Executing application. There is not enough memory to run the application. After the first 5 tries, the application I want to run will start, and afterwards there are no more problems. When I change the Video driver from Mach 32 to 8514/a, this problem does not occur, so I suspect the ATI drivers (I tried both the build 55 and build 59 driver). Does anyone have a clue? ------------------------------------------------------------------ P.R. van Harten Philips Research Laboratories tel. +31 40 742209 Prof. Holstlaan 4 fax. +31 40 744810 5656 AA Eindhoven email:...comp.os.ms-windows.misc9["from:","vharten@prl.philips.nl","(peter","r.","van","harten)","subject:","ati","graphics","ultra","pro","problem!","lines:","21","organization:","philips","research","","i","have","the","following","problem","on","a","dell","450se","with","the","ati","graphics","ultra","pro","","eisa:","","when","i","start","windows,","the","first","5","times","i","try","to","run","an","application,","it","does","not","start.","windows","will","show","the","following","error","message:","","","","","error","executing","application.","there","is","not","enough","memory","to","run","the","","","","","","","","application.","","after","the","first","5","tries,","the","application","i","want","to","run","will","start,","and","","afterwards","there","are","no","more","problems.","when","i","change","the","video","driver","from","","mach","32","to","8514/a,","this","problem","does","not","occur,","so","i","suspect","the","ati","","drivers","(i","tried","both","the","build","55","and","build","59","driver).","","does","anyone","have","a","clue?","","------------------------------------------------------------------","","p.r.","van","harten","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","philips","research","laboratories","tel.","+31","40","742209","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","prof.","holstlaan","4","fax.","+31","40","744810","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","5656","aa","","eindhoven","email:","vharten@prl.philips.nl","","","","","","","","the","netherlands"][0,1000,[4,18,19,25,50,61,75,76,77,82,91,101,135,138,140,158,159,169,170,183,209,231,253,264,276,277,281,290,292,299,319,329,333,341,346,347,353,356,364,368,369,372,373,374,388,395,397,399,412,413,420,428,432,471,495,499,514,526,536,538,597,599,629,639,648,649,650,667,674,676,698,710,712,748,751,752,777,788,798,802,804,809,823,831,849,863,880,889,896,913,917,921,931,936,941,960,966,982,996],[2,3,1,2,1,1,2,2,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,6,4,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,86,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,11,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[1,11,5,2,6,4,1,5,6,12,0,9,1,1,0,3,3,0,3,4,0]][1,21,[],[0.012987012987012988,0.14285714285714285,0.06493506493506493,0.025974025974025976,0.07792207792207792,0.05194805194805195,0.012987012987012988,0.06493506493506493,0.07792207792207792,0.15584415584415584,0,0.11688311688311688,0.012987012987012988,0.012987012987012988,0,0.03896103896103896,0.03896103896103896,0,0.03896103896103896,0.05194805194805195,0]]9
From: dsew@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Sewell) Subject: Theophylline/ephedrine and water bio-availability Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York Lines: 19 Nntp-Posting-Host: troi.cc.rochester.edu Does anyone know if either theophylline or ephedrine, or the two in combination, can reduce the body's ability to make use of available water? I had kind of an odd experience on a group hike recently, becoming dehyrated after about 9 hours of rigorous hiking despite having brought 1 1/2 gallons of water (c. 6 liters). I drank close to twice as much as anyone else, and no one else was dehydrated. I don't think general physical condition was an issue, since I was in at least the middle of the pack in terms of general stamina, so far as I could tell. It may be that I just plain need more water than most people. But I am wondering if theophylline and/or ephedrine might be aggravating things. I took a couple of Primatene tablets during the hike to control asthma (24 mg. ...sci.med5["from:","dsew@troi.cc.rochester.edu","(david","sewell)","subject:","theophylline/ephedrine","and","water","bio-availability","organization:","university","of","rochester","-","rochester,","new","york","lines:","19","nntp-posting-host:","troi.cc.rochester.edu","","does","anyone","know","if","either","theophylline","or","ephedrine,","or","the","two","in","combination,","can","reduce","the","body's","ability","to","make","use","of","","available","water?","","i","had","kind","of","an","odd","experience","on","a","group","hike","recently,","becoming","dehyrated","after","about","9","hours","of","rigorous","hiking","despite","having","brought","1","1/2","gallons","of","water","(c.","6","liters).","i","drank","close","to","twice","as","much","as","anyone","else,","and","no","one","else","was","dehydrated.","","i","don't","think","general","physical","condition","was","an","issue,","since","i","was","in","at","least","the","middle","of","the","pack","in","terms","of","general","stamina,","so","far","as","i","could","tell.","","it","may","be","that","i","just","plain","need","more","water","than","most","people.","","but","i","am","wondering","if","theophylline","and/or","ephedrine","might","be","aggravating","things.","i","took","a","couple","of","primatene","tablets","during","the","hike","to","control","asthma","(24","mg.","ephedrine,","100","mg.","theophylline).","","i","gather","that","both","those","drugs","are","diuretics.","","so","now","i'm","wondering:","does","that","mean","they","can","reduce","the","body's","ability","to","utilize","available","water?","","would","it","be","a","particularly","","stupid","thing","to","take","that","medication","during","hot-weather","exercise?","","(i","always","assumed","diuresis","just","meant","you","urinated","a","lot,","but","that","wasn't","the","case","yesterday.)"][0,1000,[13,24,25,34,38,44,48,52,62,69,77,79,82,83,98,109,121,135,138,139,142,145,163,170,172,173,174,187,199,209,213,217,221,233,234,242,245,250,251,261,273,277,307,315,322,325,327,329,333,342,343,346,350,360,368,371,372,377,382,385,388,389,408,412,413,425,426,428,443,445,453,461,470,473,478,489,495,499,502,506,514,524,525,537,547,549,557,564,568,571,572,585,588,592,600,608,609,617,622,629,649,656,666,667,675,685,690,691,692,698,703,710,711,721,743,744,745,751,752,753,756,757,760,766,770,777,779,794,833,851,855,856,863,874,885,900,908,909,921,925,931,946,971,981,984,985,988,998],[3,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,2,9,2,1,8,1,2,1,2,2,11,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,7,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[9,0,2,3,2,2,6,6,6,11,3,3,33,5,3,5,0,2,1,1,0]][1,21,[],[0.08737864077669903,0,0.019417475728155338,0.02912621359223301,0.019417475728155338,0.019417475728155338,0.05825242718446602,0.05825242718446602,0.05825242718446602,0.10679611650485436,0.02912621359223301,0.02912621359223301,0.32038834951456313,0.04854368932038835,0.02912621359223301,0.04854368932038835,0,0.019417475728155338,0.009708737864077669,0.009708737864077669,0]]12
Subject: Re: Israel's Expansion II From: amoss@shuldig.cs.huji.ac.il (Amos Shapira) Organization: Inst. of Comp. Sci., Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel NNTP-Posting-Host: shuldig.cs.huji.ac.il In-reply-to: rj3s@Virginia.EDU's message of Mon, 26 Apr 1993 20:27:14 GMT Lines: 56 rj3s@Virginia.EDU ("Get thee to a nunnery.....") writes: Now I have a comment concerning Israeli terrorism during the 1930's and 1940's. The Hirgun, and other branch - off militant groups, did fight the British do get them out of Palestine. Yet I fail to see how this Israeli form of terrorism was better than the terrorism practiced now by the Arabs. These Jewish terrorist groups killed innocent British soldiers, but not only thta also killed many Jews who were in favor of a compromise with the Palestinians. The Irgun killed SOLDIERS, which is a legitimate way to drive an unwanted fogriend regime from a country. 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From: hps@KEKOA.JACH.HAWAII.EDU (Henry Stilmack - JAC System Mgr.) Subject: Choosing a window manager Reply-To: hps@KEKOA.JACH.HAWAII.EDU Organization: UK/Canada/Netherlands Joint Astronomy Centre, Hilo, Hawaii Lines: 13 A while back (i.e., several months) someone posted a method for allowing a user to choose (via XMenu and something else??) a window manager interactively at X startup time. Could the original poster (or anyone else) please Email a copy of the method to me, as I have lost the original posting? Thanks. ______________________________________________________________________________ Henry Stilmack ) Computing Systems Manager ) Perform random kindnesses UK/Netherlands/Canada Joint Astronomy Centre ) and senseless acts of beauty 660 N. A'ohoku Place, Hilo, HI 96720 ) hps@jach.Hawaii.Edu 808-969-6530 ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ comp.windows.x8["from:","hps@kekoa.jach.hawaii.edu","(henry","stilmack","-","jac","system","mgr.)","subject:","choosing","a","window","manager","reply-to:","hps@kekoa.jach.hawaii.edu","organization:","uk/canada/netherlands","joint","astronomy","centre,","hilo,","hawaii","lines:","13","","a","while","back","(i.e.,","several","months)","someone","posted","a","method","for","allowing","","a","user","to","choose","(via","xmenu","and","something","else??)","a","window","manager","","interactively","at","x","startup","time.","could","the","original","poster","(or","anyone","","else)","please","email","a","copy","of","the","method","to","me,","as","i","have","lost","the","","original","posting?","thanks.","","______________________________________________________________________________","henry","stilmack","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","",")","","","computing","systems","manager","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","",")","perform","random","kindnesses","","uk/netherlands/canada","joint","astronomy","centre",")","","","and","senseless","acts","of","beauty","660","n.","a'ohoku","place,","hilo,","hi","96720","","","","","","","","",")","","","","hps@jach.hawaii.edu","","","","","","","808-969-6530","","","","","","",")","","","","","------------------------------------------------------------------------------"][0,1000,[6,17,25,26,36,78,93,116,119,123,131,170,206,209,213,216,218,223,233,235,261,282,295,299,314,329,333,343,346,364,372,375,383,388,421,428,430,438,460,499,511,513,514,539,543,547,553,563,572,603,605,615,633,637,639,641,654,655,667,689,706,707,709,710,716,738,750,751,756,765,769,786,810,841,843,849,859,882,895,924,933,960,962,977],[1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,6,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,87,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: rbrand@usasoc.soc.mil (Raymond S. Brand) Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful Organization: SOFNET Lines: 132 In article <1993Apr24.160121.17189@ulysses.att.com>, smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes: [...] > There are three issues with Clipper. The first is whether or not the > architecture of the whole scheme is capable of working. My answer, > with one significant exception, is yes. I really do think that NSA and > NIST have designed this scheme about as well as can be, assuming that > their real objectives are as stated: to permit wiretapping, under > certain carefully-controlled circumstances, with a minimum risk of > abuse. (The exception is that U exists outside of the chip, on a > programming diskette. That's seriously wrong. U_1 and U_2 should be > loaded onto the chip separately.) 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From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) Subject: Re: Is it good that Jesus died? Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau Lines: 21 In article <C62Ar1.LDt@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) wrote: > > In article <1993Apr25.194144.8358@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes: > >Even though a new-born is innocent as can be, his sinful nature > >will surely manifest itself more explicity as he gets older. > > Ah, so you admit newborns are innocent? Then you cannot say _everyone_ is a > sinner. > > About the only way top get out of this one is to claim that a newborn is a > sinner despite having not committed any sins, which is rather odd. This all would also implicate that in order for the sinning 2 month old baby to get forgivance, he or she has to ask for help from Jesus. Somehow I find this a little bit amuzing. Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the ...talk.religion.misc19["from:","sandvik@newton.apple.com","(kent","sandvik)","subject:","re:","is","it","good","that","jesus","died?","organization:","cookamunga","tourist","bureau","lines:","21","","in","article","<c62ar1.ldt@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>,","arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu","(ken","arromdee)","wrote:",">","",">","in","article","<1993apr25.194144.8358@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>","brian@lpl.arizona.edu","(brian","ceccarelli","602/621-9615)","writes:",">",">even","though","a","new-born","is","innocent","as","can","be,","his","sinful","nature",">",">will","surely","manifest","itself","more","explicity","as","he","gets","older.",">","",">","ah,","so","you","admit","newborns","are","innocent?","","then","you","cannot","say","_everyone_","is","a",">","sinner.",">","",">","about","the","only","way","top","get","out","of","this","one","is","to","claim","that","a","newborn","is","a",">","sinner","despite","having","not","committed","any","sins,","which","is","rather","odd.","","this","all","would","also","implicate","that","in","order","for","the","sinning","2","month","old","baby","to","get","forgivance,","he","or","she","has","to","ask","for","help","from","jesus.","somehow","i","find","this","a","little","bit","amuzing.","","cheers,","kent","---","sandvik@newton.apple.com.","alink:","ksand","--","private","activities","on","the","net."][0,1000,[10,18,32,36,37,42,44,47,53,82,91,114,122,138,159,163,168,170,173,177,179,186,187,189,199,212,222,250,276,278,281,310,311,318,329,343,347,348,355,358,368,372,373,375,380,381,388,391,425,428,437,441,445,446,468,470,477,478,495,498,510,514,516,522,534,572,579,580,597,602,613,629,642,651,654,667,672,675,688,690,697,704,710,717,718,726,727,731,735,736,740,751,760,766,773,777,781,792,808,811,833,835,852,860,872,894,899,909,916,921,931,948,957,959,968,988,989,995,997],[1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,10,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,3,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith) Subject: Re: Welcome to Police State USA Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc. Lines: 72 Distribution: world Reply-To: smith@ctron.com NNTP-Posting-Host: glinda.ctron.com In article <C5sI9G.Hx@dscomsa.desy.de>, hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes: >The above conveniently ignores the murder of four BATF agents by the >Branch Davidians in an unprovoked ambush. That has not been demonstrated. Had he come to trial, there was a very real possibility that Koresh would have gotten an acquittal on grounds of self- defense. All survivors of the debacle have sworn that the BATF shot first. >Any government that allows tinpot dictators to set up shop and declare >a private state has drifted into anarchy. There are laws to control >the ownership of guns and the BATF had good reason to beleive that >they were being violated. 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From: iisakkil@beta.hut.fi (Mika Iisakkila) Subject: Re: SCSI vs. IDE In-Reply-To: randy@msc.cornell.edu's message of Tue, 13 Apr 1993 13:47:11 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: beta.hut.fi Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 19 randy@msc.cornell.edu writes: >Do all SCSI cards for DOS systems require a separate device driver to >be loaded into memory for each SCSI device hooked up? No. All that I've seen have also an on-board BIOS which enables you to use up to 2 hard drives directly under DOS (2 drives is a DOS limitation and you have the same problem with IDE and all other standards for that matter). Software drivers often allow for better performance, though. You have to use them if you want to use other devices besides hard disks or have more than 2 disks. >Will this also be true of the 32-bit OS's? Obviously these are not able to use the 16-bit real mode BIOSes that are written for DOS, so you need software drivers. That's not a big deal (as long as the driver...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","iisakkil@beta.hut.fi","(mika","iisakkila)","subject:","re:","scsi","vs.","ide","in-reply-to:","randy@msc.cornell.edu's","message","of","tue,","13","apr","1993","13:47:11","gmt","nntp-posting-host:","beta.hut.fi","organization:","helsinki","university","of","technology,","finland","lines:","19","","randy@msc.cornell.edu","writes:",">do","all","scsi","cards","for","dos","systems","require","a","separate","device","driver","to",">be","loaded","into","memory","for","each","scsi","device","hooked","up?","","no.","all","that","i've","seen","have","also","an","on-board","bios","which","enables","you","to","use","up","to","2","hard","drives","directly","under","dos","(2","drives","is","a","dos","limitation","and","you","have","the","same","problem","with","ide","and","all","other","standards","for","that","matter).","software","drivers","often","allow","for","better","performance,","though.","you","have","to","use","them","if","you","want","to","use","other","devices","besides","hard","disks","or","have","more","than","2","disks.","",">will","this","also","be","true","of","the","32-bit","os's?","","obviously","these","are","not","able","to","use","the","16-bit","real","mode","bioses","that","are","written","for","dos,","so","you","need","software","drivers.","that's","not","a","big","deal","(as","long","as","the","drivers","are","available),","because","you","won't","have","to","fight","with","any","low","memory","problems","either.","--","segmented","memory","helps","structure","software"][0,1000,[18,26,31,36,39,59,66,79,81,84,89,91,93,101,113,121,124,125,128,135,138,145,161,169,170,173,177,180,187,188,197,201,221,230,231,235,240,242,261,281,299,310,327,333,335,343,346,367,368,372,373,375,385,388,393,398,400,401,412,421,425,428,433,448,451,461,470,489,491,496,499,514,537,547,559,572,586,597,598,618,629,650,651,656,667,674,677,691,700,710,712,718,731,746,751,752,760,775,781,783,788,792,793,804,805,808,817,840,870,885,890,891,904,924,941,960,961,968,976,981,989,995],[2,1,1,5,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,6,1,2,2,1,3,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,2,1,6,1,1,3,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,4,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,3,3,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,1,1,2,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: prb@access.digex.net (Pat) Subject: Space Manuevering Tug (was HST servicing mission_) Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Given that what i described for the HST seemed to be the SMT, and given the mass amrgins on the discovery mission is tight enough that spacewalking has to be carefully constrained..... No EDO pallets, no spare Suits, no extra MMU's. WHy not do this? Quick Test Goldins philosophjy of faster cheaper, better. Build a real fast Space TUg, to handle the re-boost of the HST using clean Cryo fuels, and get it ready before the HST mission. If NASA could build Mercury in 13 months, they should be able to make an SMT in 9. How much would it need? Guidance package. Use a Voyager spare. Thruster gear, Use H2O2, or LOX/LH. Bus Use a Commsat. Grapple fixture. Use a stripped down Canadarm. Comms package. SPare X-band omni gear. pat sci.space7["from:","prb@access.digex.net","(pat)","subject:","space","manuevering","tug","(was","hst","servicing","mission_)","organization:","express","access","online","communications","usa","lines:","29","nntp-posting-host:","access.digex.net","","","given","that","what","i","described","for","the","hst","","seemed","to","be","the","smt,","","","and","given","the","mass","amrgins","on","the","discovery","mission","","is","tight","enough","that","","spacewalking","has","to","be","carefully","constrained.....","","no","edo","pallets,","","no","spare","suits,","no","extra","mmu's.","","","","","why","not","do","this?","","","quick","test","","goldins","philosophjy","","of","faster","cheaper,","better.","","build","a","real","fast","space","tug,","","to","handle","the","re-boost","","of","the","hst","","using","clean","cryo","fuels,","","and","get","it","ready","before","the","","hst","mission.","","if","nasa","","could","build","mercury","in","13","months,","","they","should","be","able","to","make","an","smt","in","9.","","","","","how","much","would","it","need?","","guidance","package.","","use","a","","voyager","spare.","","","","","thruster","gear,","","use","h2o2,","","or","lox/lh.","","bus","","use","a","commsat.","","grapple","fixture.","","","use","a","stripped","down","canadarm.","","comms","package.","","","spare","","x-band","","omni","","gear.","","pat"][0,1000,[0,8,18,36,39,48,56,65,79,80,82,92,94,122,139,150,152,155,159,163,170,173,176,187,207,213,214,217,224,225,236,237,243,252,263,265,281,325,329,333,334,339,340,343,346,359,362,372,375,380,382,388,423,428,435,445,449,470,489,492,495,496,514,524,525,526,534,536,538,540,547,555,558,580,586,613,614,624,627,631,632,633,639,656,665,667,678,681,690,691,710,728,748,751,752,754,760,770,782,800,804,830,834,846,880,936,938,941,945,959,964,970,973,979],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,6,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,2,1,52,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,5,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[0,0,0,0,1,0,0,32,0,0,3,1,2,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0,0,0.023809523809523808,0,0,0.7619047619047619,0,0,0.07142857142857142,0.023809523809523808,0.047619047619047616,0.023809523809523808,0.023809523809523808,0,0,0.023809523809523808,0,0,0]]7
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) Subject: Re: CLINTON JOINS LIST OF GENOCIDAL SOCIALIST LEADERS Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 52 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com In article <1r569aINN7ss@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, nomad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Michael Larish) writes: > How is Clinton responsible? It was a law enforcement action. > Granted, it was a nationally covered incident but Clinton had no more to > do with the outcome than Fred Flintstone. Do I think Clinton conceived of it? No. Do I think Clinton ordered it? No. Do I think Clinton was aware of it before it went down? No. Do I think Clinton was aware of it after it went down? Of course; who wasn't? Do I think Clinton prejudged these people to a certain extent because he believed the BATF crap about child abuse and stockpiling "evil semi-automatic weapons?" Yes. Do I think Clinton ever questioned federal jurisdiction in this matter? No. 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From: davem@ee.ubc.ca (Dave Michelson) Subject: Re: Space Station Redesign, JSC Alternative #4 Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering Lines: 36 In article <1ralibINNc0f@cbl.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes: >dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) writes: > >...text of options "A" and "B" deleted... > >>Option C - Single Core Launch Station. >>This is the JSC lead option. Basically, you take a 23 ft diameter >>cylinder that's 92 ft long, slap 3 Space Shuttle Main Engines on >>the backside, put a nose cone on the top, attached it to a >>regular shuttle external tank and a regular set of solid rocket >>motors, and launch the can. 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From: gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) Subject: Re: Equation Editor Nntp-Posting-Host: binkley.cs.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada Lines: 24 In article <1993May11.141706.5878@iitmax.iit.edu> VAXTOOLS@chico.acc.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma (WildThing)) writes: >Hiya > >I'm using Word for Windows and I am quite satisfied with it, except the >Equation Editor screws up all the time. When I try to insert an equation it >will give me two errors: Fence Font not Found and Meta Font not found. The >real problem is that it will not display or print out the integral sign. Does >anyone else have this problem? And how do I solve it? >I'm using a Z-sport 486 laptop with a Panasonic 1124p printer, running >msdos 5.0 and windows 3.1. > > Thanks, > Falke > We all had that problem, you need to expand the fonts manually, the program "decomp" is on disk 1 & the equations fonts are on disk 3 Have fun Gel comp.os.ms-windows.misc9["from:","gel@cs.mcgill.ca","(gilles","khouzam)","subject:","re:","equation","editor","nntp-posting-host:","binkley.cs.mcgill.ca","organization:","socs","-","mcgill","university,","montreal,","canada","lines:","24","","in","article","<1993may11.141706.5878@iitmax.iit.edu>","vaxtools@chico.acc.iit.edu","(falke","bruinsma","(wildthing))","writes:",">hiya",">",">i'm","using","word","for","windows","and","i","am","quite","satisfied","with","it,","except","the","",">equation","editor","screws","up","all","the","time.","when","i","try","to","insert","an","equation","it",">will","give","me","two","errors:","fence","font","not","found","and","meta","font","not","found.","the",">real","problem","is","that","it","will","not","display","or","print","out","the","integral","sign.","does",">anyone","else","have","this","problem?","and","how","do","i","solve","it?",">i'm","using","a","z-sport","486","laptop","with","a","panasonic","1124p","printer,","running","",">msdos","5.0","and","windows","3.1.",">",">","","","thanks,",">","","","","","falke",">","","we","all","had","that","problem,","you","need","to","expand","the","fonts","manually,","the","program","\"decomp\"","is","on","disk","1","&","the","equations","fonts","are","on","disk","3","","","","","","","","","","have","fun","","","","","","","","gel"][0,1000,[18,19,22,34,36,40,51,76,79,80,82,101,102,122,128,132,138,156,159,164,170,173,179,186,187,201,218,237,255,267,270,281,298,299,329,333,344,372,373,386,388,402,408,411,413,414,418,420,425,428,445,449,453,470,471,488,492,495,499,511,513,514,519,526,534,537,539,547,553,562,605,609,615,624,642,644,645,647,650,654,665,667,672,697,698,710,714,730,731,734,744,751,752,760,771,783,798,808,810,824,829,872,874,879,882,886,925,930,955,963,968,993,994,995,998],[3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,2,3,4,1,26,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[0,0,4,1,2,5,4,2,7,96,5,10,2,6,5,2,2,2,0,2,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0.025477707006369428,0.006369426751592357,0.012738853503184714,0.03184713375796178,0.025477707006369428,0.012738853503184714,0.044585987261146494,0.6114649681528662,0.03184713375796178,0.06369426751592357,0.012738853503184714,0.03821656050955414,0.03184713375796178,0.012738853503184714,0.012738853503184714,0.012738853503184714,0,0.012738853503184714,0]]9
From: dealy@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Dealy - CSC) Subject: Re: How XCreateRegion works ?? Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Lines: 87 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: narya.gsfc.nasa.gov Keywords: Xlib, XRegion Originator: dealy@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov In article <1td5inINNl7m@finch.doc.ic.ac.uk>, ln@doc.ic.ac.uk (Leonidas Nikidis) writes: |> |> Hi, |> |> |> |> Could someone explain to me what exactly the Xlib functions |> |> XCreateRegion, XPolygonRegion, XPointInRegion do, or to |> |> suggest a ftp site where I can find programs using these functions. |> |> |> PS: The man pages does not explain much ...... |> |> |> Thank you, |> Leo. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> -- |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> Leonidas Nikidis : ln@doc.ic.ac.uk Imperial College, London,UK |> Dept. of Computing |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- I use those routines in a widget which only 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From: shorty@nevada.edu (DAVID HAAG) Subject: Re: Pink Noise Nntp-Posting-Host: helios.nevada.edu Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services Distribution: sci.electronics Lines: 31 In article <34T302tW40N601@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> dws30@p1hdb01cd.amdahl.com (David Sharpe) writes: > > Pink Noise and White Noise are equal amounts of all frequencies. This >is in most cases around the 20-3.3K Hz range. Pink/White are used to >adjust for room dynamics and stuff like that. There are a few EQ's out >on the market that have Pink noise built in. Most all from Audio >Control have them I know the C-101 does. With regards to what you wrote, how does one "adjust for room dynamics and stuff like that"? I asked a professor that question just last week and he didn't really know himself. Since pink noise is believed to be due to surface states (say, the surface of the Silicon where there's a lack of a covalent bond) that act as "traps" to nearby elecrons, and since this hap...sci.electronics10["from:","shorty@nevada.edu","(david","haag)","subject:","re:","pink","noise","nntp-posting-host:","helios.nevada.edu","organization:","university","of","nevada","system","computing","services","distribution:","sci.electronics","lines:","31","","in","article","<34t302tw40n601@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>","dws30@p1hdb01cd.amdahl.com","(david","sharpe)","writes:",">",">","pink","noise","and","white","noise","are","equal","amounts","of","all","frequencies.","","this",">is","in","most","cases","around","the","20-3.3k","hz","range.","","pink/white","are","used","to",">adjust","for","room","dynamics","and","stuff","like","that.","","there","are","a","few","eq's","out",">on","the","market","that","have","pink","noise","built","in.","","most","all","from","audio",">control","have","them","i","know","the","c-101","does.","","","","","","with","regards","to","what","you","wrote,","how","does","one","\"adjust","for","room","dynamics","","and","stuff","like","that\"?","","i","asked","a","professor","that","question","just","last","week","and","he","didn't","really","know","himself.","","since","pink","noise","is","believed","to","be","due","to","surface","states","(say,","the","surface","of","the","silicon","where","there's","a","lack","of","a","covalent","bond)","that","act","as","\"traps\"","to","nearby","elecrons,","and","since","this","happens","at","low","frequencies","(because","at","high","frequencies","they","aren't","able","to","\"trap\"","electrons),","how","do","you","compensate","for","that?","","it","seems","to","me","that","you","wouldn't","be","able","to","compensate","for","pink","noise.","","i","have","seen","the","\"pink","noise\"","feature,","however,","on","many","eqs,","and","i","was","wondering","how","they","are","suppose","to","compensate","for","noise","when","pink","noise","is","not","due","to","\"man","made","noise\"","like","power","lines,","crosstalks,","coupling,","etc.","","if","you","have","any","information","about","this,","it","would","be","appreciated.","","hope","this","didn't","sound","too","drawn","out.","","thanx.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","-","david","(shorty@helios.nevada.edu)"][0,1000,[0,16,18,35,36,44,48,50,54,60,76,77,78,79,82,90,91,103,116,119,122,130,133,138,139,140,153,161,163,170,178,179,181,188,195,210,216,220,225,234,237,251,263,281,299,307,310,313,315,318,326,329,330,333,341,343,344,345,353,356,367,372,373,376,388,400,402,409,412,423,425,428,445,446,450,454,465,467,470,471,472,473,494,495,496,497,499,505,511,514,526,534,572,576,582,583,585,602,605,609,611,618,639,644,650,654,656,667,676,689,690,698,710,718,726,727,728,729,737,738,748,751,753,756,760,764,765,770,777,778,779,787,792,793,808,817,825,830,831,834,844,870,871,905,906,911,921,924,927,935,947,968,978,989,995,997],[1,3,1,1,5,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,6,2,1,1,2,2,1,4,3,6,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,50,3,1,11,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,6,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,7,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
Subject: Re-entrancy of Xlib functions. Known problem??? From: visser@eedwsa.itwol.bhp.com.au (Martin Visser) Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: eedwsa.itwol.bhp.com.au Lines: 27 I've found a problem in the use of Xlib functions regarding re-entrancy. I decided to implement an animated cursor (using 6 created cursors) by calling XDefineCursor from a SIG_ALRM signal handler. This is used to indicate we are waiting for a operator request to complete. (on a production control system). I was redrawing the screen underneath the animated cursor and then restoring the standard cursor when complete. I found dumped core , and upon analysis it was when the SIG_ALRM handler was called during a XDrawString call. XDrawString was doing a bcopy (presumably an internal structure) when the XDefineCursor was called. Presumably the (internal) structure that XDrawString was manipulating was not in a stable state and sent XDefineCursor to where it shouldn't have been. Has anyone else experienced this...comp.windows.x8["subject:","re-entrancy","of","xlib","functions.","known","problem???","from:","visser@eedwsa.itwol.bhp.com.au","(martin","visser)","distribution:","world","nntp-posting-host:","eedwsa.itwol.bhp.com.au","lines:","27","","i've","found","a","problem","in","the","use","of","xlib","functions","regarding","re-entrancy.","i","decided","to","implement","an","animated","cursor","(using","6","created","cursors)","by","calling","xdefinecursor","from","a","sig_alrm","signal","handler.","this","is","used","to","indicate","we","are","waiting","for","a","operator","request","to","complete.","(on","a","production","control","system).","i","was","redrawing","the","screen","underneath","the","animated","cursor","and","then","restoring","the","standard","cursor","when","complete.","i","found","dumped","core",",","and","upon","analysis","it","was","when","the","sig_alrm","handler","was","called","during","a","xdrawstring","call.","xdrawstring","was","doing","a","bcopy","(presumably","an","internal","structure)","when","the","xdefinecursor","was","called.","presumably","the","(internal)","structure","that","xdrawstring","was","manipulating","was","not","in","a","stable","state","and","sent","xdefinecursor","to","where","it","shouldn't","have","been.","","has","anyone","else","experienced","this?","is","there","any","official","documentation","that","says","you","should","ensure","this","doesn't","happen?","or","should","bcopy()","be","atomic.","we","are","running","on","sgi","irix","4.0.1","with","x11r4.","","","","--","","regards,","martin","","","","","/\\/\\","","","","",":","","martin","visser","-","electrical","/","software","engineer","","","","/","/","/\\","","","",":","","engineering","technology","department","","/","/","/","","\\","","",":","","bhp","steel","-","slab","and","plate","products","division","/","/","/","/\\","\\","",":","","p.o.","box","1854","wollongong","nsw","2500","australia","\\","\\/","/","/","/","",":","","phone","","","","+61-42-75-7522","ext.","6207","","\\","","/","/","/","","",":","","fax","","","","","","+61-42-75-7038","","","","\\/\\/\\/","","","",":","","e-mail","","","visser@itwol.bhp.com.au"][0,1000,[6,12,18,34,36,45,58,62,66,68,69,76,79,80,82,85,90,91,92,97,100,101,107,116,117,138,139,143,147,150,152,170,173,174,182,185,187,193,199,202,209,223,228,232,234,241,250,251,254,260,262,277,281,288,295,296,298,299,310,313,329,332,333,334,339,343,349,356,369,372,373,378,381,388,395,398,402,411,418,424,425,428,434,445,456,472,485,489,495,499,512,514,515,534,545,556,580,583,584,587,593,605,612,614,620,621,623,624,632,650,656,663,665,670,675,680,699,705,710,717,723,735,751,752,757,760,761,770,795,798,800,831,836,844,866,874,886,911,916,921,926,948,954,955,956,963,967,972,974,993],[1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,15,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,2,7,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,1,53,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,7,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[2,3,1,3,2,1,5,0,21,131,4,21,11,18,9,1,2,1,3,1,0]][1,21,[],[0.008333333333333333,0.0125,0.004166666666666667,0.0125,0.008333333333333333,0.004166666666666667,0.020833333333333332,0,0.0875,0.5458333333333333,0.016666666666666666,0.0875,0.04583333333333333,0.075,0.0375,0.004166666666666667,0.008333333333333333,0.004166666666666667,0.0125,0.004166666666666667,0]]9
From: nicho@vnet.IBM.COM (Greg Stewart-Nicholls) Subject: Re: Death and Taxes (was Why not give $1 billion to... Reply-To: nicho@vnet.ibm.com Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM News-Software: UReply 3.1 X-X-From: nicho@vnet.ibm.com <1993Apr27.072512.439@bby.com.au> Lines: 11 In <1993Apr27.072512.439@bby.com.au> Gregory N. Bond writes: >I wouldn't even begin to expect that >in Australia, and we don't have institutionalised corruption like you >do. Wanna bet ??? You must be too young to remember Bob Askin :-) Read the Costigan commision report if you want to know about corruption in OZ. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Nicholls ... : Vidi nicho@vnet.ibm.com or : Vici nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk : Veni sci.space7["from:","nicho@vnet.ibm.com","(greg","stewart-nicholls)","subject:","re:","death","and","taxes","(was","why","not","give","$1","billion","to...","reply-to:","nicho@vnet.ibm.com","disclaimer:","this","posting","represents","the","poster's","views,","not","those","of","ibm","news-software:","ureply","3.1","x-x-from:","nicho@vnet.ibm.com","","","","","","","","","","","","","<1993apr27.072512.439@bby.com.au>","lines:","11","","in","<1993apr27.072512.439@bby.com.au>","gregory","n.","bond","writes:",">i","wouldn't","even","begin","to","expect","that",">in","australia,","and","we","don't","have","institutionalised","corruption","like","you",">do.","","wanna","bet","???","you","must","be","too","young","to","remember","bob","askin",":-)","read","the","costigan","commision","report","if","you","want","to","know","about","corruption","in","oz.","","-----------------------------------------------------------------","greg","nicholls","...","","","","","","","","",":","vidi","nicho@vnet.ibm.com","or","","","","",":","vici","nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk",":","veni"][0,1000,[18,23,24,27,72,139,159,169,170,187,193,204,237,250,275,292,294,299,303,320,330,333,341,343,372,373,379,388,389,406,423,425,426,428,436,445,467,480,482,484,514,522,543,562,566,586,589,600,622,633,642,644,650,654,656,685,709,710,712,718,730,751,760,767,777,779,783,794,797,808,811,830,841,877,884,894,901,926,944,962,973,977,993,995],[2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,27,1,1,3,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
Distribution: world From: Lynn_C._Moyers@bmug.org Organization: BMUG, Inc. Subject: Re: Non-Apple Mini-Docks available? Lines: 10 There are no MiniDocks with math coprocessors available right now and I am not aware of any in development. Demand appears low for such a device right now, but I'm sure some enterprising vendor would create one if there were sufficient demand. Lynn **** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG. The message contained in **** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views. comp.sys.mac.hardware14["distribution:","world","from:","lynn_c._moyers@bmug.org","organization:","bmug,","inc.","subject:","re:","non-apple","mini-docks","available?","lines:","10","","there","are","no","minidocks","with","math","coprocessors","available","right","now","and","i","am","not","aware","of","any","in","development.","demand","appears","low","for","such","a","device","right","now,","but","i'm","sure","some","enterprising","vendor","would","create","one","if","there","were","sufficient","demand.","","lynn","","****","from","planet","bmug,","the","firstclass","bbs","of","bmug.","","the","message","contained","in","****","this","posting","does","not","in","any","way","reflect","bmug's","official","views."][0,1000,[13,17,18,36,44,83,91,98,122,138,150,159,163,170,173,265,272,299,309,329,333,343,346,371,372,373,388,395,396,400,418,425,428,445,451,485,503,514,521,524,541,552,569,574,591,592,595,614,618,638,650,667,679,698,710,751,776,808,821,831,894,901,913,919,921,955,962,964,969,977,981],[1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: Anthony Lest <lest@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated Organization: colorado.edu Lines: 249 gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net CALL FOR VOTES This is the official 2nd Call For Votes for this newsgroup. NAME OF PROPOSED NEWSGROUP: ========================== soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya CHARTER: ======= A religious newsgroup, which would mainly be devoted to fostering an understanding and appraisal of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, its beliefs, ideology and philosophy. It will also discuss the distinction between Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and other branches of Islam. In addition this newsgroup will also discuss the beliefs, teachings, and philosophy of all the other major religions to pro- mote universal religious appreciation, awareness, and tolerance. 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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. Organization: DSI/USCRPAC Distribution: na Lines: 17 In article <116664@bu.edu> uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes: > >So don't give me any bullshit analogies about how we trust coke not to >put mind control drugs in every can to get us to buy more. Shhh--coke drinkers haven't found out about Phosphoric Acid yet. :-) David -- David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of our information, errors and omissions excepted. sci.crypt4["from:","strnlght@netcom.com","(david","sternlight)","subject:","re:","once","tapped,","your","code","is","no","good","any","more.","organization:","dsi/uscrpac","distribution:","na","lines:","17","","in","article","<116664@bu.edu>","uni@acs.bu.edu","(shaen","bernhardt)","writes:","","",">",">so","don't","give","me","any","bullshit","analogies","about","how","we","trust","coke","not","to",">put","mind","control","drugs","in","every","can","to","get","us","to","buy","more.","","shhh--coke","drinkers","haven't","found","out","about","phosphoric","acid","yet.","",":-)","","david","--","","david","sternlight","","","","","","","","","great","care","has","been","taken","to","ensure","the","accuracy","of","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","our","information,","errors","and","omissions","excepted."][0,1000,[3,18,86,91,147,160,168,173,179,184,201,208,213,214,220,226,237,260,263,281,286,299,300,310,315,329,333,343,346,353,372,388,391,420,426,428,445,456,470,471,479,481,514,529,533,535,580,592,595,654,662,667,678,691,704,710,751,777,783,803,808,820,833,866,874,877,882,884,897,936,943,955,959,979,993,995,996],[1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,40,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: hechel@vms.huji.ac.il Subject: switzerland at WC93 Distribution: world Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Lines: 11 what did happen to the swiss team ? last year they reached the semi-final and now after 3 matches no points and even no goals !! after the 0:1 against Italy it seems they lost any hope and were overrun 0:6 by the russian team. now it seems that they have to work hard not to be relegated to the B-level. does anybody know if this WC is the qualification tournement for the olympic games '94 in Lillehammer or are some teams already qualified for them. hopp schwiiz daniel rec.sport.hockey0["from:","hechel@vms.huji.ac.il","subject:","switzerland","at","wc93","distribution:","world","organization:","the","hebrew","university","of","jerusalem","lines:","11","","what","did","happen","to","the","swiss","team","?","last","year","they","reached","the","semi-final","and","now","after","3","matches","no","points","and","even","no","goals","!!","after","the","0:1","against","italy","it","seems","they","lost","any","hope","and","were","overrun","0:6","by","the","russian","team.","now","it","seems","that","they","have","to","work","hard","not","to","be","relegated","to","the","b-level.","does","anybody","know","if","this","wc","is","the","qualification","tournement","for","the","olympic","games","'94","in","lillehammer","or","are","some","teams","already","qualified","for","them.","","hopp","schwiiz","","","","","","","","","","","","daniel"][0,1000,[0,6,18,19,34,36,48,57,68,77,89,91,98,118,119,122,125,138,142,150,170,187,223,233,238,246,263,275,281,299,311,317,333,339,342,343,346,372,373,388,399,400,406,412,418,428,439,445,452,454,468,495,497,508,512,514,526,527,543,559,594,607,622,656,667,684,698,710,728,730,743,751,756,760,779,811,899,922,951,956,962,976,989,997],[1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,13,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: guo@acuson.com (Xiaocong Guo) Subject: Re: Toyota Land Cruiser worth it? Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California Lines: 26 tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke) writes: >My wife and I looked at, and drove one last fall. This was a 1992 model. >It was WAYYYYYYYYY underpowered. I could not imagine driving it in the >mountains here in Colorado at anything approaching highway speeds. I >have read that the new 1993 models have a newer, improved hp engine. >I'm quite serious that I laughed in the salesman face when he said "once >it's broken in it will feel more powerful". I had been used to driving a >Jeep 4.0L 190hp engine. I believe the 92's Land Cruisers (Land Yachts) >were 3.0L, the sames as the 4Runner, which is also underpowered (in my >own personal opinion). >They are big cars, very roomy, but nothing spectacular. >( ___ )-----------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) > | / | Tom Vervaeke Email: tvervaek@cs.itc.hp.com | \ | > | ...rec.autos6["from:","guo@acuson.com","(xiaocong","guo)","subject:","re:","toyota","land","cruiser","worth","it?","organization:","acuson;","mountain","view,","california","lines:","26","","tvervaek@col.hp.com","(tom","vervaeke)","writes:","",">my","wife","and","i","looked","at,","and","drove","one","last","fall.","this","was","a","1992","model.",">it","was","wayyyyyyyyy","underpowered.","i","could","not","imagine","driving","it","in","the",">mountains","here","in","colorado","at","anything","approaching","highway","speeds.","i",">have","read","that","the","new","1993","models","have","a","newer,","improved","hp","engine.","","",">i'm","quite","serious","that","i","laughed","in","the","salesman","face","when","he","said","\"once",">it's","broken","in","it","will","feel","more","powerful\".","i","had","been","used","to","driving","a",">jeep","4.0l","190hp","engine.","i","believe","the","92's","land","cruisers","(land","yachts)",">were","3.0l,","the","sames","as","the","4runner,","which","is","also","underpowered","(in","my",">own","personal","opinion).","","",">they","are","big","cars,","very","roomy,","but","nothing","spectacular.","","",">(","___",")-----------------------------------------------------------(","___",")",">","|","/","|","tom","vervaeke","","","","","","","","","","","email:","tvervaek@cs.itc.hp.com","","","","","","","","|","\\","|",">","|","/","|","hewlett","packard","co.","","","","phone:","719-590-2133","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","\\","|",">","|","/","|","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","\\","|",">","|___|","","","","","","","","","","i","love","animals.","they","taste","delicious.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|___|",">(_____)-----------------------------------------------------------(_____)","","the","land","cruiser","has","a","l6","4.5","engine","which","has","200","hp","and","280","torgue,","when","i","","drove","it","here","in","california,","power","is","more","than","enough.","the","high","price","is","","the","only","reason","i","did","not","buy","it."][0,1000,[7,18,21,25,31,34,40,44,48,49,58,63,66,76,77,80,83,84,87,94,107,108,114,115,116,123,132,133,135,138,144,148,153,160,161,170,179,190,193,196,212,213,228,234,240,252,255,261,268,273,281,282,299,302,312,320,326,327,329,333,334,336,361,367,372,373,385,388,403,412,420,422,427,428,429,431,437,443,445,453,454,476,486,495,499,511,514,532,535,545,555,572,580,582,592,597,598,600,605,607,629,650,652,653,655,665,667,688,694,695,710,721,729,734,747,748,751,756,760,765,780,783,787,789,791,792,808,810,825,829,852,867,876,890,899,913,916,921,924,937,939,944,948,950,955,986,989,995,997],[2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,2,1,4,4,2,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,9,3,1,1,1,1,130,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,12,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: texx@ossi.com ("Texx") Subject: Re: Need info on Circumcision, medical cons and pros Organization: Open Systems Solutions Inc. Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: nym.ossi.com menon@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Ravi or Deantha Menon) writes: >aezpete@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu () writes: >>>The penile cancer thing has been *completely* debunked...she must be >>>going to school on a South Pacific island. Tell her to check the Journal >>>or Urology for circumcision articles. I remember at least 1 on an old >>>Jewish man (cut at birth) who developed penile cancer....I mean, if the >>>cancer risk was that great, the Europe who have been circumcising like >>>crazy, too. Teaching a boy how to keep his cockhead clean is the issue: a >>>little proper hygiene goes a long way - Americans are just too hung up on >>>the penis to consider cleaning it: that's just way too much like >>>mastubation. So you have surgical intervention that is basically >>>unnecessary. >>Peter Schlumpf >>University of Illinois 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From: HOLFELTZ@LSTC2VM.stortek.com Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick Nntp-Posting-Host: lstc2vm.stortek.com Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2 Lines: 31 In article <yag12B3w165w@anarky.tch.org> melchar@anarky.tch.org (Melchar) writes: > >> [I've read many things like this in the past, yet not quite so >> blatant a comparison of Christian and Pagan, Roman myth/practice. >> Is it all historical? How often has Merlin/Myrddin been associated >> with Roman gods? How often has he been associated with Mithras? >> Does anyone know where Mithras originated? In Asia? What part?] >> >> Thyagi@HouseofKAos.Abyss.com > > Mithraic worship predates Xianity but in many ways is similar. It >was a mystery cult, (worship in which not all the information was >available to all members: tests had to be passed & at each stage, new >info was offered to the worshipper [similar to the Masons......in more >than one way]) -- of Mithras, a sun deity. He was cyc...talk.religion.misc19["from:","holfeltz@lstc2vm.stortek.com","subject:","re:","merlin,","mithras","and","magick","nntp-posting-host:","lstc2vm.stortek.com","organization:","storagetek","sw","engineering","x-newsreader:","nnr/vm","s_1.3.2","lines:","31","","in","article","<yag12b3w165w@anarky.tch.org>","melchar@anarky.tch.org","(melchar)","writes:","","",">",">>","[i've","read","many","things","like","this","in","the","past,","yet","not","quite","so",">>","blatant","a","comparison","of","christian","and","pagan,","roman","myth/practice.",">>","is","it","all","historical?","","how","often","has","merlin/myrddin","been","associated",">>","with","roman","gods?","","how","often","has","he","been","associated","with","mithras?",">>","does","anyone","know","where","mithras","originated?","","in","asia?","","what","part?]",">>",">>","thyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com",">",">","","","","","","mithraic","worship","predates","xianity","but","in","many","ways","is","similar.","","it",">was","a","mystery","cult,","(worship","in","which","not","all","the","information","was",">available","to","all","members:","","tests","had","to","be","passed","&","at","each","stage,","new",">info","was","offered","to","the","worshipper","[similar","to","the","masons......in","more",">than","one","way])","--","of","mithras,","a","sun","deity.","","he","was","cyclic","(went","down","to",">darkness,","was","reborn),","inspired","hope;","fought","against","the","darkness;","was",">popular","and","charismatic.......",">","","","","","","the","worship","originated","in","persia","&","was","linked","to","the","ahura-mazda","","","wow,","this","is","news","to","me---it","started","in","tarsus--you","know,","where","paul","of","nt","fame","was","from.","","not","to","be","nasty,","but","get","a","clue,","read","_the","orgins","of","the","mithraic","mysteries_","by","dulansey!","","","hey","hasn't","anyone","read","manly","p","hall's","works?","","perhaps","it","might","be","worth","a","try....","","",">cults.","","for","a","while","it","threatened","to","eclipse","xianity","--","however","it",">suffered","from","one","fatal","flaw:","","it","only","accepted","free","men","as","members.",">","","","","","","","xianity","took","women","and","slaves","and......anyone","it","could","get"][0,1000,[5,16,18,25,36,44,47,50,54,56,73,78,79,83,84,85,92,119,122,139,145,149,160,165,168,170,171,173,175,179,188,191,192,198,200,207,209,213,217,223,234,237,246,247,255,257,262,269,281,291,294,303,325,328,330,333,341,342,343,348,363,368,370,372,373,383,387,388,401,405,411,414,428,432,433,438,440,443,445,447,453,454,470,478,495,506,513,514,526,532,533,535,542,552,559,562,571,572,578,580,595,597,600,613,617,619,629,630,635,638,641,643,650,656,657,667,673,678,679,686,698,699,703,707,710,712,725,731,734,735,739,748,751,753,756,757,760,761,776,778,779,781,783,805,808,810,819,868,870,883,885,899,903,904,921,939,950,959,968,978,985,988,989,995,997,998],[1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,7,1,2,1,5,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,7,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,36,2,1,1,9,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,7,2,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,5,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) Subject: Re: Smullyanism for the day..... Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 28 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu In article <1r8tpi$4pu@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM> geoff@East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top) writes: >[This Raymond Smullyan quote is too big for a .sig, but deserves posting IMHO.] To big for a .sig? No way! Keith " Home of the billdboard .sig files " Ryan =) --- Private note to Jennifer Fakult. "This post may contain one or more of the following: sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be confused and/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume all of the above. The owners of this account do not take any responsiblity for your own confusion which may result from your inability to recognize any of the above. R...alt.atheism17["from:","kmr4@po.cwru.edu","(keith","m.","ryan)","subject:","re:","smullyanism","for","the","day.....","organization:","case","western","reserve","university","lines:","28","distribution:","world","nntp-posting-host:","b64635.student.cwru.edu","","in","article","<1r8tpi$4pu@dr-pepper.east.sun.com>","geoff@east.sun.com","(geoff","arnold","@","sun","bos","-","r.h.","coast","near","the","top)","writes:","",">[this","raymond","smullyan","quote","is","too","big","for","a",".sig,","but","deserves","posting","imho.]","","","to","big","for","a",".sig?","","","","no","way!","","","","keith","\"","home","of","the","billdboard",".sig","files","\"","ryan","","","=)","","---","","private","note","to","jennifer","fakult.","","","","","","","","","","\"this","post","may","contain","one","or","more","of","the","following:","","","","","","","","","","sarcasm,","cycnicism,","irony,","or","humor.","please","be","aware","","","","","","","","","","","of","this","possibility","and","do","not","allow","yourself","to","be","","","","","","","","","","","confused","and/or","thrown","for","a","loop.","if","in","doubt,","assume","","","","","","","","","","all","of","the","above.","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","the","owners","of","this","account","do","not","take","any","responsiblity","","","","","","","","","","for","your","own","confusion","which","may","result","from","your","inability","","","","","","","","","","to","recognize","any","of","the","above.","read","at","your","own","risk,","jennifer.\""][0,1000,[15,18,31,36,38,44,60,66,71,79,82,83,91,112,148,150,152,170,174,187,228,231,263,264,267,270,277,279,281,299,301,312,317,321,322,333,342,343,345,346,356,365,372,373,379,388,393,400,412,428,429,445,449,458,470,473,499,514,534,535,542,551,570,584,594,597,598,605,612,617,624,629,641,644,650,656,666,667,679,702,703,704,710,720,725,746,750,751,756,759,808,813,821,826,841,855,865,885,890,894,901,909,921,928,946,949,950,954,968,973,974,984,995],[1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,2,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,6,1,1,1,1,98,2,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: klepa@leotech.mv.com (Kristen Lepa) Subject: Thanks for UnlockFolder Lines: 10 Sorry all the personal replies I sent about help with UnlockFolder got eaten by my mail program (my fault), so I'd like to thank everyone who sent me info! Kristen Lepa * Origin: Leo Technology (603)432-2517/432-0922 (HST/V32) (1:132/189) comp.sys.mac.hardware14["from:","klepa@leotech.mv.com","(kristen","lepa)","subject:","thanks","for","unlockfolder","lines:","10","","sorry","all","the","personal","replies","i","sent","about","help","with","unlockfolder","got","eaten","by","my","mail","program","(my","fault),","so","i'd","like","to","thank","everyone","who","sent","me","info!","","","","","kristen","lepa","","","","*","origin:","leo","technology","(603)432-2517/432-0922","(hst/v32)","(1:132/189)"][0,1000,[7,34,36,117,217,223,230,244,290,322,329,330,339,347,368,372,388,428,471,514,519,520,553,607,623,644,650,654,689,699,710,725,731,751,755,777,821,893,916,937,939,953,955,961,963,968],[1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
Organization: University of Maine System From: Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Subject: Re: How to speed up games (marginally realistic) Lines: 15 Pitchers are required to pitch (or feint or attempt a pick-off) within 20 seconds after receiving the ball, not 15. Pitchers are required to pitch their warm-up throws within a one minute time frame, beginning after each half inning ends, not two minutes. And the reason why a reliever should be allowed warm-ups is simple: Different mound, different catcher. Ryan Robbins Penobscot Hall University of Maine IO20456@Maine.Maine.Edu rec.sport.baseball3["organization:","university","of","maine","system","from:","ryan","robbins","<io20456@maine.maine.edu>","subject:","re:","how","to","speed","up","games","(marginally","realistic)","lines:","15","","pitchers","are","required","to","pitch","(or","feint","or","attempt","a","pick-off)","within","20","seconds","after","receiving","the","ball,","not","15.","","pitchers","are","required","to","pitch","their","warm-up","throws","within","a","one","minute","time","frame,","beginning","after","each","half","inning","ends,","not","two","minutes.","","and","the","reason","why","a","reliever","should","be","allowed","warm-ups","is","simple:","different","mound,","different","catcher.","","ryan","robbins","penobscot","hall","university","of","maine","","io20456@maine.maine.edu"][0,1000,[15,18,32,44,48,54,65,77,89,128,138,145,157,170,187,188,197,198,206,207,209,235,237,268,281,299,300,314,333,339,343,350,369,372,376,388,389,406,408,412,428,435,438,441,469,512,514,567,588,617,639,656,665,667,678,710,721,743,746,751,780,808,855,885,904,973],[2,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,5,1,3,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) Subject: Re: Questions about insurance companies (esp. Geico) Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario Distribution: usa Nntp-Posting-Host: valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca Lines: 8 In article <66758@mimsy.umd.edu> davew@cs.umd.edu (David G. Wonnacott) writes: >I'm considering switching to Geico insurance, but have heard that >they do not assign a specific agent for each policy or claim. I was >worried that this might be a real pain when you make a claim. I have >also heard that they try to get rid of you if you have an accident. I've read in this group that Geico has funded the purchasing of radar guns by police depts (I'm not sure where). rec.autos6["from:","wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca","(wayne","smith)","subject:","re:","questions","about","insurance","companies","(esp.","geico)","organization:","the","john","p.","robarts","research","institute,","london,","ontario","distribution:","usa","nntp-posting-host:","valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca","lines:","8","","in","article","<66758@mimsy.umd.edu>","davew@cs.umd.edu","(david","g.","wonnacott)","writes:",">i'm","considering","switching","to","geico","insurance,","but","have","heard","that",">they","do","not","assign","a","specific","agent","for","each","policy","or","claim.","","i","was",">worried","that","this","might","be","a","real","pain","when","you","make","a","claim.","","i","have",">also","heard","that","they","try","to","get","rid","of","you","if","you","have","an","accident.","","i've","read","in","this","group","that","geico","has","funded","the","purchasing","of","radar","guns","by","police","depts","(i'm","not","sure","where)."][0,1000,[9,17,18,31,36,48,52,58,59,76,79,81,83,132,134,137,159,170,187,188,194,223,234,299,310,315,329,337,338,343,349,351,357,361,364,371,372,373,388,425,428,432,445,470,473,483,488,514,525,526,534,564,579,580,615,650,656,667,691,699,701,705,710,714,727,739,751,752,760,765,771,777,782,808,813,821,826,830,860,874,885,898,942,959,985,995,998],[1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,3,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: FOO@MHFOO.PC.MY (Dr. Foo Meng How) Subject: How to gain access? Organization: Klinik Foo Lines: 11 To Whomever who can help me, I am a doctor from Kota Bharu, Kelantan, Malaysia. I have recently hooked up my private home computer to EMail via the local telephone company. I am really interested in corresponding with other Doctors or medical researchers through Email. I also hope to be able to subscribe to a news network on medicine. Can someone please tell me what I should do? I am completely new to this and have no idea about the vast capabilities of Email. Thank you for your attention. sci.med5["from:","foo@mhfoo.pc.my","(dr.","foo","meng","how)","subject:","how","to","gain","access?","organization:","klinik","foo","lines:","11","","to","whomever","who","can","help","me,","","","i","am","a","doctor","from","kota","bharu,","kelantan,","malaysia.","i","have","recently","hooked","up","my","","private","home","computer","to","email","via","the","local","telephone","company.","i","am","really","interested","in","corresponding","with","other","doctors","or","medical","researchers","through","email.","i","also","hope","to","be","able","to","subscribe","to","a","news","network","on","medicine.","","can","someone","please","tell","me","what","i","should","do?","i","am","completely","new","to","this","and","have","no","","idea","about","the","vast","capabilities","of","email.","","thank","you","for","your","attention."][0,1000,[0,8,25,30,34,36,62,64,74,82,89,128,151,158,170,173,187,193,195,217,237,261,263,299,310,322,323,325,327,329,333,343,346,347,364,365,372,373,375,388,425,428,433,440,445,471,496,510,514,526,543,574,575,595,608,650,656,665,667,674,695,704,710,746,750,751,764,776,777,791,792,811,833,841,850,868,889,895,910,916,921,958,974,984,988,995],[1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,2,1,7,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) Subject: Re: Daytona Nntp-Posting-Host: ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada Lines: 25 In <RTARAZ.93Apr22104337@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes: >Well, I watched the Daytona race on TNN. Boy for the people who saw >it: >Was the Yamaha a lot faster than the Kawi or what? on the last >stretch the Yami took of and left the Kawi in the dust. I am a Kawi >rider and am totaly disappointed in the Kawi! Lawson was on the Yamaha. Not taking anything away from Russel, but, well... __ Jorg Klinger | GSXR1100 | If you only new who Arch. & Eng. Services |"Lost Horizons" CR500 | I think I am. UManitoba, Man. Ca. |"The Embalmer" IT175 | - anonymous --Squidonk-- rec.motorcycles2["from:","klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca","(jorg","klinger)","subject:","re:","daytona","nntp-posting-host:","ccu.umanitoba.ca","organization:","university","of","manitoba,","winnipeg,","canada","lines:","25","","in","<rtaraz.93apr22104337@bigwpi.wpi.edu>","rtaraz@bigwpi.wpi.edu","(ramin","taraz)","writes:","",">well,","i","watched","the","daytona","race","on","tnn.","","boy","for","the","people","who","saw",">it:",">was","the","yamaha","a","lot","faster","than","the","kawi","or","what?","","on","the","last",">stretch","the","yami","took","of","and","left","the","kawi","in","the","dust.","","i","am","a","kawi",">rider","and","am","totaly","disappointed","in","the","kawi!","","","","lawson","was","on","the","yamaha.","","not","taking","anything","away","from","russel,","but,","well...","","__","","","","jorg","klinger","","","","","","","","","","","","|","","","","","","","gsxr1100","","","","","","","","|","if","you","only","new","who","","","","arch.","&","eng.","services","","","|\"lost","horizons\"","","cr500","|","i","think","i","am.","","","","","umanitoba,","man.","ca.","","","","","|\"the","embalmer\"","","","it175","|","","","","","","","","","","","-","anonymous","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","--squidonk--"][0,1000,[17,18,25,29,34,36,46,69,71,76,79,82,98,101,103,114,156,170,173,177,184,185,187,190,207,217,222,234,261,294,306,309,329,333,343,356,372,379,385,389,407,412,425,428,431,437,445,454,466,467,478,486,488,489,494,499,514,532,533,538,541,560,562,564,599,630,662,667,676,680,684,694,703,710,735,737,751,770,801,805,808,814,817,818,882,899,903,921,932,955,979,989,995],[1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,2,1,96,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,10,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: "Matthew T. Keating" <mk55+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Bowman needs credit Organization: Freshman, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu During the first three games of the Pens-Devils series, I have been impressed time and time again by the pure talent of the Pens. Jagr, MacEachern and Barrasso have been especially fun to watch. But, one element of this team which goes unnoticed seems to be Scotty Bowman. Despite Brooks' lunatic comments, and despite the Devils' line changing adantage in last night's game, Bowman has been able to keep his cool and keep the Devils in the dark. Granted, the hell-dwellers had the Pens bottled up for a while last night, but Bowman was eventually able to configure his line-up to get the job done. His ability to throw out new looks and strategies at a moments notice is incredible. Bowman seems to have a terrific ability of reading his players on an individual basis. Last night, for instance,...rec.sport.hockey0["from:","\"matthew","t.","keating\"","<mk55+@andrew.cmu.edu>","subject:","bowman","needs","credit","organization:","freshman,","im","-","h&ss","track,","carnegie","mellon,","pittsburgh,","pa","lines:","26","nntp-posting-host:","andrew.cmu.edu","","during","the","first","three","games","of","the","pens-devils","series,","i","have","been","impressed","time","and","time","again","by","the","pure","talent","of","the","pens.","","jagr,","maceachern","and","barrasso","have","been","especially","fun","to","watch.","","but,","one","element","of","this","team","which","goes","unnoticed","seems","to","be","scotty","bowman.","","despite","brooks'","lunatic","comments,","and","despite","the","devils'","line","changing","adantage","in","last","night's","game,","bowman","has","been","able","to","keep","his","cool","and","keep","the","devils","in","the","dark.","","granted,","the","hell-dwellers","had","the","pens","bottled","up","for","a","while","last","night,","but","bowman","was","eventually","able","to","configure","his","line-up","to","get","the","job","done.","","his","ability","to","throw","out","new","looks","and","strategies","at","a","moments","notice","is","incredible.","","bowman","seems","to","have","a","terrific","ability","of","reading","his","players","on","an","individual","basis.","","last","night,","for","instance,","he","realized","that","the","speed","of","jagr,","straka,","and","maceachern","was","throwing","the","devils","off","balance.","","as","a","result,","straka","received","many","more","shifts","than","average;","jagr","played","almost","the","entire","game","(he","was","always","on","the","puck),","and","maceachern","scored","a","goal,","while","complementing","jagr","many","times","throughout","the","night.","his","ability","to","commit","to","one","player","in","crucial","situations","is","commendable,","especially","when","a","coach","of","such","a","talented","team","might","simply","rely","on","the","overall","talent","to","dominate,","and","to","bring","about","success.","","while","no","one","can","replace","the","genius","and","optimism","of","badger","bob","johnson,","bowman,","in","his","own","way,","has","made","himself","a","permanent,","though","not","clearly","seen,","mark","in","","pittsburgh."][0,1000,[13,18,25,36,37,44,50,56,63,76,79,82,83,89,99,106,107,128,134,145,157,160,170,173,178,182,183,188,197,198,199,200,214,217,223,226,228,234,235,242,246,258,261,267,268,272,277,280,281,291,292,299,304,319,328,329,333,335,340,341,343,344,346,358,372,373,380,388,394,411,415,417,428,432,436,445,450,451,453,457,464,468,470,472,475,478,487,488,494,495,496,497,499,504,505,508,511,513,514,515,526,535,541,572,579,580,584,587,589,591,594,597,600,601,606,607,629,639,642,654,656,657,666,667,670,673,674,682,687,692,697,707,710,734,736,743,745,751,752,753,755,756,759,760,777,778,780,787,813,827,829,833,837,839,851,863,872,944,957,958,959,973,975,980,985,989,995,997],[2,2,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,8,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,4,1,12,1,2,1,7,1,1,1,11,1,6,11,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,3,17,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Real FAns Organization: Post Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu There was a discussion about how real fans were ones who respect their teams no matter ow bad they are. That's bullshit. Anyone who would follow the Pens or the Pirates in parts of the early eighties on a devoted basis are losers. It's OK to follow and be concerned about your home team. But to give them respect even when it is clear the management and the players suck should not be required of a true fan.A true fan would follow the team in troubled times to the extent that they could discuss how to improve the team. When I visit PIttsburgh, I'll refuse to go to a Pirates game since I think the management has given PIttsburgh a team which could have been much better even if they couldn't sign Barry Bonds. Lert's say the Pens start doing to their own team what the Oilers have done this year and what the Wh...rec.sport.hockey0["from:","mamatha","devineni","ratnam","<mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu>","subject:","real","fans","organization:","post","office,","carnegie","mellon,","pittsburgh,","pa","lines:","19","nntp-posting-host:","po5.andrew.cmu.edu","","","","there","was","a","discussion","about","how","real","fans","were","ones","who","respect","their","teams","no","matter","ow","bad","they","are.","that's","bullshit.","anyone","who","would","follow","the","pens","or","the","pirates","in","parts","of","the","early","eighties","on","a","devoted","basis","are","losers.","it's","ok","to","follow","and","be","concerned","about","your","home","team.","but","to","","give","them","respect","even","when","it","is","clear","the","management","and","the","players","suck","should","not","be","required","of","a","true","fan.a","","true","fan","would","follow","the","team","in","troubled","times","to","the","extent","that","they","could","discuss","how","to","improve","the","team.","","when","i","visit","pittsburgh,","i'll","refuse","to","go","to","a","pirates","game","since","i","think","the","management","has","given","pittsburgh","a","team","which","could","have","been","much","better","even","if","they","couldn't","sign","barry","bonds.","lert's","say","the","pens","start","doing","to","their","own","team","what","the","oilers","have","done","this","year","and","what","the","whalers","have","done","in","recent","years,","i","would","be","hard","pressed","to","show","much","enthusiasm","for","the","team.","i'll","still","follow","it","and","bitch","about","it.","but","i","won't","waste","my","money","on","mediocre","teams.","","-p{ravin","ratnam"][0,1000,[1,17,18,19,29,30,32,36,48,58,76,77,79,82,83,86,99,100,101,122,125,138,142,145,163,170,176,187,188,197,200,209,213,217,219,228,233,234,235,237,242,248,252,258,263,274,281,295,299,309,317,329,333,334,335,343,346,365,372,373,388,406,407,428,437,445,460,467,468,484,495,499,504,514,520,522,524,526,530,535,548,552,563,564,567,580,585,597,631,648,656,657,665,667,674,691,695,697,702,707,710,728,729,751,756,759,760,777,778,783,800,809,830,831,840,842,852,866,885,899,906,916,924,941,956,958,961,962,973,975,983,991,996],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,6,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,4,4,1,1,2,1,1,8,3,8,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,13,4,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: cmh@eng.cam.ac.uk (C.M. Hicks) Subject: Re: Making up odd resistor values required by filters Nntp-Posting-Host: club.eng.cam.ac.uk Organization: cam.eng Lines: 26 idh@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ian Hawkins) writes: >When constructing active filters, odd values of resistor are often required >(i.e. something like a 3.14 K Ohm resistor).(It seems best to choose common >capacitor values and cope with the strange resistances then demanded). >Is there a PD program out there that will work out how best to make up such >a resistance, given fixed resistors of the standard 12 values per decade?.(1, >1.2,1.5,1.8,2.2,3.3 etc ). It is a common enough problem, yet I cant >recall seing a program that tells that Rx+Ry//Rz gives Rq, starting with >q and finding prefered values x,y and z. I once wrote such a program (in BBC basic...) It was very crude, and took around 5 seconds to do an exhaustive search (with a small amount of intelligence), and told you the best combination >Rq and the bes...sci.electronics10["from:","cmh@eng.cam.ac.uk","(c.m.","hicks)","subject:","re:","making","up","odd","resistor","values","required","by","filters","nntp-posting-host:","club.eng.cam.ac.uk","organization:","cam.eng","lines:","26","","idh@nessie.mcc.ac.uk","(ian","hawkins)","writes:","",">when","constructing","active","filters,","","odd","values","of","resistor","are","often","required","",">(i.e.","something","like","a","3.14","k","ohm","resistor).(it","seems","best","to","choose","common","",">capacitor","values","and","cope","with","the","strange","resistances","then","demanded).","",">is","there","a","pd","program","out","there","that","will","work","out","how","best","to","make","up","such",">a","resistance,","given","fixed","resistors","of","the","standard","12","values","per","decade?.(1,",">1.2,1.5,1.8,2.2,3.3","etc",").","","it","is","a","common","enough","problem,","","yet","i","cant","",">recall","seing","a","program","that","tells","that","rx+ry//rz","gives","rq,","","starting","with","",">q","and","finding","prefered","values","x,y","and","z.","","i","once","wrote","such","a","program","(in","bbc","basic...)","it","was","very","crude,","and","took","around","5","seconds","to","do","an","exhaustive","search","(with","a","small","amount","of","","intelligence),","and","told","you","the","best","combination",">rq","and","the","best","below","rq.","","if","you","want","to","write","one,","just","store","the","prefered","values","in","an","array,","and","then","search","the","solution","space","using","three","nested","loops.","i'm","sure","you","could","knock","this","up","in","an","hour.","","christopher","--","","==============================================================================","","","christopher","hicks","","","","|","","","","","","paradise","is","a","linear","gaussian","world","","","cmh@uk.ac.cam.eng","","","","|","","","","(also","reported","to","taste","hot","and","sweaty)","","=============================================================================="][0,1000,[1,14,26,32,44,61,63,79,86,91,100,101,113,120,124,125,128,138,145,146,147,150,169,170,173,194,195,204,206,207,212,213,223,231,234,237,240,252,261,272,281,290,293,307,308,329,330,333,343,345,348,364,367,372,373,381,388,389,401,411,414,416,420,425,428,440,445,450,454,456,464,484,486,495,497,499,501,514,525,527,534,537,541,545,553,570,593,608,615,616,624,628,635,644,650,654,658,667,676,677,694,703,706,710,712,718,736,737,742,743,747,748,751,752,760,763,765,772,785,808,821,828,831,849,850,855,880,885,901,924,934,935,942,944,954,967,969,970,981,989,991,995,996],[2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,3,1,8,3,2,1,1,1,35,1,2,6,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: root@convex.com (Superuser) Subject: Re: VAL-1 vs. BEL966STi (was Re: Best Radar Detector) Nntp-Posting-Host: hydra.convex.com Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of CONVEX. Lines: 28 In article <brian-230493093710@hotspare.arc.nasa.gov> brian@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Brian Donnell) writes: >In article <1993Apr22.204921.12644@convex.com>, tobias@convex.com (Allen >Tobias) wrote: >> >> I live in the backyard of the folks who make the Stalker radar system. The >> Valentine 1 has saved me many, many, many times from the stealth revenue >> enhancement traps of the local area. I have had all the major brand detectors, >> and, IMHO, nothing else even comes close to the V1! >> > >I hadn't heard of the Valentine-1 before. Car&Driver and other auto >magazines >recommend BEL detectors. I ...rec.autos6["from:","root@convex.com","(superuser)","subject:","re:","val-1","vs.","bel966sti","(was","re:","best","radar","detector)","nntp-posting-host:","hydra.convex.com","organization:","convex","computer","corporation,","richardson,","tx.,","usa","x-disclaimer:","this","message","was","written","by","a","user","at","convex","computer","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","corp.","the","opinions","expressed","are","those","of","the","user","and","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","not","necessarily","those","of","convex.","lines:","28","","in","article","<brian-230493093710@hotspare.arc.nasa.gov>","brian@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov","(brian","donnell)","writes:",">in","article","<1993apr22.204921.12644@convex.com>,","tobias@convex.com","(allen",">tobias)","wrote:",">>","",">>","i","live","in","the","backyard","of","the","folks","who","make","the","stalker","radar","system.","the",">>","valentine","1","has","saved","me","many,","many,","many","times","from","the","stealth","revenue",">>","enhancement","traps","of","the","local","area.","i","have","had","all","the","major","brand","detectors,",">>","and,","imho,","nothing","else","even","comes","close","to","the","v1!",">>","",">",">i","hadn't","heard","of","the","valentine-1","before.","car&driver","and","other","auto",">magazines",">recommend","bel","detectors.","","i","was","considering","their","latest","-","the","966sti","-",">which","picks","up","super","wideband","ka","and","laser","as","well.","","it","also","avoids","",">radar","detector","detectors","(although","i","really","don't","care","about","this","since","i",">doubt","i'll","be","driving","in","virginia","anytime","soon","-","or","have","any","other","states",">also","made","detectors","iilegal?)",">",">how","does","the","valentine-1","compare","with","the","bel","products?",">",">brian","donnell","","no","comparison.","the","bel","is","just","a","hooped","up","wideband","escort","like","detector.","no","directional","indicators,","no","bogey","counter,","no","radar","signature","analysis,","no","remote","display","option,","not","as","sensitive,","not","as","well","built.","","had","it,","sent","it","back!","","at"][0,1000,[2,8,18,19,25,28,32,34,37,41,51,64,79,84,91,92,93,107,112,113,116,117,123,125,128,138,150,151,156,157,159,164,170,177,179,185,187,188,191,196,217,223,234,235,267,281,287,291,297,299,305,307,310,314,329,330,333,335,342,343,344,346,348,352,357,362,372,373,388,399,401,406,407,426,428,429,430,434,441,445,447,449,453,460,470,471,488,493,495,498,499,501,502,505,507,509,514,520,523,525,532,534,540,542,549,572,577,579,580,585,589,591,599,600,608,630,650,651,653,656,659,666,667,674,680,698,702,708,709,710,714,726,744,751,752,756,763,777,782,783,792,795,798,808,816,817,827,841,850,861,882,902,921,927,949,956,959,968,971,981,983,995],[1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,5,1,3,1,1,5,1,5,1,1,1,3,37,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,4,1,2,2,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,3,1,1,15,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka) Subject: Re: Burden of Proof In-Reply-To: ray@engr.LaTech.edu's message of 21 Apr 1993 20:34:49 GMT Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc. X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24 Lines: 29 [ NOTE: talk.origins removed from crossposting, as this had no business going there in the first place. ] In <1r4b59$7hg@aurora.engr.LaTech.edu> ray@engr.LaTech.edu writes: > If I make a statement, "That God exists, loves me, etc." but in no way > insist that you believe it, does that place a burden of proof upon me. No, but you're not achieving anything either. If you don't want to argue the point you're stating, why do you bother stating it? > If you insist that God doesn't exist, does that place a burden of proof > upon you? No. Read the (alt.atheism) FAQ to find out why. > I give no proofs, I only give testimony to my beliefs. Well enough; if I feel interested, I might even listen. > I will respond to proofs that you att...talk.religion.misc19["from:","mandtbacka@finabo.abo.fi","(mats","andtbacka)","subject:","re:","burden","of","proof","in-reply-to:","ray@engr.latech.edu's","message","of","21","apr","1993","20:34:49","gmt","organization:","unorganized","usenet","postings","uninc.","x-news-reader:","vms","news","1.24","lines:","29","","[","note:","talk.origins","removed","from","crossposting,","as","this","had","no","business","","","going","there","in","the","first","place.","]","","in","<1r4b59$7hg@aurora.engr.latech.edu>","ray@engr.latech.edu","writes:","",">","if","i","make","a","statement,","\"that","god","exists,","loves","me,","etc.\"","but","in","no","way",">","insist","that","you","believe","it,","does","that","place","a","burden","of","proof","upon","me.","","","","","","","","no,","but","you're","not","achieving","anything","either.","if","you","don't","want","to","argue","the","point","you're","stating,","why","do","you","bother","stating","it?","",">","if","you","insist","that","god","doesn't","exist,","does","that","place","a","burden","of","proof","",">","upon","you?","","","","","","","","no.","read","the","(alt.atheism)","faq","to","find","out","why.","",">","i","give","no","proofs,","i","only","give","testimony","to","my","beliefs.","","","","","","","","well","enough;","if","i","feel","interested,","i","might","even","listen.","",">","i","will","respond","to","proofs","that","you","attempt","to","disprove","my","beliefs.","","","","","","","","i","won't;","the","task","is","impossible,","and","i","don't","have","to","do","it","in","the","first","place.","why","should","i","even","bother","to","change","or","disprove","your","beliefs?","","","","","","","","-","mats","\"strong","apatheist?\"","andtbacka","","--","","","","disclaimer?","","","\"it's","great","to","be","young","and","insane!\""][0,1000,[18,20,48,80,83,101,103,113,114,115,130,136,145,156,157,158,159,163,170,173,179,180,183,187,191,213,214,230,232,260,261,263,273,274,276,281,299,312,320,328,329,331,333,335,340,343,346,351,361,367,372,373,374,376,382,385,388,406,420,425,426,427,428,429,433,436,444,445,451,453,465,491,493,495,499,510,511,512,514,516,523,525,531,534,544,572,576,597,602,607,616,630,632,650,651,654,656,665,667,683,698,710,712,722,731,732,735,736,740,751,760,762,777,783,793,800,808,831,846,869,899,916,921,927,946,953,960,961,965,973,981,985,986,991,995],[1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,6,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,10,1,2,1,1,4,3,1,1,1,50,1,1,1,1,1,8,2,1,5,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,5,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) Subject: Re: Candida(yeast) Bloom, Fact or Fiction Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 47 In article banschbach@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes: >...I'm not asking anyone here to buy into "The Yeast Connection" book >because I don't know what's in that book, plain and simple. And to be honest >with you, I'm beginning to wish that it was never written. I agree with this consensus that it should not have been written the way it was. My doctor - who claims to have introduced Dr. Crook to the possibility of candida overbloom causing diffuse symptoms way back in 1961 (I have no reason to doubt him on this) - does not like the book because 1) it makes too many unfounded claims, and 2) is horribly written from a scientific viewpoint. On the other hand, my doctor has always kept an open mind on the subject and does believe in aspects of the "yeast connection". But, I believe there is some truth to the 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From: adamsj@gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com Subject: Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity Reply-To: adamsj@gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com Organization: GTE Govt. Systems, Electronics Def. Div. Lines: 18 In article <May.13.02.29.39.1993.1505@geneva.rutgers.edu>, revdak@netcom.com (D. Andrew Kille) writes: > Of course the whole issue is one of discernment. It may be that Satan > is trying to convince us that we know more than God. Or it may be that > God is trying (as God did with Peter) to teach us something we don't > know- that "God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears > him and does what is right is acceptable to him." (Acts 10:34-35). > > revdak@netcom.com Fine, but one of the points of this entire discussion is that "we" (conservative, reformed christians - this could start an argument... But isn't this idea that homosexuality is ok fairly "new" [this century] ? Is there any support for this being a viable viewpoint before this century? I don't know.) don't believe that h...soc.religion.christian1["from:","adamsj@gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com","subject:","re:","homosexuality","issues","in","christianity","reply-to:","adamsj@gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com","organization:","gte","govt.","systems,","electronics","def.","div.","lines:","18","","in","article","<may.13.02.29.39.1993.1505@geneva.rutgers.edu>,","revdak@netcom.com","(d.","andrew","kille)","writes:",">","of","course","the","whole","issue","is","one","of","discernment.","","it","may","be","that","satan",">","is","trying","to","convince","us","that","we","know","more","than","god.","","or","it","may","be","that",">","god","is","trying","(as","god","did","with","peter)","to","teach","us","something","we","don't",">","know-","that","\"god","shows","no","partiality,","but","in","every","nation","anyone","who","fears",">","him","and","does","what","is","right","is","acceptable","to","him.\"","(acts","10:34-35).",">","",">","revdak@netcom.com","","fine,","but","one","of","the","points","of","this","entire","discussion","is","that","\"we\"","(conservative,","reformed","christians","-","this","could","start","an","argument...","but","isn't","this","idea","that","homosexuality","is","ok","fairly","\"new\"","[this","century]","?","is","there","any","support","for","this","being","a","viable","viewpoint","before","this","century?","i","don't","know.)","don't","believe","that","homosexuality","is","\"acceptable","to","him\".","so","your","scripture","quotation","doesn't","work","for","\"us\".","","-jeff","adams-"][0,1000,[0,31,34,35,36,37,44,53,64,83,89,90,91,97,110,134,135,159,167,170,179,185,187,192,208,209,213,217,232,233,236,256,261,263,271,281,296,302,304,306,328,329,333,343,346,368,372,373,374,383,387,388,420,426,428,435,445,451,460,470,475,476,484,491,492,495,499,505,510,511,514,526,527,540,553,564,574,589,607,613,629,646,650,656,660,666,667,669,695,698,710,736,748,751,752,760,779,789,808,811,812,817,823,831,885,890,903,909,936,958,976,977,986,988,993,995,996],[1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,7,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,6,5,1,1,1,4,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: dwilson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Wilson) Subject: Looking for AUDIO/VIDEO/COMPUTER/FURNITURE items Lines: 35 Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA Lines: 35 Unless otherwise noted, I am mainly interested in USED items. If you have (any of) the following for sale, please contact me: EMail mbeck@vtssi.vt.edu Phone (703)552-4381 USMail Michael Beck 1200 Progress Street #5500E Blacksburg, Virginia 24060 Please give as much info as possible (brand, age, condition, etc) ~~~~~~~~~~WANTED as of 10AM, 4/27/93~~~~~~~~~~ COMPUTER EQUIP: 1 CHEAP (<$100) tape drive - pretty much any kind for IBM (Used) 1 Memory expansion card for PS/2 Model 50Z 1 Memory for PS/2 Model 50Z (New or Used) 1 High Density (1.2 mb) 5 1/4 disk drive EXTERNAL NON-COMPUTER EQUIP: 1 TV - 27" or bigger, stereo 1 VCR - 4 Heads, stereo 1 ...misc.forsale12["from:","dwilson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu","(david","wilson)","subject:","looking","for","audio/video/computer/furniture","items","lines:","35","organization:","virginia","tech","computer","science","dept,","blacksburg,","va","lines:","35","","unless","otherwise","noted,","i","am","mainly","interested","in","used","items.","if","you","have","(any","of)","the","following","for","sale,","please","contact","me:","","","","","","","","","email","","","","","","","","","","","mbeck@vtssi.vt.edu","","","","","","","","","phone","","","","","","","","","","","(703)552-4381","","","","","","","","","usmail","","","","","","","","","","michael","beck","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","1200","progress","street","#5500e","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","blacksburg,","virginia","24060","","","please","give","as","much","info","as","possible","(brand,","age,","condition,","etc)","~~~~~~~~~~wanted","as","of","10am,","4/27/93~~~~~~~~~~","","","computer","equip:","","","1","","","","","","","cheap","(<$100)","tape","drive","-","pretty","much","any","kind","for","ibm","(used)","","","1","","","","","","","memory","expansion","card","for","ps/2","model","50z","","","1","","","","","","","memory","for","ps/2","model","50z","(new","or","used)","","","1","","","","","","","high","density","(1.2","mb)","5","1/4","disk","drive","external","","","non-computer","equip:","","","1","","","","","","","tv","-","27\"","or","bigger,","stereo","","","1","","","","","","","vcr","-","4","heads,","stereo","","","1","","","","","","","receiver","-","100","watts","or","more","w/","dolby","prologic","surround","sound","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","capability","","","1","","","","","","","bed","-","full","or","queen","sized","-","local","offers","only,","please","","","1","","","","","","","desk","-","local","offers","only,","please","due","to","shipping","constraints"][0,1000,[18,22,36,44,69,77,78,81,82,91,97,100,104,116,123,124,133,144,151,162,170,173,177,187,188,199,213,250,256,294,299,304,307,315,329,339,343,354,357,372,380,388,394,425,428,429,444,445,449,452,455,463,480,499,502,514,523,524,543,564,572,576,586,588,595,605,608,609,613,624,629,630,633,634,648,653,666,667,668,702,703,710,716,738,744,745,751,761,777,783,788,790,793,841,849,851,854,857,875,886,895,897,903,911,922,953,966,970,973,980,981,983,984,993,994],[1,2,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,196,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,2,2,2,2,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: josephc@cco.caltech.edu (Joseph Chiu) Subject: Re: Clear LCD or LED "sheets" Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 22 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu mbattist@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Battisti) writes: >I am interested in finding a supplier for an array of leds on material which is >transparent when nothing is lit. >I'm not quite sure what LCD screens are like away from the laptop but I would >guess they are not too clear. >An ideal item would be an LED array for which each LED is about 1/2" square. >(Yes very course) This is for distance viewing, but on a window. >Any pointers of suggestions would be much appreciated. What, pray tell, are you putting together? And what about costs? And does it have to be transparent as in totally transparent? Or just transparent enough to allow light from the other side to shine through? -- Joseph Chiu | josephc@cco.caltech.edu "OS/2: You gotta get this thing!" ...sci.electronics10["from:","josephc@cco.caltech.edu","(joseph","chiu)","subject:","re:","clear","lcd","or","led","\"sheets\"","organization:","california","institute","of","technology,","pasadena","lines:","22","distribution:","usa","nntp-posting-host:","sandman.caltech.edu","","mbattist@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu","(mark","a","battisti)","writes:","",">i","am","interested","in","finding","a","supplier","for","an","array","of","leds","on","material","which","is",">transparent","when","nothing","is","lit.","",">i'm","not","quite","sure","what","lcd","screens","are","like","away","from","the","laptop","but","i","would","",">guess","they","are","not","too","clear.","",">an","ideal","item","would","be","an","led","array","for","which","each","led","is","about","1/2\"","square.","","",">(yes","very","course)","","this","is","for","distance","viewing,","but","on","a","window.","",">any","pointers","of","suggestions","would","be","much","appreciated.","","what,","pray","tell,","are","you","putting","together?","","and","what","about","costs?","","and","does","it","have","to","be","transparent","as","in","totally","transparent?","","or","just","transparent","enough","to","allow","light","from","the","other","side","to","shine","through?","","--","","joseph","chiu","","","","","","","","|","josephc@cco.caltech.edu","","\"os/2:","you","gotta","get","this","thing!\"","","msc","380","-","caltech","","|","","","","","","","","","pasadena,","ca","91126","|","","happiness","is","suspending","x-wings","to","make","an","appointment","+1","818","449","5457","","","","|","","calendar","entry","and","to","send","a","fax,","and","resuming","the","game."][0,1000,[18,26,31,36,48,59,76,79,82,83,84,94,103,118,121,132,138,144,163,170,173,187,190,214,218,221,231,239,255,259,281,288,291,293,299,307,314,329,330,333,343,347,372,373,388,393,408,425,428,429,436,439,445,470,475,485,486,495,499,510,511,514,523,524,525,526,536,544,553,558,572,579,597,619,637,642,644,645,656,663,667,674,675,679,680,684,694,698,706,710,713,737,741,751,752,777,781,782,806,808,821,822,823,829,841,843,851,860,872,880,885,887,890,913,916,921,924,931,941,944,959,984,995],[2,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,3,4,2,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,4,3,1,38,2,5,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,5,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,4,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: u009@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal) Subject: Re: Can Radio Freq. Be Used To Measure Distance? Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters Lines: 27 In article <C5v13M.C37@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter) writes: >I'm wondering if it's possible to use radio waves to measure the >distance between a transmitter(s) and receiver? > >Seems to me that you should be able to measure the signal strength >and determine distance. This would be for short distances (2000 ft), >and I would need to have accuracy of 6 inches, or so. > This would be susceptible to fading, multi-path etc. We used to use a system at the shop made by Tellurometer in South Africa. It used a 10 GHz signal between 2 units across the distance to be measured. The 10 GHz was just the carrier: the real signals were several switched ones around 7.5 MHz or so, whose relative phases at the receiver would read out the digits of the distance down to 10 cm if needed. The units came with p...sci.electronics10["from:","u009@csx.cciw.ca","(g.","stewart","beal)","subject:","re:","can","radio","freq.","be","used","to","measure","distance?","organization:","canada","centre","for","inland","waters","lines:","27","","in","article","<c5v13m.c37@bcstec.ca.boeing.com>","rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com","(robert","g.","carpenter)","writes:",">i'm","wondering","if","it's","possible","to","use","radio","waves","to","measure","the",">distance","between","a","transmitter(s)","and","receiver?",">",">seems","to","me","that","you","should","be","able","to","measure","the","signal","strength",">and","determine","distance.","this","would","be","for","short","distances","(2000","ft),",">and","i","would","need","to","have","accuracy","of","6","inches,","or","so.",">","this","would","be","susceptible","to","fading,","multi-path","etc.","we","used","to","use","a","system","at","the","shop","made","by","tellurometer","in","south","africa.","it","used","a","10","ghz","signal","between","2","units","across","the","distance","to","be","measured.","the","10","ghz","was","just","the","carrier:","the","real","signals","were","several","switched","ones","around","7.5","mhz","or","so,","whose","relative","phases","at","the","receiver","would","read","out","the","digits","of","the","distance","down","to","10","cm","if","needed.","the","units","came","with","psychrometers","(sp?)","to","measure","the","relative","humidity","and","instructions","for","correction","of","the","measurements","due","to","rh","and","temp.","they","were","rather","heavy","and","required","an","operator","at","each","end.","current","technology","uses","polarized","reflectors,","dual","polaization","tx/rx","and","psuedo-random","coding","of","a","radar","pulse.","about","the","same","resolution","at","x","band,","much","better","at","47ghz.","(only","one","end","is","heavy",":-)","",").","","","regards,","stu","beal,","ve3mwm,","u009@csx.cciw.ca,","national","water","research","institute,","burlington,","ontario,","canada.","","","\"we'd","made","it","through","yet","another","nuclear","winter","and","","the","lawn","had","just","trapped","and","eaten","it's","first","robin.\"","-","kyle","j.","spiller"][0,1000,[5,9,24,32,34,36,44,48,54,58,69,70,90,96,100,106,111,120,131,132,152,163,170,174,179,181,183,185,187,188,190,199,201,211,217,218,223,227,233,234,241,252,262,279,281,284,299,307,310,324,329,333,338,341,343,344,348,353,356,358,362,367,372,373,375,388,394,396,399,400,420,425,427,428,432,437,445,446,453,470,471,476,477,481,483,488,489,495,496,499,514,516,524,531,537,543,547,551,560,567,579,581,604,605,608,609,639,641,643,646,650,651,654,656,660,665,667,671,675,689,691,702,704,707,710,721,737,751,752,755,756,757,758,760,777,778,779,780,796,802,808,810,816,822,826,827,831,833,840,845,856,857,880,884,885,903,910,911,927,931,941,955,957,959,962,964,979,989,993,995],[1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,6,1,2,2,1,2,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,7,1,1,4,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,7,2,1,12,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,16,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu (Gary Built Like Villanueva Huckabay) Subject: A Warning to Homeowners, Low Flying Aircraft, and Astronomers. Organization: Pitchers Who Can't Throw Strikes, Limited. (Wakefield Division) Lines: 11 Oakland, California, Sunday, April 25th, 1:05 PM PDT: Jose Mesa vs. Storm Davis. You have been warned. -- * Gary Huckabay * "Outside?! That was right down the bleedin' pipe, * * "Balder than any * Kenny! I realize I don't have great control, but * * Dave on the net. * c'mon!" "Gary, that was a styrofoam cup. The * * Really." * plate's a foot to your right. Throw the ball." * rec.sport.baseball3["from:","ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu","(gary","built","like","villanueva","huckabay)","subject:","a","warning","to","homeowners,","low","flying","aircraft,","and","astronomers.","organization:","pitchers","who","can't","throw","strikes,","limited.","(wakefield","division)","lines:","11","","oakland,","california,","sunday,","april","25th,","1:05","pm","pdt:","","jose","mesa","vs.","storm","davis.","","you","have","been","warned.","","--","","*","","","gary","huckabay","","","*","\"outside?!","","that","was","right","down","the","bleedin'","pipe,","*","*","\"balder","than","any","","*","","kenny!","","i","realize","i","don't","have","great","control,","but","*","*","","dave","on","the","net.","*","","c'mon!\"","","\"gary,","that","was","a","styrofoam","cup.","","the","","","","*","*","","","","","","really.\"","","","","","*","","plate's","a","foot","to","your","right.","","throw","the","ball.\"","","","*"][0,1000,[12,34,82,83,91,93,102,103,131,135,170,173,198,206,207,209,217,234,248,260,261,263,267,299,300,302,329,330,333,346,369,372,388,425,426,428,446,462,468,503,514,516,535,538,546,568,569,572,574,583,612,618,667,669,671,690,700,710,723,732,751,760,811,813,823,860,864,888,890,903,906,913,918,929,950],[1,12,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,33,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: jakers@Hawaii.Edu Subject: Quantum LPS 240AT (234 meg IDE) forsale $300. Keywords: 234meg IDE harddisk forsale $300. Organization: University of Hawaii Distribution: usa Expires: Sat, 1 May 1993 10:00:00 GMT Lines: 14 Hi netters, Quantum LPS 240AT harddisk forsale. 3.5" frame, 1/3 height. IDE format, master or slave 723 cyl 13 hd 51 s/t = 234.9 real megs Access time of 16 ms. 256K cache on the drive Asking $300. email me: jakers@uhunix3.uhcc.hawaii.edu misc.forsale12["from:","jakers@hawaii.edu","subject:","quantum","lps","240at","(234","meg","ide)","forsale","$300.","keywords:","","234meg","ide","harddisk","forsale","$300.","organization:","university","of","hawaii","distribution:","usa","expires:","sat,","1","may","1993","10:00:00","gmt","lines:","14","","","hi","netters,","","quantum","lps","240at","harddisk","forsale.","","3.5\"","frame,","1/3","height.","ide","format,","master","or","slave","723","cyl","13","hd","51","s/t","=","234.9","real","megs","access","time","of","16","ms.","256k","cache","on","the","drive","","asking","$300.","","","email","me:","","jakers@uhunix3.uhcc.hawaii.edu"][0,1000,[4,17,24,31,82,153,157,163,164,177,187,224,242,270,299,304,319,335,343,354,367,372,375,377,406,412,428,451,468,474,476,500,514,541,588,594,603,612,619,633,666,667,677,691,710,719,743,744,751,782,786,794,845,853,864,878,892,895,903,924,926,930,960],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) Subject: Re: TRIDENT 8800CS DRIVERS FOR WIN 3.1? Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Lines: 24 Fast-Eddie Felson (JMARTTILA@FINABO.ABO.FI) wrote: : Hello : I've got an old Trident 8800CS SVGA card, but lacking suitable drivers : for windows 3.1. The drivers for the 8900 series seem to be incompatible. : Does anyone have an idea of where to get these drivers? Address for an : ftp-site would be nice. : Thanks in advance : Jouni : _______________________________________________________________________________ : Jouni Marttila - Yo-kyl{ 11 B 25, 20540 Turku, FINLAND - +358 21 374624____ : jmarttila@abo.fi - jmarttila@finabo - abovax::jmarttila - jjmartti@utu.fi__ : PGP-key available via finger jmarttila@abo.fi ___________________________ You can find the drivers at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the /msdos/windows3 sub- directory. I think the files are called "tvgawin31a.zip" and "tvgawin3...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","tmc@spartan.ac.brocku.ca","(tim","ciceran)","subject:","re:","trident","8800cs","drivers","for","win","3.1?","organization:","brock","university,","st.","catharines","ontario","x-newsreader:","tin","[version","1.1","pl9]","lines:","24","","fast-eddie","felson","(jmarttila@finabo.abo.fi)","wrote:",":","hello","",":","i've","got","an","old","trident","8800cs","svga","card,","but","lacking","suitable","drivers",":","for","windows","3.1.","the","drivers","for","the","8900","series","seem","to","be","incompatible.",":","does","anyone","have","an","idea","of","where","to","get","these","drivers?","address","for","an",":","ftp-site","would","be","nice.","","",":","thanks","in","advance","",":","jouni","",":","_______________________________________________________________________________",":","jouni","marttila","-","yo-kyl{","11","b","25,","","20540","turku,","","finland","-","+358","21","374624____",":","jmarttila@abo.fi","-","jmarttila@finabo","-","abovax::jmarttila","-","jjmartti@utu.fi__",":","pgp-key","available","via","finger","jmarttila@abo.fi","___________________________","","you","can","find","the","drivers","at","wuarchive.wustl.edu","in","the","/msdos/windows3","sub-","directory.","","i","think","the","files","are","called","\"tvgawin31a.zip\"","and","\"tvgawin31b.zip.\"","those","are","the","latest","drivers","available","as","far","as","i","know.","","tmc.","(tmc@spartan.ac.brocku.ca)"][0,1000,[7,32,36,37,41,48,60,62,83,108,115,138,139,163,169,176,184,201,202,209,224,230,237,277,299,302,310,316,329,333,336,343,344,361,371,372,374,384,388,398,411,414,420,425,428,432,444,445,461,487,498,499,503,510,514,539,549,551,564,572,588,589,595,600,624,633,656,667,672,674,676,690,698,703,710,716,751,752,754,756,759,760,768,777,779,795,798,808,811,830,833,840,850,866,871,874,908,914,926,958,959,960,969,972,979,996],[1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,11,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,11,1,1,5,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: willmore@iastate.edu (David Willmore) Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Lines: 61 wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes: >wayne@amtower.spacecoast.org writes: >IDE also uses DMA techniques. I believe floppy controller also uses DMA, >and most A/D boards also use DMA. DMA is no big deal, and has nothing to >do directly with SCSI. No. The simple $25 style IDE controller does not use DMA. The CPU performs the data transfer with a string move instruction. This requires that the CPU stop what it had been doing and transfer the data. Only the smart drive controllers, be they IDE or SCSI, can transfer via DMA. These controllers tend to cost the same wether they are IDE or SCSI. To get the DMA benefits, IDE must sacrifice it's price advantage *on the controller*. >> For example, when rewinding or formatting a tape, the command is >>issued to the controller and the bus is released to allow access to other >>devices on the bus. 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From: jwg0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN WALTER GEWARTOWSKI) Subject: 20 Playboy Magazines --> 1987 - 1992 Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 51 My roommate left me his Playboy collection which he no longer wants, so I'm offering them to the general public. (THAT'S YOU!) MAKE AN OFFER FOR THE *ENTIRE COLLECTION* I will accept the best offer. (Offer does *NOT* include cheapest method of shipping from Bethlehem, PA) 1992: February (Supermodel Rachel Williams, World Tour, & POM Tanya Beyer) 1991: May (Shannon & Tracy Tweed & POM Carrie Jean Yazel) July (Tall girls, Miss Bulgaria, & POM Wendy Kaye) September (Barbi twins & POM Samantha Dorman) November (La Toya Jackson & POM Tonja Marie Christensen) December (Dian Parkinson from "The Price is Right" & POM Wendy Hamilton) 1990: July (Sharon Stone, Marilyn look-alike, & POM Jacqueline Sheen) October (Girls of the Big West, Gladiator Marisa Pare, & POM 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From: kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) Subject: Re: Persistent vs Chronic Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 29 In article <1rm29k$i7t@hsdndev.harvard.edu> rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes: :In article <enea1-270493135255@enea.apple.com> : enea1@applelink.apple.com (Horace Enea) writes: :>Can anyone out there tell me the difference between a "persistent" disease :>and a "chronic" one? For example, persistent hepatitis vs chronic :>hepatitis. : :I don't think there is a general distinction. Rather, there are :two classes of chronic hepatitis: chronic active hepatitis and chronic :persistent hepatitis. I can't think of any other disease where the :term persistent is used with or in preference to chronic. : :Much as these two terms "chronic active" and "chronic persistent" :sound fuzzy, the actual distinction between the two conditions :is often fairly fuzzy as well. I beg to differ. Chronic *active* hepatitis implies that the disease remains active, a...sci.med5["from:","kxgst1+@pitt.edu","(kenneth","gilbert)","subject:","re:","persistent","vs","chronic","organization:","university","of","pittsburgh","lines:","29","","in","article","<1rm29k$i7t@hsdndev.harvard.edu>","rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu","(david","rind)","writes:",":in","article","<enea1-270493135255@enea.apple.com>",":","enea1@applelink.apple.com","(horace","enea)","writes:",":>can","anyone","out","there","tell","me","the","difference","between","a","\"persistent\"","disease",":>and","a","\"chronic\"","one?","for","example,","persistent","hepatitis","vs","chronic",":>hepatitis.",":",":i","don't","think","there","is","a","general","distinction.","","rather,","there","are",":two","classes","of","chronic","hepatitis:","chronic","active","hepatitis","and","chronic",":persistent","hepatitis.","","i","can't","think","of","any","other","disease","where","the",":term","persistent","is","used","with","or","in","preference","to","chronic.",":",":much","as","these","two","terms","\"chronic","active\"","and","\"chronic","persistent\"",":sound","fuzzy,","the","actual","distinction","between","the","two","conditions",":is","often","fairly","fuzzy","as","well.","","i","beg","to","differ.","","chronic","*active*","hepatitis","implies","that","the","disease","remains","active,","and","generally","leads","to","liver","failure.","","at","the","very","minimum,","the","patient","has","persistently","elevated","liver","enzymes","(what","some","call","\"transaminitis\").","","chronic","*persistant*","hepatitis","simply","means","that","the","patient","has","hbsag","in","his/her","blood","and","can","transmit","the","infection,","but","shows","no","evidence","of","progressive","disease.","","if","i","had","to","choose,","i'd","much","rather","have","the","persistant","type.","","--","","=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=","=","","kenneth","gilbert","","","","","","","","","","","","","","__|__","","","","","","","","university","of","pittsburgh","","","=","=","","general","internal","medicine","","","","","","|","","","","","","\"...dammit,","not","a","programmer!\"","=","=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-="][0,1000,[18,36,50,54,83,91,92,101,109,110,118,138,139,143,146,156,166,170,173,187,208,209,214,216,220,248,251,254,257,273,281,284,287,294,295,299,304,315,319,329,330,333,343,345,346,359,361,372,386,387,388,390,394,396,400,401,404,408,412,413,417,426,428,437,445,453,458,459,460,461,465,470,471,481,492,497,501,509,510,514,519,521,524,529,542,561,564,572,580,589,596,598,605,612,615,619,626,645,650,654,656,667,674,676,694,706,710,715,721,727,731,736,749,751,756,760,762,767,768,771,772,806,808,809,823,831,833,850,885,900,905,909,920,926,944,946,952,956,974,975,995,999],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,6,5,1,1,1,1,44,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,2,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,10,2,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: rwong1@ugly.UVic.CA (Richard Wong) Subject: Voice synth chips Nntp-Posting-Host: ugl-gw.uvic.ca Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada Lines: 3 Does anyone know where I can get some voice synthesis chips?? I am looking for something like the ones that do the time and date stamp on answering machines. sci.electronics10["from:","rwong1@ugly.uvic.ca","(richard","","wong)","subject:","voice","synth","chips","nntp-posting-host:","ugl-gw.uvic.ca","organization:","university","of","victoria,","victoria,","bc,","canada","lines:","3","","does","anyone","know","where","i","can","get","some","voice","synthesis","chips??","i","am","looking","for","something","like","the","ones","that","do","the","time","and","date","stamp","on","answering","machines."][0,1000,[21,36,79,82,95,124,133,134,139,157,173,209,270,315,329,330,333,343,372,385,400,412,418,428,488,514,534,553,567,597,662,667,698,710,712,739,751,760,779,833,838,932,959,962,988],[1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") Subject: Re: UVA Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 2 If you think that kind of uncalled for blanket statement will cause censorship at Mr. Jefferson's university you are wrong. talk.politics.mideast15["from:","ab4z@virginia.edu","(\"andi","beyer\")","subject:","re:","uva","organization:","university","of","virginia","lines:","2","","if","you","think","that","kind","of","uncalled","for","blanket","statement","will","cause","censorship","at","mr.","jefferson's","university","you","are","wrong."][0,1000,[36,44,138,170,171,234,343,372,412,420,425,428,476,514,523,546,564,593,633,667,687,751,756,760,808,856,863,968,969,989,996],[1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: hamiltoj@CS.ColoState.EDU (j hamilton) Subject: Re: VFR + ST11 Owners get hidden feature Nntp-Posting-Host: handel.cs.colostate.edu Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department Keywords: lights Lines: 24 In article <C61r0B.C7@world.std.com> daved@world.std.com (Dave T Dorfman) writes: > >Well the actual ergonomics of the switch make it appear to be a >2 position switch, but sure enough as Deam expected , when >you balance the toggle switch in the center position both the high >and low beams go on. > >This provides a very nice light coverage of the >road. > > Hmmmm I noticed sometime ago that I could do the same on my Virago, and since I don't read many schematics, I didn't really think aobut it too much. Yes it does provide excellent coverage, but I figured it would probably draw a little too much current. I also figured that it was overlapped just to prevent a blank spot of no headlight. Are you saying that these switches are designed for the hi/lo...rec.motorcycles2["from:","hamiltoj@cs.colostate.edu","(j","hamilton)","subject:","re:","vfr","+","st11","owners","get","hidden","feature","nntp-posting-host:","handel.cs.colostate.edu","organization:","colorado","state","university,","computer","science","department","keywords:","lights","lines:","24","","in","article","<c61r0b.c7@world.std.com>","daved@world.std.com","(dave","t","dorfman)","writes:",">",">well","the","actual","ergonomics","of","the","switch","make","it","appear","to","be","a",">2","position","switch,","but","sure","enough","as","deam","expected",",","when",">you","balance","the","toggle","switch","in","the","center","position","both","the","high",">and","low","beams","go","on.",">",">this","provides","a","very","nice","light","coverage","of","the",">road.",">",">","hmmmm","i","noticed","sometime","ago","that","i","could","do","the","same","on","my","virago,","and","since","i","don't","read","many","schematics,","i","didn't","really","think","aobut","it","too","much.","","","yes","it","does","provide","excellent","coverage,","but","i","figured","it","would","probably","draw","a","little","too","much","current.","","i","also","figured","that","it","was","","overlapped","just","to","prevent","a","blank","spot","of","no","headlight.","","are","you","saying","","that","these","switches","are","designed","for","the","hi/lo","combination?","","","","------------------------------------------------------------------------","|jay","hamillton","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","xv1000","with","more","chrome","than","a","harley|","|hamiltoj@handel.cs.colostate.edu","|","","time","to","change","the","oil","again?!?!?!?","|","|dod#982","","and","","kotcm","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","-------------------------------------------------------------------------"][0,1000,[0,17,36,76,77,79,82,83,84,116,121,138,151,157,158,163,167,170,173,178,179,185,188,192,194,206,213,231,234,239,261,275,277,280,287,288,294,297,299,300,307,310,311,313,329,332,333,339,343,344,346,349,360,370,372,376,388,391,403,411,424,425,426,428,430,431,436,445,454,456,461,470,495,506,514,518,519,521,524,525,534,539,547,555,561,564,572,585,608,618,620,624,628,629,644,650,656,667,675,676,693,694,698,705,710,714,732,736,739,743,748,751,752,756,760,765,772,777,782,792,808,809,819,821,845,854,860,863,867,870,880,909,916,917,934,944,959,963,982,984,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,2,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,6,1,2,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,82,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,9,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney) Subject: Re: HELP! Some nut is threatening to sue! Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 44 I don't wish to rehash the PGP patent issue at all, but I do feel that some potential misconceptions in interpretting intellectual property laws need to be raised. In article <a_rubin.736125803@dsg4.dse.beckman.com> a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin) writes: > >If PGP violates RSAs patents, then only executing PGP could be a violation. >Distributing PGP could be contributory infringement, but the PGP >documentation seemed sufficient to me to protect distributors (before I >deleted it -- using PGP might be a patent violation in the US, so I have no >need to keep it.) You are correct that executing PGP would be a violation (unless the patent were declared invalid by the courts), but... there is a question as to when, how, or if distributing PGP would be a violation. If the person or company 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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) Subject: Re: SQUIDS and Dealers Distribution: na Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA Lines: 25 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] kevin.l.stell (kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com) wrote: : [... SQUIDS ...] : I felt embarassed at this point to be a motorcyclist. I felt the eyes of those : in cages, witnessing this display, then glancing over to the dealers lot and : damning all those on two wheels. Needless to say, my friend felt a little : uncomfortable and we left. Did you express your embarrassment to the owner? I don't blame you for being embarrassed, but I would have let my feeling be known that the behaviour of their sales staff and apparent enjoyment of such behaviour just cost them a sale and all further sales. : I will now turn off my frustration and go ride... peacefully, to clear my : anger. I only hope that the cop who is following me home, has an open : mind and doesn't associate me with them. Sound good. Enjoy....rec.motorcycles2["from:","kenm@array.com","(ken","murphy)","subject:","re:","squids","and","dealers","distribution:","na","organization:","array","microsystems,","colorado","springs,","co.","usa","lines:","25","x-newsreader:","tin","[version","1.1","pl8]","","kevin.l.stell","(kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com)","wrote:","",":","[...","squids","...]","",":","i","felt","embarassed","at","this","point","to","be","a","motorcyclist.","i","felt","the","eyes","of","those",":","in","cages,","witnessing","this","display,","then","glancing","over","to","the","dealers","lot","and",":","damning","all","those","on","two","wheels.","needless","to","say,","my","friend","felt","a","little",":","uncomfortable","and","we","left.","","","did","you","express","your","embarrassment","to","the","owner?","","i","don't","blame","you","for","being","embarrassed,","but","i","would","have","let","my","feeling","be","known","that","the","behaviour","of","","their","sales","staff","and","apparent","enjoyment","of","such","behaviour","just","cost","them","","a","sale","and","all","further","sales.","",":","i","will","now","turn","off","my","frustration","and","go","ride...","peacefully,","to","clear","my",":","anger.","i","only","hope","that","the","cop","who","is","following","me","home,","has","an","open",":","mind","and","doesn't","associate","me","with","them.","","","sound","good.","","enjoy.","",":","btw,","i","can't","afford","a","new","bike.....","","who","can?","","merf"][0,1000,[0,1,25,31,32,36,37,50,62,66,77,82,83,91,98,99,101,133,139,162,163,164,170,173,183,184,197,217,232,235,238,244,248,263,272,281,289,299,307,312,329,333,334,343,352,356,357,372,373,374,381,382,383,388,391,403,408,420,425,426,428,432,437,445,456,462,471,490,491,497,501,514,516,527,540,545,555,573,580,592,595,599,600,607,624,625,650,656,667,673,675,695,706,710,711,722,735,751,752,756,760,765,774,781,782,783,808,821,838,877,886,898,899,916,922,924,926,931,966,968,979,993,994,996],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,7,7,1,3,1,1,1,15,2,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,5,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,9,1,1,3,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts) Subject: Re: Power, signal surges in home... Nntp-Posting-Host: storm.cfnr.colostate.edu Organization: Colorado Concert Sound Lines: 36 In article <1993Apr26.045628.5617@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes: >brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes: > >: Listen to the interference. If you hear voices clearly, it almost >: certainly ISN'T ham radio, and might well be CB. If you can record a >: bit of it, you could take the tape over to a local ham operator's house >: and ask him for his opinion of what you're hearing. Most communities > >You cannot do that legally. Why can't he record it legally? It may not be admissable in court, but recording for personal use is legal. If he wants to play it for his ham friend, that's legal too, as long as he doesn't charge admission. >Unfortunately, most consumer equipment is succeptable - it is all poorly >designed. Here, Here! > >: (BTW: hams are ALLOWED amplifiers...sci.electronics10["from:","galen@picea.cfnr.colostate.edu","(galen","watts)","subject:","re:","power,","signal","surges","in","home...","nntp-posting-host:","storm.cfnr.colostate.edu","organization:","colorado","concert","sound","lines:","36","","in","article","<1993apr26.045628.5617@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>","billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com","(bill","nelson)","writes:",">brian@ucsd.edu","(brian","kantor)","writes:",">",">:","listen","to","the","interference.","","if","you","hear","voices","clearly,","it","almost",">:","certainly","isn't","ham","radio,","and","might","well","be","cb.","","if","you","can","record","a",">:","bit","of","it,","you","could","take","the","tape","over","to","a","local","ham","operator's","house",">:","and","ask","him","for","his","opinion","of","what","you're","hearing.","","most","communities",">",">you","cannot","do","that","legally.","","","why","can't","he","record","it","legally?","","it","may","not","be","admissable","in","court,","but","recording","for","personal","use","is","legal.","","if","he","wants","to","play","it","for","his","ham","friend,","that's","legal","too,","as","long","as","he","doesn't","charge","admission.","",">unfortunately,","most","consumer","equipment","is","succeptable","-","it","is","all","poorly",">designed.","","here,","here!",">",">:","(btw:","hams","are","allowed","amplifiers;","cb","isn't.","","\"illegal","ham","amplifier\"",">:","doesn't","compute.)",">",">it","does,","but","not","for","a","mobile","radio.","there","are","very","few","mobile","rigs","that",">could","power","a","1500","watt","amplifier.",">bill","","it","doesn't","actually","have","to","be","1500","watts","at","100","feet.","","i've","heard","radio","transmissions","from","concert","security","over","guitar","amps","with","no","guitar","plugged","in,","and","security","uses","radios","transmitting","2-5","watts","into","a","rubber","duck","antenna,","which","acts","more","like","a","dummy","load","than","an","antenna.","","hey","bill,","where","were","you","three","weeks","ago","when","all","this","stuff","was","posted","and","dealt","with?","","galen","watts,","kf0yj"][0,1000,[4,16,18,30,36,62,76,79,83,93,110,111,112,113,114,123,133,138,139,154,155,156,157,160,167,170,173,179,185,197,210,213,222,228,230,232,234,236,243,248,256,258,261,271,273,280,281,286,289,297,299,308,310,317,328,330,333,343,346,350,352,353,357,364,372,373,377,380,383,385,388,400,404,421,422,425,428,444,445,446,447,468,470,475,478,489,490,495,499,514,521,525,526,532,534,547,567,570,572,573,576,597,599,604,608,609,613,618,619,622,629,634,650,656,666,667,690,692,695,701,710,720,722,726,732,736,751,752,756,760,765,770,783,808,811,813,816,825,831,833,842,843,849,851,855,856,866,873,878,886,887,891,904,921,931,932,939,944,949,958,960,961,962,967,968,972,973,980,985,995,997],[1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,10,2,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,5,1,7,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,15,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) Subject: Re: leaking memory resources in 3.1 Organization: George Washington University Lines: 28 In article <C6Aw83.H7v@csn.org> richardf@teal.csn.org (IrieMon) writes: >dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman) writes: >: I am running Win 3.1 with NDW 2.2 on a 486sx with 8 meg of memory and a >: 6 meg perm swap file and am getting exceedingly frustrated that my >: applications are not giving back system resources when I close them. >: >I've noticed this also. The way it was explained to me is that Windows >does not clear the upper memory blocks after a program is done. Anyone >out there know if this is why? > There was a post about something similar a while back. It seems windows does *not* take it upon itself to free up any sys. resources an applllication is using when that application is done. That job is left entirely to the application. that is, the application has to clean up after itself when it qu...comp.os.ms-windows.misc9["from:","louray@seas.gwu.edu","(michael","panayiotakis)","subject:","re:","leaking","memory","resources","in","3.1","organization:","george","washington","university","lines:","28","","in","article","<c6aw83.h7v@csn.org>","richardf@teal.csn.org","(iriemon)","writes:","",">dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu","(daniel","mittleman)","writes:",">:","","","","","i","am","running","win","3.1","with","ndw","2.2","on","a","486sx","with","8","meg","of","memory","and","a",">:","","","","","6","meg","perm","swap","file","and","am","getting","exceedingly","frustrated","that","my",">:","","","","","applications","are","not","giving","back","system","resources","when","i","close","them.",">:",">i've","noticed","this","also.","","the","way","it","was","explained","to","me","is","that","windows",">does","not","clear","the","upper","memory","blocks","after","a","program","is","done.","","anyone",">out","there","know","if","this","is","why?",">","","","there","was","a","post","about","something","similar","a","while","back.","","it","seems","windows","does","*not*","take","it","upon","itself","to","free","up","any","sys.","resources","an","applllication","is","using","when","that","application","is","done.","","that","job","is","left","entirely","to","the","application.","","that","is,","the","application","has","to","clean","up","after","itself","when","it","quits.","","anyone","out","there","know","if","there","is","a","utility","for","windows","which","","will","clean","up","sys.","resources","when","an","application","quits","(mother.zip???).","","peace,","mickey","--","","pe-||","||","","michael","panayiotakis:","louray@seas.gwu.edu","","ace||","||","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","...!uunet!seas.gwu.edu!louray","||||","\\/|","","*how","do","make","a","ms-windows",".grp","file","reflect","a","hd","directory??*","\\\\\\\\","","","|","","\"well","i","ain't","always","right,","but","i've","never","been","wrong..\"(gd)"][0,1000,[4,13,18,20,36,53,73,76,77,82,83,91,108,122,126,128,132,138,139,159,166,169,170,173,179,204,209,218,234,245,261,281,289,300,310,313,325,329,333,335,339,340,343,371,372,373,380,388,412,413,415,418,420,428,429,430,440,445,464,470,471,484,495,497,514,525,534,535,541,543,549,553,561,565,567,580,597,624,639,642,644,648,649,650,654,656,662,667,674,675,694,698,707,710,712,716,735,739,742,748,749,751,752,756,760,763,777,779,781,788,791,792,798,802,808,826,830,831,833,835,850,855,877,901,904,906,910,916,922,924,946,955,963,965,973,981,995],[2,1,2,1,1,2,2,4,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,3,10,3,2,2,2,1,2,1,4,7,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,2,1,1,65,4,1,4,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,2,3,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,1,1,2,1,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[0,0,4,1,2,5,4,2,7,96,5,10,2,6,5,2,2,2,0,2,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0.025477707006369428,0.006369426751592357,0.012738853503184714,0.03184713375796178,0.025477707006369428,0.012738853503184714,0.044585987261146494,0.6114649681528662,0.03184713375796178,0.06369426751592357,0.012738853503184714,0.03821656050955414,0.03184713375796178,0.012738853503184714,0.012738853503184714,0.012738853503184714,0,0.012738853503184714,0]]9
From: tung@paaiec.enet.dec.com Subject: Re: Opinions on Allergy (Hay Fever) shots? Reply-To: tung@paaiec.enet.dec.com () Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 9 I have just started taking allergy shots a month ago and is still wondering what I am getting into. A friend of mine told me that the body change every 7 years (whatever that means) and I don't need those antibody-building allergy shots at all. Does that make sense to anyone? BTW, can someone summarize what is in the Consumer Report February, 1988 article? sci.med5["from:","tung@paaiec.enet.dec.com","subject:","re:","opinions","on","allergy","(hay","fever)","shots?","reply-to:","tung@paaiec.enet.dec.com","()","organization:","digital","equipment","corporation","lines:","9","","","i","have","just","started","taking","allergy","shots","a","month","ago","and","is","","still","wondering","what","i","am","getting","into.","a","friend","of","mine","told","me","that","the","body","change","every","7","years","(whatever","that","means)","and","i","don't","need","those","antibody-building","allergy","shots","at","all.","does","that","make","sense","to","anyone?","","btw,","can","someone","summarize","what","is","in","the","consumer","report","february,","1988","article?"][0,1000,[3,5,33,82,132,139,150,158,170,173,186,192,222,224,232,238,255,281,299,307,329,333,343,353,372,388,426,428,445,450,465,471,475,508,514,525,526,535,537,572,600,609,625,633,652,665,667,698,710,736,750,751,752,756,760,775,781,784,800,801,808,820,827,833,841,845,911,936,977,994],[2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) Subject: Re: Overreacting (was Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more) Article-I.D.: rwing.2109 Distribution: na Organization: Totally Unorganized Lines: 99 In article <116530@bu.edu> uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes: <In article <1993Apr22.134214.18517@rick.dgbt.doc.ca> jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes: <>In this giant bally-ho over this Clipper chip I noticed a rather <>disturbing trend in some of the E-mail and posts I've tossing back and <>forth. <> [ ... deleted ... ] <A circut court judge in Illinois once said "When dealing with a government <that seeks continually new and more creative ways to spy on its' citizenry, <one cannot discourage the move to empower the common citizen with the means <to parry this attack on personal privacy." < <(Unfortunately the comment was with regard to the banning of radar <detectors....) < <The point remains. More and more I see the government slowly washing <away privacy. 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From: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) Subject: Mosque in Jewish quarter (was Re: Israeli destruction of...) Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University Lines: 17 In <EGGERTJ.93May9230207@moses.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@moses.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes: >It is important to note that there remains at least one mosque in the >Jewish quarter of the Old City, at least according to my map. You >might be able to find it just north of the Hurva synagogue. Is this >mosque really still there? Was this mosque built by "squatters" too? When I was in Jerusalem a couple of years ago, our guide told us the story of that mosque - not sure if it was true. Apparently, it was built by a Jewish convert to Islam. He had had a dispute with his neighbours, and built the mosque "davka" to annoy them. It's a cute story, but not sure if it's true... -- David F. Skoll talk.politics.mideast15["from:","dfs@doe.carleton.ca","(david","f.","skoll)","subject:","mosque","in","jewish","quarter","(was","re:","israeli","destruction","of...)","organization:","dept.","of","electronics,","carleton","university","lines:","17","","in","<eggertj.93may9230207@moses.ll.mit.edu>","eggertj@moses.ll.mit.edu","(jim","eggert","x6127","g41)","writes:","",">it","is","important","to","note","that","there","remains","at","least","one","mosque","in","the",">jewish","quarter","of","the","old","city,","at","least","according","to","my","map.","","you",">might","be","able","to","find","it","just","north","of","the","hurva","synagogue.","","is","this",">mosque","really","still","there?","","was","this","mosque","built","by","\"squatters\"","too?","","when","i","was","in","jerusalem","a","couple","of","years","ago,","our","guide","told","us","the","story","of","that","mosque","-","not","sure","if","it","was","true.","","apparently,","it","was","built","by","a","jewish","convert","to","islam.","","he","had","had","a","dispute","with","his","neighbours,","and","built","the","mosque","\"davka\"","to","annoy","them.","","it's","a","cute","story,","but","not","sure","if","it's","true...","","--","david","f.","skoll"][0,1000,[18,44,68,76,83,127,156,159,168,170,172,173,194,199,208,214,220,223,234,239,241,281,307,310,315,329,333,343,349,355,356,372,373,380,388,412,422,425,426,428,437,445,450,453,468,479,495,496,499,510,514,532,537,568,576,581,594,629,650,656,657,662,665,667,672,675,704,710,714,724,749,751,753,756,757,760,767,793,800,803,805,808,821,831,835,843,847,849,898,903,906,908,909,916,921,922,958,991,995,997,999],[2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,6,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,5,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,5,1,1,1,10,2,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) Subject: Re: So, do any XXXX, I mean police officers read this stuff? Organization: University of East Anglia Lines: 8 bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner) writes: >And introducing a new polysyllabic word (strabismic, for example) Polysyllabic is polysyllabic too.... :-) rec.motorcycles2["from:","mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk","(mike","sixsmith)","subject:","re:","so,","do","any","xxxx,","i","mean","police","officers","read","this","stuff?","organization:","university","of","east","anglia","lines:","8","","bgardner@pebbles.es.com","(blaine","gardner)","writes:","",">and","introducing","a","new","polysyllabic","word","(strabismic,","for","example)","","","polysyllabic","is","polysyllabic","too....","",":-)"][0,1000,[25,36,91,105,170,280,281,284,317,325,329,343,348,372,373,412,428,445,461,514,519,534,576,580,650,653,667,714,716,751,756,804,808,810,826,837,884,909,972,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: u9245669@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk Subject: Christianity and repeated lives Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 38 >There is a paragraph in the New Testament which in my opinion, clearly makes >a positive inference to reincarnation. I don't remember which one it is off of >the top of my head, but it basically goes like this: Jesus is talking with the >apostles and they ask him why the pharisees say that before the messiah can >come Elijah must first come. Jesus replies that Elijah has come, but they did >not recognize him. It then says that the apostles perceived that he was refering >to John the Baptist. This seems to me to clearly imply reincarnation. This was a popular belief in the Judaism of Jesus` time, that Elijah would return again (as he had been taken in to heaven in a chariot and did not actually die). 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From: bohnert@leland.Stanford.EDU (matthew bohnert) Subject: Re: Why is Barry Bonds not batting 4th? Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Lines: 23 >>consistent hitter -- definitely the best in the National League. IMHO, to >>have Williams, a streaky hitter (and not really a clutch hitter) batting >>4th ahead of Bonds is simply an injustice to the Giants and fans of the >>Giants. > >(2) Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get > more good pitches to hit. This is important since he struggles > so much with breaking balls. Opposing pitchers don't want to > walk Williams to get to Bonds. > You're definitely correct in that Williams absolutely has to be sandwiched in between Clark and Bonds. He must, and I mean MUST, get fastballs to hit...otherwise he becomes little more than Sixto Lezcano in disguise. What I would suggest is perhaps batting Bonds, Williams, and Clark 3-4-5, the reason being that I feel Bonds' potential baseste...rec.sport.baseball3["from:","bohnert@leland.stanford.edu","(matthew","bohnert)","subject:","re:","why","is","barry","bonds","not","batting","4th?","organization:","dsg,","stanford","university,","ca","94305,","usa","lines:","23","",">>consistent","hitter","--","definitely","the","best","in","the","national","league.","","imho,","to","",">>have","williams,","a","streaky","hitter","(and","not","really","a","clutch","hitter)","batting",">>4th","ahead","of","bonds","is","simply","an","injustice","to","the","giants","and","fans","of","the",">>giants.",">",">(2)","","","having","bonds","batting","behind","williams","means","that","matt","will","get",">","","","","","","more","good","pitches","to","hit.","","this","is","important","since","he","struggles",">","","","","","","so","much","with","breaking","balls.","","opposing","pitchers","don't","want","to",">","","","","","","walk","williams","to","get","to","bonds.",">","","you're","definitely","correct","in","that","williams","absolutely","has","to","be","sandwiched","in","between","clark","and","bonds.","","he","must,","and","i","mean","must,","get","fastballs","to","hit...otherwise","he","becomes","little","more","than","sixto","lezcano","in","disguise.","what","i","would","suggest","is","perhaps","batting","bonds,","williams,","and","clark","3-4-5,","the","reason","being","that","i","feel","bonds'","potential","basestealing","abilities","are","wasted","when","he's","stuck","behind","two","slow","runners.","i","think","the","chance","of","getting","20-30","extra","stolen","bases","with","bonds","in","the","3","spot","would","more","than","offset","any","drop","in","in","run","production","by","having","","clark","in","the","5","spot.","","matt"][0,1000,[6,8,18,74,76,89,91,113,115,116,125,132,133,138,142,149,151,163,165,168,170,173,174,179,203,213,223,224,256,261,262,268,281,282,287,290,300,310,319,329,333,343,344,362,364,366,368,369,372,373,374,388,389,390,391,394,408,418,420,426,428,445,464,468,478,481,506,511,514,519,524,526,527,537,539,543,556,559,564,577,580,582,585,607,623,629,631,632,636,650,653,656,667,675,687,689,691,694,710,712,713,720,732,751,752,755,760,763,782,808,837,840,842,849,850,874,880,885,888,903,909,910,921,959,967,973,988,995,997],[1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,3,2,1,1,5,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,4,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,26,2,1,8,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,2,3,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: johnn@eskimo.com (John Navitsky) Subject: Monitors - Nanao? Article-I.D.: eskimo.C5uw1t.3HI Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<= Lines: 30 Hello, I've been following discussions on 17" monitors in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware and noted that the Nanao seems to get very good reviews. I'm interested in getting more information about Nanao's products as well as some others that may fit the bill. I would like a monitor that can handle high resolutions like 1024x1024 NI. I'm envisioning using this monitor on an Amiga 4000 or Amiga 2000 w/a graphics board like the Retina, and/or on a Sun like the SPARCstation LX. Basically I want a high resolution versital monitor. This monitor need not be large (=>17") if it meets the brief requirements as outlined above. I've been very happy with a 16" on Suns and could probably cope with smaller at home. I'm interested if anyone has more details on high quality Sony and Hitatchi monitors since they seem to be used on Sun'...comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware11["from:","johnn@eskimo.com","(john","navitsky)","subject:","monitors","-","nanao?","article-i.d.:","eskimo.c5uw1t.3hi","organization:","=>eskimo","north","(206)","367-3837","seattle,","wa.<=","lines:","30","","hello,","i've","been","following","discussions","on","17\"","monitors","in","","comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware","and","noted","that","the","nanao","seems","to","get","very","good","reviews.","","i'm","interested","in","getting","more","information","about","nanao's","products","as","well","as","some","others","that","may","fit","the","bill.","","","","","i","would","like","a","monitor","that","can","handle","high","resolutions","like","1024x1024","ni.","i'm","envisioning","using","this","monitor","on","an","amiga","4000","or","amiga","2000","w/a","graphics","board","like","the","retina,","and/or","on","a","sun","like","the","sparcstation","lx.","","basically","i","want","a","high","resolution","versital","monitor.","","this","monitor","need","not","be","large","(=>17\")","if","it","meets","the","brief","requirements","as","outlined","above.","","i've","been","very","happy","with","a","16\"","on","suns","and","could","probably","cope","with","smaller","at","home.","","i'm","interested","if","anyone","has","more","details","on","high","quality","sony","and","hitatchi","monitors","since","they","seem","to","be","used","on","sun's","fairly","often","and","look","pretty","good","(to","me","at","least).","","i","haven't","seem","them","brought","up","in","c.s.i.p.h","very","often","as","are","mag","and","viewsonic.","","ok,","stuff","i'd","like","to","find","out:","","how","can","i","get","ahold","of","nanao?","","what","are","the","products","in","their","line?","","what","are","the","technical","specs?","","esp.","what","scan","freq","and","max","resolutions","can","they","handle?","","what's","list","and","street","cost","-","if","avail.","from","a","third","party,","and","where","can","i","get","ahold","of","them?","","same","info","for","sony","and","hitatchi.","","thank","you","very","much!!","","","--","","",",`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,","",",`,`john","navitsky`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`johnn@eskimo.com,`,`,`,","",",`,`exercise","a","right","today,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,","",",`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,"][0,1000,[11,18,36,48,56,57,75,78,82,83,85,87,91,104,110,116,127,128,132,138,139,141,154,157,161,163,168,170,173,174,182,187,191,199,209,213,235,237,247,254,256,267,269,272,281,283,286,289,297,310,311,321,322,329,330,333,343,346,362,372,373,375,385,388,390,393,400,401,409,419,425,428,445,471,482,490,495,497,499,506,510,512,514,519,526,533,535,537,543,544,553,555,572,574,576,580,583,585,588,605,612,624,629,635,648,650,656,657,659,666,667,669,678,710,712,728,740,744,750,751,752,753,755,756,760,767,771,777,779,782,798,800,803,825,826,833,854,865,875,893,894,906,921,922,924,926,930,939,944,950,952,959,978,980,984,986,993,997],[1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,2,1,3,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,9,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,2,1,1,2,5,5,9,2,1,1,27,2,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,2,2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[2,3,1,3,2,1,5,0,21,131,4,21,11,18,9,1,2,1,3,1,0]][1,21,[],[0.008333333333333333,0.0125,0.004166666666666667,0.0125,0.008333333333333333,0.004166666666666667,0.020833333333333332,0,0.0875,0.5458333333333333,0.016666666666666666,0.0875,0.04583333333333333,0.075,0.0375,0.004166666666666667,0.008333333333333333,0.004166666666666667,0.0125,0.004166666666666667,0]]9
From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Lines: 42 In article <CMM.0.90.2.735386976.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no> Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes: >I don't remember the figures EXACTLY, but there were about 3500 deaths in Texas >in 1991 that was caused by guns..... >This is more than those beeing killed in car-ACCIDENTS! >(Yes, there could be that low sentences or high poverty could influence the >figures but they're still *pretty* high right??) >I also believe Texas has some of the most liberal 'gun-laws' in USA...... And you'd be wrong about that too. Note that Texas isn't unique in this "more with-gun deaths than with-car deaths", but some of the other states where it happens have extremely strict gun laws. Oops - so much for the "meaning". 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From: swf@elsegundoca.ncr.com (Stan Friesen) Subject: Re: Re:Major Views of the Trinity Reply-To: swf@elsegundoca.ncr.com Lines: 31 In article <May.9.05.41.12.1993.27549@athos.rutgers.edu>, Bocher writes: |> |> It seems that during the Middle Ages, it was customary for pastors to |> explain the Trinity to their parishoners by analogy to water. |> Water is water, but can exist in three forms--liquid, ice and vapor. |> Thus it is possible for one essence to exist in three forms. This sounds to me like a sort of generic modalism (in the the three phases of water are but different modes of behavior of the same physical stuff). It certainly does not seem to me to describe the orthodox position. [Of course, I suppose that the medieval view of water may have been different, but now we know that the phases of water are just different *behaviors* of the same physical stuff - different modes, not different identities - but perhaps the medieval people did not know that]. |> And recently, th...soc.religion.christian1["from:","swf@elsegundoca.ncr.com","(stan","friesen)","subject:","re:","re:major","views","of","the","trinity","reply-to:","swf@elsegundoca.ncr.com","lines:","31","","in","article","<may.9.05.41.12.1993.27549@athos.rutgers.edu>,","bocher","writes:","|>","","|>","it","seems","that","during","the","middle","ages,","it","was","customary","for","pastors","to","","|>","explain","the","trinity","to","their","parishoners","by","analogy","to","water.","|>","water","is","water,","but","can","exist","in","three","forms--liquid,","ice","and","vapor.","|>","thus","it","is","possible","for","one","essence","to","exist","in","three","forms.","","this","sounds","to","me","like","a","sort","of","generic","modalism","(in","the","the","three","phases","of","water","are","but","different","modes","of","behavior","of","the","same","physical","stuff).","it","certainly","does","not","seem","to","me","to","describe","the","orthodox","position.","","[of","course,","i","suppose","that","the","medieval","view","of","water","may","have","been","different,","but","now","we","know","that","the","phases","of","water","are","just","different","*behaviors*","of","the","same","physical","stuff","-","different","modes,","not","different","identities","-","but","perhaps","the","medieval","people","did","not","know","that].","","|>","and","recently,","the","pastor","of","my","church","drew","an","analogy,","which","i","|>","also","found","useful--a","woman","is","often","percieved","by","others","in","three","|>","ways,","depending","on","their","relationship","to","her--a","mother,","a","wife","and","|>","an","employee","in","a","business.","","this","is","clearly","modalistic","monarchianism,","since","these","three","aspects","depend","solely","on","point","of","view,","and","are","do","not","really","represent","actual","variety","within","the","person.","","do","you","now","begin","to","see","why","","","--","","sarima@teradata.com","","","(formerly","tdatirv!sarima)","","","or","stanley.friesen@elsegundoca.ncr.com"][0,1000,[2,5,6,18,21,26,36,44,50,61,67,69,80,82,83,85,87,89,93,98,100,123,130,138,142,144,150,159,163,170,173,187,188,211,223,225,232,234,235,240,245,252,255,256,260,277,281,284,286,293,299,307,310,326,329,330,333,343,362,372,373,376,382,388,401,409,411,412,425,428,432,435,445,461,470,471,474,478,482,486,489,495,497,499,514,515,518,527,534,535,544,548,550,555,569,585,588,593,597,607,611,631,636,649,656,666,679,684,697,698,701,710,713,719,720,735,736,751,752,759,760,767,777,779,783,791,792,808,825,833,845,856,857,859,860,878,909,916,931,955,961,973,977,993,995],[1,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,4,1,1,4,1,4,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,5,10,1,15,2,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,4,1,3,1,1,1,9,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,13,1,1,1,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael D. Walker) Subject: Re: On Capital Punishment Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 40 gt7122b@prism.gatech.edu (Randal Lee Nicholas Mandock) writes: >Regarding the new draft of the Universal Catechism: > In procuring the common good of society the need could arise > that the aggressor be placed in the position where he cannot > cause harm. By virtue of this, the right and obligation of > public authorities to punish with proportionate penalties, > including the death penalty, is acknowledged. ... > ... To the degree that means other than the death > penalty and military operations are sufficient to keep the > peace, then these non-violent provisions are to be preferred > because they are more in proportion and in keeping with the > final goal of protection of peace and human dignity. EXACTLY!! Read that one sentence in there..."to the degree that means other than the death penalty and military operations are suffi...soc.religion.christian1["from:","mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu","(michael","d.","walker)","subject:","re:","on","capital","punishment","organization:","university","of","illinois","at","urbana","lines:","40","","gt7122b@prism.gatech.edu","(randal","lee","nicholas","mandock)","writes:","",">regarding","the","new","draft","of","the","universal","catechism:","",">","in","procuring","the","common","good","of","society","the","need","could","arise",">","that","the","aggressor","be","placed","in","the","position","where","he","cannot",">","cause","harm.","","by","virtue","of","this,","the","right","and","obligation","of","",">","public","authorities","to","punish","with","proportionate","penalties,",">","including","the","death","penalty,","is","acknowledged.","","...",">","...","","to","the","degree","that","means","other","than","the","death",">","penalty","and","military","operations","are","sufficient","to","keep","the",">","peace,","then","these","non-violent","provisions","are","to","be","preferred",">","because","they","are","more","in","proportion","and","in","keeping","with","the",">","final","goal","of","protection","of","peace","and","human","dignity.","","","","","","exactly!!","","read","that","one","sentence","in","there...\"to","the","degree","","that","means","other","than","the","death","penalty","and","military","operations","are","","sufficient","to","keep","the","peace,","then","these","non-violent","provisions","are","to","","be","preferred...\"","","","i","don't","believe","that","it","is","necessary","for","us","to","murder","criminals","to","keep","","the","peace;","the","church","in","the","united","states","feels","the","same","way,","thus","the","","reason","that","the","catholic","church","has","opposed","every","execution","in","this","","country","in","recent","memory.","",">as","is","clearly","shown","by","this","excerpt,","the","church's","teaching","on","capital",">punishment","remains","today","as","it","has","always","been","in","the","past","-","in","total",">accord","with","my","sentiment","that","i","do","not","disagree","with","the","use","of","deadly",">force","in","those","cases","for","which","this","option","is","justifiable.","","","","","so","what","is","justifiable?","","as","you","stated","very","explicitly","from","the","new","","catechism,","the","only","justifiable","case","is","when","it","is","necessary","to","keep","","the","peace.","","since","that","does","not","apply","*at","all*","to","this","country,","the","","logical","conclusion","(based","on","your","own","premises)","is","that","one","must","be","","opposed","to","*any*","form","of","capital","punishment","in","america.","","","","","just","my","opinions.","","","","","mike","walker","","","","","univ.","of","illinois"][0,1000,[8,13,18,22,23,25,35,36,44,48,50,59,70,76,82,89,92,103,104,114,121,138,139,140,144,156,158,159,168,169,171,172,179,182,208,213,214,222,223,228,247,254,259,261,263,268,275,279,281,282,284,294,304,307,309,313,326,329,333,339,342,343,357,368,372,373,381,388,389,394,412,418,419,421,425,426,428,435,438,439,443,445,446,461,462,467,486,489,495,498,499,505,513,514,525,526,534,535,537,549,559,569,571,572,574,576,580,585,594,597,600,615,621,629,633,638,644,650,656,666,667,671,673,674,684,687,697,698,710,735,746,751,756,760,762,770,776,787,793,797,808,809,813,819,838,842,847,850,856,877,884,899,900,909,910,915,916,918,921,927,931,936,940,942,944,954,968,980,985,986,995,997],[1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,10,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,5,1,1,10,1,1,44,4,2,11,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,2,12,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,4,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,5,8,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,28,2,1,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[0,82,2,1,0,1,0,1,1,2,1,0,1,0,0,3,2,8,2,11,0]][1,21,[],[0,0.6949152542372882,0.01694915254237288,0.00847457627118644,0,0.00847457627118644,0,0.00847457627118644,0.00847457627118644,0.01694915254237288,0.00847457627118644,0,0.00847457627118644,0,0,0.025423728813559324,0.01694915254237288,0.06779661016949153,0.01694915254237288,0.09322033898305085,0]]1
From: klrklr@iastate.edu (Kevin L Rens) Subject: Re:Christian Reformed Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Lines: 7 Does anyone belong to or know any facts about the Christian Reformed Church? [It's one of two major heirs to the Dutch Reformed tradition in the U.S. The other is the Reformed Church in America. The CRC is more or less a spinoff from the RCA. It was unclear to me from my reference exactly the differences between them are. --clh] soc.religion.christian1["from:","klrklr@iastate.edu","(kevin","l","rens)","subject:","re:christian","reformed","organization:","iowa","state","university,","ames,","ia","lines:","7","","does","anyone","belong","to","or","know","any","facts","about","the","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","christian","reformed","church?","","[it's","one","of","two","major","heirs","to","the","dutch","reformed","tradition","in","the","u.s.","the","other","is","the","reformed","church","in","america.","","the","crc","is","more","or","less","a","spinoff","from","the","rca.","","it","was","unclear","to","me","from","my","reference","exactly","the","differences","between","them","are.","","--clh]"][0,1000,[3,6,25,37,42,44,49,85,91,170,187,195,209,234,247,278,281,288,306,326,343,344,349,372,388,408,420,424,427,428,445,449,466,471,475,481,495,514,629,667,674,679,698,709,710,716,751,777,779,785,811,833,840,885,888,909,916,921,924,993],[1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,19,3,1,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA) Subject: RE: ESPN UP YOURS ......... Nntp-Posting-Host: chopin.udel.edu Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 66 In article <1993Apr20.214505.6925@wkuvx1.bitnet> kozloce@wkuvx1.bitnet writes: >Jesus Christ!!! > >The score is now 6-0. The Pens are beating the shit out of the Devils who >gave up in the middle of the 2nd period. ESPN does something smart. The >announcer states "well folks this game is getting out of hand. Lets go to >the Islander/Capitals game." I celebrate as I was actually making progress in >my CS homework because I was so bored by the scheduled game. I tear down and >throw on my jersey, Hunter scores I go ape shit 'cause this is the first >caps game I've been able to watch all season. And what does ESPN do? they >go back to the blowout that NJ hasn't a chance in hell of winning! > The period ends and the sportscaster (CAPITOLS JUST TIED IT UP!! YES!! >oops excuse me =) goes into his penguin worship mode (Dont 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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade) Subject: Re: Saturn Extended Warranty Keywords: warranty Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Lines: 36 In article <1r7n42INNie1@shelley.u.washington.edu> gaia@carson.u.washington.edu (I/We are Gaia) writes: >In article <1r6bqgINN4ei@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> vivek@crhc.uiuc.edu (Vivek Chickermane) writes: >>ADVICE on SATURN EXTENDED WARRANTY >>----------------------------------- >> >> I placed an order for a Saturn SL2 and it is expected next week. The >>Saturn retailer gave me some pamphlets about the extended warranty plan >>and I have been thinking about it. Being a first time new car buyer, I am >>seeking advice from veterans esp. those who have bought Saturns lately. >>FYI, I have listed some of the features of the Saturn extended warranty plan. >>The car comes with a 3 years/36,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. >> >>Plan I >>------- >>Extended Powertrain Coverage >> >>Covers the cost of repairs to >> ...rec.autos6["from:","rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu","(robert","j.","wade)","subject:","re:","saturn","extended","warranty","keywords:","warranty","organization:","purdue","university","engineering","computer","network","lines:","36","","in","article","<1r7n42innie1@shelley.u.washington.edu>","gaia@carson.u.washington.edu","(i/we","are","gaia)","writes:",">in","article","<1r6bqginn4ei@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>","vivek@crhc.uiuc.edu","(vivek","chickermane)","writes:",">>advice","on","saturn","extended","warranty",">>-----------------------------------",">>",">>","","i","placed","an","order","for","a","saturn","sl2","and","it","is","expected","next","week.","the",">>saturn","retailer","gave","me","some","pamphlets","about","the","extended","warranty","plan",">>and","i","have","been","thinking","about","it.","being","a","first","time","new","car","buyer,","i","am",">>seeking","advice","from","veterans","esp.","those","who","have","bought","saturns","lately.",">>fyi,","i","have","listed","some","of","the","features","of","the","saturn","extended","warranty","plan.",">>the","car","comes","with","a","3","years/36,000","mile","bumper-to-bumper","warranty.",">>",">>plan","i",">>-------",">>extended","powertrain","coverage",">>",">>covers","the","cost","of","repairs","to",">>","","*","engine",">>","","*","transaxle",">>","","*","front","wheel","drive",">>*","24","hour","roadside","assistance","program",">>",">>coverage","term","(years/miles)",">>",">>deductible","","","","","5/60,000","","","","","6/75,000","","","","","6/100,000",">>----------","","","","","--------","","","","","--------","","","","","---------",">>$50","","","","","","","","","","","","$375","","","","","","","","","","$550","","","","","","","","","$725",">>","","i","say","extended","warranties","are","a","ripoff,","high-profit","item","for","dealers.","but","what","i","really","want","to","point","out","here","is","that","you","are","not","buying","5/60k,","6/75k,","6/100k.","","you","get","3yr/36k","*free*.","","so","what","you","are","buying","is","2/24k,","3/39k,","3/64k.","","keep","that","in","mind","when","you","look","at","the","cost","vs.","coverage.","another","point","is","that","many","car","companies","routinely","fix","car","problems","that","are","out","of","warranty...why?","","design/manufacturing","defects","that","the","company","owns","up","to,","keeping","customer","happy,","etc."][0,1000,[18,25,29,34,36,44,51,52,62,74,76,82,83,87,89,93,96,103,104,123,128,135,138,143,151,152,154,157,167,170,171,172,173,183,184,188,204,207,217,229,243,259,264,273,274,279,281,299,303,310,325,329,333,334,343,365,368,372,374,375,382,385,388,391,400,409,412,413,418,425,428,438,445,461,463,470,471,475,476,477,480,489,490,494,495,498,514,517,526,527,529,530,535,539,545,550,572,574,594,600,603,628,629,630,641,644,650,654,656,666,667,677,694,700,706,709,710,712,718,724,735,738,743,751,752,755,756,760,761,775,777,779,784,792,793,799,801,803,808,821,830,837,852,853,869,870,899,903,914,916,921,927,934,936,939,954,959,966,995,998],[1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,5,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,3,1,1,1,7,1,1,4,1,1,66,1,1,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,4,1,2,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,10,5,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) Subject: Re: Life on Mars. Organization: University of Rochester Lines: 27 In article <lv8fpoINNqo1@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> jmck@norge.Eng.Sun.COM (John McKernan) writes: > Some new information has been discovered recently. Microscopic fossils > have been found in VERY old rocks. The theory is that this life is so > old that it must have been destroyed during the periodic intense > meteorite bombardments that were a feature of the early solar system. > Under this theory life originated on Earth multiple times (between > multiple meteorite bombardments), and therefore the conditions for > the creation of life cannot be that unlikely. This was all badly reported in the news. There is no evidence that signs of life found in old rock predate putative planet-sterilizing events. Rather, the argument was that if life arose shortly the last sterilizing event, then it must be easily formed. The *inference* was that life originated before and was des...sci.space7["from:","dietz@cs.rochester.edu","(paul","dietz)","subject:","re:","life","on","mars.","organization:","university","of","rochester","lines:","27","","in","article","<lv8fpoinnqo1@exodus.eng.sun.com>","jmck@norge.eng.sun.com","(john","mckernan)","writes:","",">","some","new","information","has","been","discovered","recently.","microscopic","fossils",">","have","been","found","in","very","old","rocks.","the","theory","is","that","this","life","is","so",">","old","that","it","must","have","been","destroyed","during","the","periodic","intense","",">","meteorite","bombardments","that","were","a","feature","of","the","early","solar","system.",">","under","this","theory","life","originated","on","earth","multiple","times","(between",">","multiple","meteorite","bombardments),","and","therefore","the","conditions","for",">","the","creation","of","life","cannot","be","that","unlikely.","","","this","was","all","badly","reported","in","the","news.","","there","is","no","evidence","that","signs","of","life","found","in","old","rock","predate","putative","planet-sterilizing","events.","","rather,","the","argument","was","that","if","life","arose","shortly","the","last","sterilizing","event,","then","it","must","be","easily","formed.","","the","*inference*","was","that","life","originated","before","and","was","destroyed,","but","there","was","no","evidence","of","that.","","however,","even","this","argument","is","flawed.","","it","could","well","be","that","origin","of","life","requires","specific","conditions","(say,","a","certain","composition","of","the","atmosphere)","that","do","not","last","for","long.","","so,","perhaps","life","formed","early","only","because","it","would","have","had","no","other","chance","to","do","so,","not","because","it","was","likely","that","life","would","originate","under","those","conditions.","","","paul","f.","dietz","","dietz@cs.rochester.edu"][0,1000,[16,18,19,23,25,36,39,54,58,59,65,82,83,100,116,134,140,145,150,157,159,163,170,178,179,204,213,220,224,234,239,243,255,269,277,281,299,304,313,333,343,346,348,356,362,368,369,372,373,381,388,400,406,412,421,428,443,445,446,453,469,470,477,478,495,497,514,519,524,534,535,574,580,581,583,592,600,626,652,653,656,667,668,672,674,690,694,699,708,710,717,735,736,744,751,754,760,766,767,768,783,804,808,831,832,868,870,873,899,906,912,920,921,930,931,938,944,955,957,962,968,978,989,995,996,997,998],[1,2,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,7,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,2,1,1,4,3,1,1,2,7,3,3,1,1,1,2,16,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,10,1,5,2,2,1,2,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu Subject: BATF & FBI Do Right Thing in Waco Lines: 44 Everyone is complaining about the debacle in Waco. It is hard to understand all this angst. What happend there is nothing less than what we wanted to happen. Why all the sour grapes ? BATF was looking for a propaganda event to counteract their impending budget cuts ... the attendance of the press at the initial big commando raid is proof. It would have been ever so easier to grab Koresh and his central followers as they shopped in Waco. Alas, no propaganda value there. The FBI screwed-up big time, all the time. They should have never allowed the situation to drag out like that. A quick second assault, before the BDs could decide on a strategy, would have been the better plan. The BDs themselves were the biggest screw-ups though. They imagined that US law and US law-enforcement had no jurisdiction within their little 'country'. WRONG ! They had no right whatsoever to fire on the BATF, and if they 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From: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) Subject: Re: Please tell me they're not permenant scratches! Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Lines: 23 Reply-To: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu In a previous article, mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) says: >Catherine Barbara Saum <cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > >>Is there a way to wax out a dull finish (minor scrathes)? While >>"passngering" on my fiance's Bandit, my hip-pack rubbed against the tail >>and left a nasty dull finish and teeny scratches. Is there a way to get >>rid of these? Buff them out? Wax them out? >>help! Okay, here's what to do. Get a drill and a sanding disk. Use, say a 100 disk and go at it at a very low rpm. If you don't have a drill, try coarse steel wool and brake fluid. Dot 4 has an uncanny knack for removing _any_ paint imperfections. Oh, I'm not responsible for misuse or miapplication of either of these techniques. -- DoD #650<----------------------...rec.motorcycles2["from:","ak296@yfn.ysu.edu","(john","r.","daker)","subject:","re:","please","tell","me","they're","not","permenant","scratches!","organization:","st.","elizabeth","hospital,","youngstown,","oh","lines:","23","reply-to:","ak296@yfn.ysu.edu","(john","r.","daker)","nntp-posting-host:","yfn.ysu.edu","","","in","a","previous","article,","mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk","(mike","sixsmith)","says:","",">catherine","barbara","saum","<cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu>","writes:",">",">>is","there","a","way","to","wax","out","a","dull","finish","(minor","scrathes)?","","while",">>\"passngering\"","on","my","fiance's","bandit,","my","hip-pack","rubbed","against","the","tail",">>and","left","a","nasty","dull","finish","and","teeny","scratches.","is","there","a","way","to","get",">>rid","of","these?","","buff","them","out?","","wax","them","out?",">>help!","","okay,","here's","what","to","do.","","","get","a","drill","and","a","sanding","disk.","use,","say","a","","100","disk","and","go","at","it","at","a","very","low","rpm.","","if","you","don't","have","a","drill,","try","coarse","steel","wool","and","brake","fluid.","","dot","4","has","an","uncanny","knack","for","removing","_any_","paint","imperfections.","","oh,","i'm","not","responsible","for","misuse","or","miapplication","of","either","of","these","techniques.","--","","dod","#650<----------------------------------------------------------->darkman","","","","the","significant","problems","we","face","cannot","be","solved","at","the","same","level","of","","","","","","","thinking","we","were","at","when","we","created","them.","","","-","albert","einstein","","","","","","","","","","___________________the","eternal","champion_________________"][0,1000,[1,18,26,34,36,62,75,76,77,79,82,83,122,131,155,156,159,170,173,179,187,207,218,221,235,236,242,244,255,261,262,276,278,280,281,287,288,299,303,305,313,316,326,333,335,342,343,344,358,372,384,388,415,421,425,426,428,432,445,446,454,461,466,471,494,495,499,514,526,527,533,541,546,568,569,571,572,580,599,618,629,635,654,656,662,667,690,695,707,709,710,723,724,725,737,742,751,752,755,756,771,775,789,799,808,831,841,850,851,852,861,863,870,873,875,877,916,922,924,930,931,936,941,944,948,949,959,962,966,968,977,982,993,994,995],[1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,11,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,4,1,1,34,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: nabil@cae.wisc.edu (Nabil Ayoub) Subject: Re: Monophysites and Mike Walker Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering Lines: 83 In article <May.10.05.08.01.1993.3602@athos.rutgers.edu> db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes: >Nabil Ayoub writes: > >>As a final note, the Oriental Orthodox and Eastren Orthodox did sign a >>common statement of Christology, in which the heresey of >Monophysitism >>was condemned. So the Coptic Orthodox Church does not believe in >>Monophysitism. > >Sorry! > >What does the Coptic Church believe about the will and energy of Christ? > Were there one or were there two (i.e. Human and Divine) wills and >energies in Him. > >Also, what is the objection ot the Copts with the Pope of Rome (i.e. why >is there a Coptic Catholic Church)? Do you reject the supreme >jurisdiction of the 263rd sucessor of St. Peter (who blessed St. John >Mark, Bishop of Alexandria was translator for) and his predecessors? Or >his infallibility? 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From: menchett@dws012.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) Subject: A graphic design newsgroup??? Organization: University of Nevada, Reno Department of Computer Science Lines: 3 Which newsgroup discusses graphic design on PCs and macs? Y'know like with Corel Draw?? comp.graphics13["from:","menchett@dws012.unr.edu","(peter","j","menchetti)","subject:","a","graphic","design","newsgroup???","organization:","university","of","nevada,","reno","","department","of","computer","science","lines:","3","","which","newsgroup","discusses","graphic","design","on","pcs","and","macs?","","y'know","like","with","corel","draw??"][0,1000,[10,82,149,151,170,189,199,229,294,319,328,330,332,333,343,372,389,403,412,418,428,436,514,515,583,597,650,667,730,735,751,903,987],[1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: duncan@€€ (Nicholas Duncan) Subject: Re: Don Cherry - help me out, here Nntp-Posting-Host: burrito Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd Lines: 49 In article <1993Apr21.144033.15925@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: |> In article <MfpIRbO00WBLI1ispC@andrew.cmu.edu> "William K. Willis" <ww1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: |> > |> > As a person who has rarely even SEEN Don Cherry and doesn't know |> >anything about him, I don't know whether it is just this area |> >(Pittsburgh) of the USA that is "deprived" of his broadcasts or whether |> >he's a Canadian thing altogether. Seriously, what is he all about? I |> >know he was a coach at one time, and from the volume of posts about him, |> >SOMEONE surely is getting a steady diet of him somehow, but my question |> >is, what is the deal with him? Secondly, are the comments of his that I |> >read about on the net merely flame bait, or do people actually take him |> >seriously? 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From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) Subject: Re: I NEED YOUR ADVICE! (I'm a new rider) Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Lines: 23 In article <1993Apr21.233803.18471@bsu-ucs> 00cjmelching@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes: >The tachometer has a sticker right on it that says "for the first 500 >miles DO NOT go over 4,000 rpm's, and for the next 500 miles, don't go >over 6,000. (referred to as the break-in period if you didn't know.) > >Well, if I were to do that, I would never be going over 35 mph even in >6th gear!!! So my question is, will it hurt my new cycle to take it up >in the 6-7000 rpm range so that I can at least go the speed limit???? But you already can go at the speed limit at 4000 rpm. All you need to do is to find a road with a 35 mph speed limit. This isn't quite as silly as it sounds. If you take a nice day trip over back roads (*not* highways full of people trying seriously to get from here to there) then you might be able to hold 35 mph comfortab...rec.motorcycles2["from:","karr@cs.cornell.edu","(david","karr)","subject:","re:","i","need","your","advice!","(i'm","a","new","rider)","organization:","cornell","univ.","cs","dept,","ithaca","ny","14853","lines:","23","","in","article","<1993apr21.233803.18471@bsu-ucs>","00cjmelching@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu","writes:",">the","tachometer","has","a","sticker","right","on","it","that","says","\"for","the","first","500","",">miles","do","not","go","over","4,000","rpm's,","and","for","the","next","500","miles,","don't","go",">over","6,000.","","(referred","to","as","the","break-in","period","if","you","didn't","know.)",">",">well,","if","i","were","to","do","that,","i","would","never","be","going","over","35","mph","even","in",">6th","gear!!!","","so","my","question","is,","will","it","hurt","my","new","cycle","to","take","it","up","",">in","the","6-7000","rpm","range","so","that","i","can","at","least","go","the","speed","limit????","","but","you","already","can","go","at","the","speed","limit","at","4000","rpm.","","all","you","need","to","do","is","to","find","a","road","with","a","35","mph","speed","limit.","","this","isn't","quite","as","silly","as","it","sounds.","","if","you","take","a","nice","day","trip","over","back","roads","(*not*","highways","full","of","people","trying","seriously","to","get","from","here","to","there)","then","you","might","be","able","to","hold","35","mph","comfortably.","you","could","easily","do","500","miles","over","three","different","weekends.","","you","might","even","get","to","enjoy","some","of","the","scenery.","","yes,","i","know","this","is","probably","not","why","you","bought","a","250","called","\"ninja.\"","","--","david","karr","(karr@cs.cornell.edu)","--","'80","bmw","r65","","","dod","#0969","","","also","bmwmoa,","nra,","aclu,","et","al."][0,1000,[15,18,25,35,36,43,57,72,77,82,83,89,109,123,126,128,130,135,136,156,163,170,173,179,183,189,190,195,198,213,216,220,233,245,253,255,259,262,263,273,278,281,287,297,301,303,315,329,333,335,343,347,352,368,370,372,373,378,381,388,389,397,398,400,406,417,420,425,426,428,430,435,442,445,449,468,470,486,488,492,493,495,496,504,510,514,527,529,534,537,546,559,566,572,574,580,581,599,605,613,617,633,641,650,655,656,661,667,681,688,689,709,710,725,727,730,736,748,751,756,757,760,766,779,782,792,808,811,824,832,833,839,843,845,855,863,874,897,902,903,906,916,920,921,938,947,959,962,968,973,976,985,995,999],[1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,9,2,2,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,4,2,1,16,2,2,1,10,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,7,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) Subject: Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 24 In article <May.13.02.30.39.1993.1545@geneva.rutgers.edu> noye@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >[...] i believe that the one >important thing that those who wrote the old and new testament >passages cited above did NOT know was that there is scientific >evidence to support that homosexuality is at least partly _inherent_ >rather than completely learned. this means that to a certain extent >-- or to a great extent -- homosexuals cannot choose how to feel [...] But one of the most basic concepts of Christian morality is that we all have defective appetites due to original sin. Not just homosexuals, but everybody. Thus we are not entitled to indulge in whatever behavior our bodies want us to. I think we need to keep clear the distinction between homosexual _behavior_ (which is wrong) and homosexual _orientation_ (whic...soc.religion.christian1["from:","mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu","(michael","covington)","subject:","re:","homosexuality","issues","in","christianity","organization:","ai","programs,","university","of","georgia,","athens","lines:","24","","in","article","<may.13.02.30.39.1993.1545@geneva.rutgers.edu>","noye@midway.uchicago.edu","writes:","",">[...]","","i","believe","that","the","one",">important","thing","that","those","who","wrote","the","old","and","new","testament",">passages","cited","above","did","not","know","was","that","there","is","scientific",">evidence","to","support","that","homosexuality","is","at","least","partly","_inherent_",">rather","than","completely","learned.","","this","means","that","to","a","certain","extent",">--","or","to","a","great","extent","--","homosexuals","cannot","choose","how","to","feel","[...]","","but","one","of","the","most","basic","concepts","of","christian","morality","is","that","we","all","have","defective","appetites","due","to","original","sin.","","not","just","homosexuals,","but","everybody.","","thus","we","are","not","entitled","to","indulge","in","whatever","behavior","our","bodies","want","us","to.","","i","think","we","need","to","keep","clear","the","distinction","between","homosexual","_behavior_","(which","is","wrong)","and","homosexual","_orientation_","(which","is","not","a","sin,","merely","a","misfortune).","","[please:","no","email","replies.","","respond","in","this","public","forum.]","--","",":-","","michael","a.","covington,","associate","research","scientist","","","","","","","",":","","","","*****",":-","","artificial","intelligence","programs","","","","","","mcovingt@ai.uga.edu",":","","*********",":-","","the","university","of","georgia","","","","","","","","","","","","","","phone","706","542-0358",":","","","*","","*","","*",":-","","athens,","georgia","30602-7415","u.s.a.","","","","","amateur","radio","n4tmi",":","","**","***","**","","<><"][0,1000,[3,10,18,19,24,25,34,44,47,50,55,59,69,78,79,83,89,113,115,138,163,170,173,175,179,182,187,191,198,207,208,217,222,224,233,234,237,247,251,256,260,261,264,267,281,291,297,299,304,307,310,329,331,333,336,339,343,346,362,372,373,383,388,389,391,394,411,412,428,432,443,445,457,458,470,475,481,483,498,514,532,537,539,542,549,564,594,600,607,610,618,619,623,624,625,632,652,667,672,675,680,684,695,697,703,704,706,710,712,735,743,751,754,756,757,760,770,779,782,808,827,831,834,856,860,881,895,896,903,911,924,926,928,931,950,956,968,969,986,993,995],[1,1,4,2,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,4,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,54,2,1,7,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner) Subject: Re: BMW heated grips Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org Distribution: world Organization: NOT Lines: 23 bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes: ]To those of you who have the BMW heated handgrips: ] Are they comfortable? Do they transmit a lot of ] vibration? How do they compare to the stock grips? ] To foam grips? I don't have the grips, but have looked into getting them. it's my understanding that the grips themselves are the standard european style grips now coming standard on the 93 bikes (K1100RS, K1100LT, etc). it's also my understanding that the heater resides _inside_ the bar itself so if anything I would suspect it would reduce vibration by providing more bar end mass. I don't see why they wouldn't work with the old style foam grips aside from the fact that it might cause the foam to deteriorate or something. hard to belive considering they do fine in the 100+ degree texas summers. 'course, I don't actually have them so you...rec.motorcycles2["from:","joe@rider.cactus.org","(joe","senner)","subject:","re:","bmw","heated","grips","reply-to:","joe@rider.cactus.org","distribution:","world","organization:","not","lines:","23","","bergman@panix.com","(mark","bergman)","writes:","]to","those","of","you","who","have","the","bmw","heated","handgrips:","]","are","they","comfortable?","do","they","transmit","a","lot","of","]","vibration?","how","do","they","compare","to","the","stock","grips?","]","to","foam","grips?","","","i","don't","have","the","grips,","but","have","looked","into","getting","them.","it's","my","","understanding","that","the","grips","themselves","are","the","standard","european","","style","grips","now","coming","standard","on","the","93","bikes","(k1100rs,","k1100lt,","etc).","it's","also","my","understanding","that","the","heater","resides","_inside_","the","bar","","itself","so","if","anything","i","would","suspect","it","would","reduce","vibration","by","","providing","more","bar","end","mass.","","i","don't","see","why","they","wouldn't","work","with","the","old","style","foam","grips","aside","from","the","fact","that","it","might","cause","the","foam","to","deteriorate","or","something.","hard","to","belive","considering","they","do","fine","in","the","100+","degree","texas","summers.","","'course,","i","don't","actually","have","them","so","you","can","save","your","flames.","","--","","joe","senner","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","joe@rider.cactus.org","bmw","mailing","list","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","bmw@rider.cactus.org","austin","area","ride","mailing","list","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","ride@rider.cactus.org"][0,1000,[18,40,47,48,52,53,82,83,89,97,98,99,114,125,132,138,150,163,170,173,187,192,194,209,215,217,223,237,238,254,262,263,284,287,288,289,299,301,305,318,329,341,343,368,371,372,373,381,388,399,410,414,425,426,428,431,437,445,447,459,462,463,464,466,467,488,491,495,502,512,514,515,520,525,527,534,569,599,600,616,622,629,631,649,650,667,672,681,710,724,728,735,751,760,781,790,792,802,808,812,821,833,835,837,856,891,913,915,916,921,922,924,934,957,967,973,977,983,985,995],[1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,4,1,2,2,1,126,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,13,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,2,1,1]][1,21,[],[0,0,5,0,4,0,0,2,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,3,1,0,5,1,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0.20833333333333334,0,0.16666666666666666,0,0,0.08333333333333333,0,0.041666666666666664,0,0.041666666666666664,0.041666666666666664,0,0,0.125,0.041666666666666664,0,0.20833333333333334,0.041666666666666664,0]]2
From: joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm) Subject: Re: Ranger Fans????? Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 16 In article <1993Apr22.101356.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kwolfer@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes: ... > >As far as the Stanley Cup goes I think there's only one team that can test >Pittsburgh and that's Detroit. This would be the most entertaining and hard >fought series. Mario is amazing! > >Kurt That is if Mario makes it. Pat Walker sounds like the type that would bring an AK-47 to a game and take pot shots at Mario. ("stand STILL...dam sunavbich...HMFF") Joseph Stiehm rec.sport.hockey0["from:","joe13+@pitt.edu","(joseph","b","stiehm)","subject:","re:","ranger","fans?????","organization:","university","of","pittsburgh","lines:","16","","in","article","<1993apr22.101356.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>","kwolfer@eagle.wesleyan.edu","writes:","...",">",">as","far","as","the","stanley","cup","goes","i","think","there's","only","one","team","that","can","test",">pittsburgh","and","that's","detroit.","","this","would","be","the","most","entertaining","and","hard",">fought","series.","","mario","is","amazing!",">",">kurt","","that","is","if","mario","makes","it.","","pat","walker","sounds","like","the","type","that","would","bring","an","ak-47","to","a","game","and","take","pot","shots","at","mario.","(\"stand","still...dam","sunavbich...hmff\")","","","joseph","stiehm"][0,1000,[20,26,37,44,78,125,159,163,165,166,170,172,178,179,239,242,248,252,276,281,289,313,329,330,333,334,340,343,349,361,363,372,373,388,412,419,428,445,468,469,470,514,526,536,550,564,572,586,593,600,633,656,667,690,691,702,710,731,751,752,756,760,770,776,784,808,811,833,855,882,894,899,913,943,961,975,995],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug Lines: 18 strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: >> Well, that explains it. The government has no real need to spy on people >>who already love Big Brother; it's the people who are inclined to talk >>back who need to be watched. >Though I think this an overstatement, it does contain a grain of truth. It's >drug dealers, spies, terrorists, and organized crime figures (assuming >enough probable cause to convince a judge) who need to be watched, not >law-abiding citizens. And thus, COINTELPRO, in which horrible people who threatened the republic by disagreeing with the Government were systematically kept track of for years... -- Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com -- Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme. sci.crypt4["from:","pmetzger@snark.shearson.com","(perry","e.","metzger)","subject:","re:","secret","algorithm","[re:","clipper","chip","and","crypto","key-escrow]","organization:","partnership","for","an","america","free","drug","lines:","18","","strnlght@netcom.com","(david","sternlight)","writes:",">>","","well,","that","explains","it.","","the","government","has","no","real","need","to","spy","on","people",">>who","already","love","big","brother;","it's","the","people","who","are","inclined","to","talk",">>back","who","need","to","be","watched.","",">though","i","think","this","an","overstatement,","it","does","contain","a","grain","of","truth.","it's",">drug","dealers,","spies,","terrorists,","and","organized","crime","figures","(assuming",">enough","probable","cause","to","convince","a","judge)","who","need","to","be","watched,","not",">law-abiding","citizens.","","and","thus,","cointelpro,","in","which","horrible","people","who","threatened","the","republic","by","disagreeing","with","the","government","were","systematically","kept","track","of","for","years...","","--","perry","metzger","","pmetzger@shearson.com","--","laissez","faire,","laissez","passer.","le","monde","va","de","lui","meme."][0,1000,[18,24,33,34,36,38,44,53,57,60,63,73,81,82,86,98,108,118,138,141,142,145,170,173,192,195,197,198,208,212,215,217,222,223,226,237,240,244,260,264,281,282,296,301,315,319,329,333,334,343,346,352,372,373,382,388,395,428,437,445,446,486,493,495,514,517,537,542,550,563,564,580,597,598,609,611,613,623,630,649,650,656,663,667,687,691,695,698,702,710,740,751,752,760,772,799,808,813,834,837,854,856,860,866,925,962,970,976,995,997],[1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,7,1,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: yadalle@cs.UAlberta.CA (Yadallee Dave S) Subject: Re: Oilers for sale?? Nntp-Posting-Host: cab113.cs.ualberta.ca Reply-To: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,yadalle@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Lines: 67 golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: >The probability is that the Oilers are not going anywhere. Gerald, look at what happened to the Stars; they are off to Dallas. >Pocklington has chosen this moment to make his "last" stand is >because he is at the moment of maximum advantage...the provincial >government is months away from a provincial election...it is >the moment when he has maximum power to convince Northlands >to give him a better arena deal or a better purchase price... >and it is before the NHL's new collective agreement with >the players which might involve some enhanced revenue-sharing. Gerald, the Alberta election is slated fou 7 June, unless something RE?ALLY goes wrong this time!! 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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful [Restated and amplified] Organization: DSI/USCRPAC Lines: 30 Brad Yearwood posts a long response to the issue of registering a phone-clipper relationship. It doesn't wash. Recall that law enforcement gets a court order to tap a suspect's phone calls. They do what they do now--figure out which lines to tap. They then record the stuff. If it's Clipper, they read the law enforcement block, extract the serial number, and get the keys using the court order. No new difficulties (such as using someone else's phone instrument or phone line) are introduced that wouldn't have existed absent clipper. If the crooks were going to use a pay phone (say), they could have done so without clipper. If the government figures out they're so doing, they listen in, and if it's a clipper conversation they get the serial number and then the keys. If the crooks use an innocent person's clipper phone on the tapped line the...sci.crypt4["from:","strnlght@netcom.com","(david","sternlight)","subject:","re:","clipper","considered","harmful","[restated","and","amplified]","organization:","dsi/uscrpac","lines:","30","","","brad","yearwood","posts","a","long","response","to","the","issue","of","registering","a","phone-clipper","relationship.","","it","doesn't","wash.","","recall","that","law","enforcement","gets","a","court","order","to","tap","a","suspect's","phone","calls.","they","do","what","they","do","now--figure","out","which","lines","to","tap.","they","then","record","the","stuff.","if","it's","clipper,","they","read","the","law","enforcement","block,","extract","the","serial","number,","and","get","the","keys","using","the","court","order.","","no","new","difficulties","(such","as","using","someone","else's","phone","instrument","or","phone","line)","are","introduced","that","wouldn't","have","existed","absent","clipper.","if","the","crooks","were","going","to","use","a","pay","phone","(say),","they","could","have","done","so","without","clipper.","if","the","government","figures","out","they're","so","doing,","they","listen","in,","and","if","it's","a","clipper","conversation","they","get","the","serial","number","and","then","the","keys.","","if","the","crooks","use","an","innocent","person's","clipper","phone","on","the","tapped","line","there's","no","problem.","the","feds","don't","care","whose","phone","instrument","is","used,","just","that","the","conversation","is","by","the","suspect","on","the","tapped","line.","they","get","the","serial","number,","get","the","keys,","and","they","are","in","business.","","no","clipper","chip","to","person","association","is","ever","needed.","","david","--","","david","sternlight","","","","","","","","","great","care","has","been","taken","to","ensure","the","accuracy","of","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","our","information,","errors","and","omissions","excepted."][0,1000,[3,4,19,25,29,42,48,67,81,82,83,92,99,138,140,142,150,156,167,170,173,182,187,198,201,210,213,214,220,223,226,232,249,252,257,260,281,286,299,304,307,310,313,315,322,329,333,341,343,346,367,368,372,381,388,391,411,419,426,428,437,445,448,450,461,477,479,481,488,489,493,495,499,501,507,514,521,526,527,534,535,567,572,580,583,594,597,606,624,650,654,659,660,665,666,667,672,681,688,690,691,695,700,704,707,709,710,713,718,733,748,750,751,752,760,779,795,808,820,826,833,834,853,866,884,899,904,909,911,913,943,959,962,970,977],[1,1,1,1,1,1,9,1,4,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,6,1,3,3,2,2,42,2,6,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,8,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,19,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak) Subject: Re: What part of "No" don't you understand? Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies Lines: 30 Nntp-Posting-Host: jaynes.advtech.uswest.com > = eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >> = Steve Novak writes: >>Because, of course, that possibility existed. Meaning any student who >>really gave a shit could have a moment of silence on his/her own, which >>makes more sense than forcing those who DON'T want to participate to >>have to take part. What other reason is there for an organized "moment >>of silence"? >A "moment of silence" doesn't mean much unless *everyone* >participates. Otherwise it's not silent, now is it? The whole point is, maybe everyone _doesn't want_ to participate. [...] >Blindly opposing everything with a flavor of religion in it is >utterly idiotic. Blindly opposing everything with a flavor of religion in it that is supported by taxpayer money is the only way to keep christianity from becoming the officia...talk.religion.misc19["from:","steven@advtech.uswest.com","(","steve","novak)","subject:","re:","what","part","of","\"no\"","don't","you","understand?","organization:","u","s","west","advanced","technologies","lines:","30","nntp-posting-host:","jaynes.advtech.uswest.com","",">","=","eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu","writes:",">>","=","steve","novak","writes:","",">>because,","of","course,","that","possibility","existed.","","meaning","any","student","who",">>really","gave","a","shit","could","have","a","moment","of","silence","on","his/her","own,","which",">>makes","more","sense","than","forcing","those","who","don't","want","to","participate","to",">>have","to","take","part.","","what","other","reason","is","there","for","an","organized","\"moment",">>of","silence\"?","",">a","\"moment","of","silence\"","doesn't","mean","much","unless","*everyone*",">participates.","","otherwise","it's","not","silent,","now","is","it?","","the","whole","point","is,","maybe","everyone","_doesn't","want_","to","participate.","","[...]",">blindly","opposing","everything","with","a","flavor","of","religion","in","it","is",">utterly","idiotic.","","blindly","opposing","everything","with","a","flavor","of","religion","in","it","that","is","supported","by","taxpayer","money","is","the","only","way","to","keep","christianity","from","becoming","the","official","u.s.","religion.","","not","noticing","that","danger","is","utterly","idiotic.","","","--","","+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+","|","steve","novak","|","","","","|\"ban","the","bomb!\"","","\"ban","the","pope!!\"|","","+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+","steven@advtech.uswest.com"][0,1000,[5,13,18,24,33,36,47,79,80,82,85,91,96,98,104,114,133,135,159,170,173,178,179,192,197,201,213,217,223,225,232,235,242,245,261,268,281,293,295,299,304,323,328,341,343,372,382,388,390,396,399,419,423,425,426,428,433,437,443,445,449,454,460,462,475,485,486,488,495,500,514,516,524,526,543,579,593,594,597,600,612,616,629,630,650,653,667,674,694,710,712,716,719,721,740,751,752,755,760,774,780,793,796,808,823,831,832,855,875,887,893,895,899,903,907,909,921,929,935,943,946,953,969,995,998,999],[1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,6,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,6,18,2,5,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: ifarqhar@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Ian Farquhar) Subject: Re: ATARI 2600 Processors Organization: Macquarie University, Sydney Australia Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au In article <1r847f$kp7@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> john@gu.uwa.edu.au (John West) writes: >ifarqhar@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Ian Farquhar) writes: >>Wrong, it has a 6507. >For those who would like to know, the 6507 was a 6502 without IRQ or NMI, >and with only 13 address lines (giving 8K memory space). Yes, but still not a 6502 for those differences. Same instruction set, of course. >>It had one custom chip (not an ASIC in the sense that word is now understood): >>the TIA (sometimes known as the 6526, although most other manufacturers list >>that as the CIA complex interface adapter.) TIA stands for Television >>Interface Adapter, and it handles sound, paddles and the minimal video hardware >>the 2600 possessed. >Didn't know about it being called the 6526 - thats the CIA found in the >Commodore 64 (I 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From: newton@convex.com (Vicki Newton) Subject: seeking recommendations for new car purchase Nntp-Posting-Host: concave.convex.com Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of CONVEX. Lines: 18 folks, i am going to be purchasing a new vehicle in the next few months. i am trying to hold out until the fall since i have heard that i can be in a better negotiating position to purchase a '93 right when the '94s are coming out. i need something that can comfortably carry 2 adults, 2 kids in car seats, and 2 60-pound dogs. i can probably afford something in the 14k-16k range. i am interested in the SUV's but am not sure there are any that are decent which i can afford. i think the ford explorer got good reviews from consumer reports but is above my $$$ range. the isuzu rodeo is probably ...rec.autos6["from:","newton@convex.com","(vicki","newton)","subject:","seeking","recommendations","for","new","car","purchase","nntp-posting-host:","concave.convex.com","organization:","engineering,","convex","computer","corp.,","richardson,","tx.,","usa","x-disclaimer:","this","message","was","written","by","a","user","at","convex","computer","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","corp.","the","opinions","expressed","are","those","of","the","user","and","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","not","necessarily","those","of","convex.","lines:","18","","folks,","","i","am","going","to","be","purchasing","a","new","vehicle","in","the","next","few","months.","","i","am","trying","to","hold","out","until","the","fall","since","i","have","heard","that","i","can","be","in","a","better","negotiating","position","to","purchase","a","'93","right","when","the","'94s","are","coming","out.","","i","need","something","that","can","comfortably","carry","2","adults,","2","kids","in","car","seats,","and","2","60-pound","dogs.","","i","can","probably","afford","something","in","the","14k-16k","range.","","i","am","interested","in","the","suv's","but","am","not","sure","there","are","any","that","are","decent","which","i","can","afford.","i","think","the","ford","explorer","got","good","reviews","from","consumer","reports","but","is","above","my","$$$","range.","","the","isuzu","rodeo","is","probably","in","my","price","range","but","i","think","consumer","reports","gave","it","a","big","thumbs","down.","","can","anyone","offer","any","suggestions?","","i","am","hoping","for","something","a","little","more","hip","than","the","traditional","wagon,","and","the","suvs","look","like","fun","(we","do","a","lot","of","camping","too).","","veek"][0,1000,[2,7,18,25,28,36,44,53,76,79,80,83,91,92,116,125,133,138,139,150,151,158,161,168,170,173,177,178,209,213,223,229,234,256,261,267,273,281,287,296,297,299,305,307,308,318,329,330,333,339,343,350,353,357,358,363,372,373,388,389,391,400,407,424,428,445,459,475,493,495,504,514,515,534,537,542,553,556,564,565,572,574,585,589,597,598,600,610,623,629,635,654,656,664,667,676,695,706,710,712,717,726,729,732,735,745,751,754,756,760,762,774,777,778,782,821,822,831,833,845,857,861,882,891,898,916,921,934,939,941,981,984,989,998],[1,1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,1,2,1,4,1,1,2,1,2,1,7,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,11,1,3,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,40,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,2,1,11,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) Subject: WC 93: Results, April 25 Nntp-Posting-Host: uipc104.ericsson.se Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 139 1993 World Championships in Germany: ==================================== Group A results: SWEDEN - SWITZERLAND 4-6 (0-3,3-1,1-2) 1st: SWI 0-1 Manuele Celio 1 3:21 SWI 0-2 Patrick Howald 1 11:37 SWI 0-3 Patrick Howald 2 (Sven Leuenberger) 16:00 2nd: SWE 1-3 Peter Andersson 1 (Michael Nylander) 2:47 (pp) SWI 1-4 Roman Waeger 1 (Martin Rauch,Sven Leuenberger) 8:53 (pp) SWE 2-4 Jonas Bergqvist 3 (Markus Naslund) 9:08 SWE 3-4 Jan Larsson 1 (Patrik Juhlin) 18:50 3rd: SWE 4-4 Mikael Renberg 2 (Thomas Rundqvist,Peter Andersson) 7:49 SWI 4-5 Roman Waeger 2 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From: pbp1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter B Palij) Subject: W4W tables and HPLJ II printer Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 After setting up a very large (>4 pages) table in Word for Windows I asked word to print it to my HP laserjet II -- worked fine at first. After much editing of the table contents (but not structure) output requests now kick the LJ into manual feed mode for the document containing the table. Other documents without tables print correctly. Where should I look and what should I change to get the document with the long table to use the paper drawer rather than kick into manual feed mode? [I believe I've tried all the obvious printer manager changes as well as replacing the hppcl.[lp]00 files with archived versions.] Thanks for any and all help. Peter -- Peter Palij Internet: pbp1@columbia.edu Columbia University, Graduate School of Business 804 Uris Hall New York NY 10027...comp.os.ms-windows.misc9["from:","pbp1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu","(peter","b","palij)","subject:","w4w","tables","and","hplj","ii","printer","nntp-posting-host:","cunixb.cc.columbia.edu","organization:","columbia","university","lines:","20","","","after","setting","up","a","very","large","(>4","pages)","table","in","word","for","windows","i","asked","word","to","print","it","to","my","hp","laserjet","ii","--","worked","fine","at","first.","after","much","editing","of","the","table","contents","(but","not","structure)","output","requests","now","kick","the","lj","into","manual","feed","mode","for","the","document","containing","the","table.","","other","documents","without","tables","print","correctly.","","where","should","i","look","and","what","should","i","change","to","get","the","document","with","the","long","table","to","use","the","paper","drawer","rather","than","kick","into","manual","feed","mode?","[i","believe","i've","tried","all","the","obvious","printer","manager","changes","as","well","as","replacing","the","hppcl.[lp]00","files","with","archived","versions.]","","thanks","for","any","and","all","help.","","peter","--","peter","palij","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","internet:","pbp1@columbia.edu","columbia","university,","graduate","school","of","business","804","uris","hall","new","york","","ny","","10027"][0,1000,[18,25,36,62,71,77,79,81,83,91,96,98,110,122,128,130,139,141,157,158,170,173,190,220,230,231,247,261,290,310,319,329,332,333,335,343,344,352,360,361,363,368,372,374,388,405,412,417,418,421,428,431,437,445,452,460,489,495,514,519,524,526,546,551,572,590,593,598,650,656,659,665,667,674,710,719,721,723,728,746,748,751,756,775,782,798,799,801,810,820,837,844,852,865,871,874,876,884,885,886,891,904,909,910,916,917,939,942,943,944,948,959,968,986],[1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,46,1,5,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,9,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1]][1,21,[],[0,0,2,2,0,0,0,0,31,4,0,4,2,5,0,0,0,1,0,0,0]][1,21,[],[0,0,0.0392156862745098,0.0392156862745098,0,0,0,0,0.6078431372549019,0.0784313725490196,0,0.0784313725490196,0.0392156862745098,0.09803921568627451,0,0,0,0.0196078431372549,0,0,0]]8
From: roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us Subject: Sumatripton (spelling?) Keywords: migraine Reply-To: roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us Lines: 19 I recently heard of some testing of a new migraine drug called sumatripton (I have no idea of the actual spelling) that supposedly utilizes a chemical that trips neuro-transmitters. My mother has regular migraines and nothing seems to help - does anyone know anything about this new drug? Is it in a testing phaze or anywhere near approval? Does it seem to be working? Any information would help. Please feel free to e-mail rather than take up bandwidth if you prefer. Thanks in advance, -Rox -- roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us "Virtue is a relative term." sci.med5["from:","roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us","subject:","sumatripton","(spelling?)","keywords:","migraine","reply-to:","roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us","lines:","19","","","i","recently","heard","of","some","testing","of","a","new","migraine","drug","called","sumatripton","(i","have","no","idea","of","the","actual","spelling)","that","supposedly","utilizes","a","chemical","that","trips","neuro-transmitters.","","my","mother","has","regular","migraines","and","nothing","seems","to","help","-","does","anyone","know","anything","about","this","new","drug?","","is","it","in","a","testing","phaze","or","anywhere","near","approval?","","does","it","seem","to","be","working?","","any","information","would","help.","","please","feel","free","to","e-mail","rather","than","take","up","bandwidth","if","you","prefer.","","thanks","in","advance,","","-rox","--","","roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us","","","\"virtue","is","a","relative","term.\""][0,1000,[1,25,34,62,73,84,91,104,114,115,128,138,157,163,170,173,187,209,210,230,245,252,261,281,299,300,329,333,343,346,347,357,372,373,388,398,400,413,425,428,437,445,451,470,474,489,495,497,499,511,514,580,588,593,630,656,680,690,698,710,738,741,743,751,760,777,779,797,840,841,855,860,885,900,909,916,958,974,977,978,987],[1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,12,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro) Subject: Borderline! Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 In article <1993Apr21.222206.502069@sue.cc.uregina.ca> franks@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Derek Franks) writes: >I was wondering if anyone on the net knows where/when the 1993 Wing Ding >is? If so, would you please e-mail/post the info? > >I've never been to one and have some free time this summer and >am considering attending. Anyone else? > vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv VVVVVVVVVV >This is my first post, so no DoD#. > >'82 Aspencade (2nd one) Getting close there! o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> Rob Castro | email - rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu | Live for today 1983 KZ550LTD | phone - (212) 854-7617 | For today you live! DoD# NYC-1 | New York, New York, USA | R...rec.motorcycles2["from:","rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu","(robert","d","castro)","subject:","borderline!","nntp-posting-host:","cunixf.cc.columbia.edu","reply-to:","rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu","(robert","d","castro)","organization:","columbia","university","lines:","18","","in","article","<1993apr21.222206.502069@sue.cc.uregina.ca>","franks@hercules.cs.uregina.ca","(derek","franks)","writes:",">i","was","wondering","if","anyone","on","the","net","knows","where/when","the","1993","wing","ding",">is?","","if","so,","would","you","please","e-mail/post","the","info?",">",">i've","never","been","to","one","and","have","some","free","time","this","summer","and",">am","considering","attending.","","anyone","else?",">","","vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv","","vvvvvvvvvv",">this","is","my","first","post,","so","no","dod#.",">","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","","",">'82","aspencade","(2nd","one)","","getting","close","there!","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","o&o>","","","","","rob","castro","","","","","|","email","-","rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu","|","live","for","today","","","","","1983","kz550ltd","","|","phone","-","(212)","854-7617","","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","for","today","you","live!","","","","","dod#","nyc-1","","","","","|","new","york,","new","york,","usa","","","","","","","","","","","","","|","","","","","","","","rc","(tm)"][0,1000,[21,25,36,43,44,53,73,79,82,83,87,94,116,126,132,157,159,162,163,170,179,183,184,194,209,234,246,281,299,301,333,346,348,367,368,372,373,388,400,410,412,425,428,433,442,444,445,450,462,468,470,471,476,481,493,499,505,514,518,535,562,587,609,613,614,624,652,653,667,694,699,706,710,722,723,728,733,739,741,751,782,802,841,870,887,895,915,916,938,952,977,995],[1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,13,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,95,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[136,92,76,118,58,113,106,69,234,88,186,250,249,230,232,43,35,17,27,32,0]][1,21,[],[0.056879966541196154,0.03847762442492681,0.03178586365537432,0.0493517356754496,0.02425763278962777,0.04726056043496445,0.044332915098285235,0.028858218318695106,0.09786700125470514,0.03680468423253869,0.07779171894604768,0.10455876202425764,0.10414052697616061,0.09619406106231702,0.09703053115851108,0.017984107068172314,0.014638226683396068,0.007109995817649519,0.011292346298619825,0.013383521539104977,0]]11
From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical) Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful [Restated and amplified] Nntp-Posting-Host: damon.ccs.northeastern.edu Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U Distribution: inet Lines: 43 In article <1rcboi$j4a@access.digex.net> steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) writes: [...] > FEDS: We need the keys to Joe Blow's phone. > > ESCROW AGENT: Joe Blow? You have a warrant to tap his line? > > FEDS: Well, no, but we have a warrant to tap Carlos "Slime-Devil" Gonzales' > line, and our tap shows that Mr. Gonzales is using Mr. Blow's phone. > > ESCROW AGENT: Well, OK.... No no no no no no no. It will go like this: FEDS: We need the key to phone 334RE67D99. ESCROW: You have a warrant to tap the line phone 334RE67D99 is on? FEDS: Yes. ESCROW: Fine, here is our key. What happens is, Feds tap a line; find Clipper is being used; extract serial number; get key; decipher convo. The serial number is never registered to a specific own...sci.crypt4["from:","rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu","(free","radical)","subject:","re:","clipper","considered","harmful","[restated","and","amplified]","nntp-posting-host:","damon.ccs.northeastern.edu","organization:","college","of","cs,","northeastern","u","distribution:","inet","lines:","43","","in","article","<1rcboi$j4a@access.digex.net>","steve-b@access.digex.com","(steve","brinich)","writes:","","[...]",">","","feds:","we","need","the","keys","to","joe","blow's","phone.",">",">","","escrow","agent:","joe","blow?","","you","have","a","warrant","to","tap","his","line?",">",">","","feds:","well,","no,","but","we","have","a","warrant","to","tap","carlos","\"slime-devil\"","gonzales'",">","","","","","line,","and","our","tap","shows","that","mr.","gonzales","is","using","mr.","blow's","phone.",">",">","","escrow","agent:","well,","ok....","","no","no","no","no","no","no","no.","","it","will","go","like","this:","","feds:","we","need","the","key","to","phone","334re67d99.","","escrow:","you","have","a","warrant","to","tap","the","line","phone","334re67d99","is","on?","","feds:","yes.","","escrow:","fine,","here","is","our","key.","","what","happens","is,","feds","tap","a","line;","find","clipper","is","being","used;","extract","serial","number;","get","key;","decipher","convo.","","the","serial","number","is","never","registered","to","a","specific","owner,","it","is","_sent_","as","part","of","the","conversation.","","if","i","give","you","my","clipper","phone,","you","do","not","need","to","re-register","it","(mainly","because","it","was","never","'registered'","to","me","in","the","first","place).","","there","are","a","lot","of","things","that","bother","me","about","clipper,","but","this","is","not","one","of","them.","","let's","get","our","facts","straight","and","not","waste","effort","demolishing","straw","men.","","","ra","","rogue@cs.neu.edu","(rogue","agent/sod!)","-----------------------------------","the","nsa","is","now","funding","research","not","only","in","cryptography,","but","in","all","areas","of","advanced","mathematics.","if","you'd","like","a","circular","describing","these","new","research","opportunities,","just","pick","up","your","phone,","call","your","mother,","and","ask","for","one."][0,1000,[10,11,18,19,25,36,44,45,59,66,67,77,79,81,83,89,98,101,112,114,117,123,126,128,130,135,138,146,158,170,179,180,182,183,198,212,234,241,243,257,263,279,281,287,288,295,296,299,307,329,330,333,343,346,355,372,373,374,380,387,388,393,402,411,414,420,421,425,428,429,432,436,441,445,448,456,461,466,470,471,475,489,494,495,499,500,510,514,526,527,534,537,543,546,556,559,569,570,572,579,583,601,604,606,616,621,624,641,657,659,664,666,667,671,690,701,704,710,714,722,732,735,740,751,760,762,768,777,779,781,783,808,813,818,824,825,826,831,840,853,862,866,886,899,904,909,916,922,935,959,968,969,971,984,986,987,988,993,995],[1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,9,9,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,7,8,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,2,4,5,6,1,26,1,1,1,1,8,2,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,4,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,5,1,1,1,1,2,5,1,3,1,4,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,7,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: jeubank@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Judith Eubank) Subject: Re: a few questions Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences Lines: 7 Arthur Clarke may have quoted the comment about knowing you're to be hanged in the morning concentrating a man's mind wonderfully, but the source of the comment is Samuel Johnson. (Pardon me if you already knew that.) -----je soc.religion.christian1["from:","jeubank@mail.sas.upenn.edu","(judith","eubank)","subject:","re:","a","few","questions","organization:","university","of","pennsylvania,","school","of","arts","and","sciences","lines:","7","","arthur","clarke","may","have","quoted","the","comment","about","knowing","you're","to","be","hanged","in","the","morning","concentrating","a","man's","mind","wonderfully,","but","the","source","of","the","comment","is","samuel","johnson.","","(pardon","me","if","you","already","knew","that.)","","-----je"][0,1000,[3,31,57,65,70,72,83,91,95,157,170,184,231,278,281,294,296,299,308,333,343,372,388,393,400,412,425,428,445,471,477,484,514,528,656,666,667,672,679,680,710,727,732,751,756,765,777,808,871,903,933],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) Subject: Re: Your Evil Tax Dollars at Work, was RE: ATF BURNS RANCH ETC ETC... Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 16 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com In article <1993Apr23.162517.14029@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com>, kam@cv.hp.com (Keith Marchington) writes: > Good question. Take an objective look at what happened, listen to the > things that the FBI said ("The BD's started the fire." "The BD's bodies > were found with gunshot wounds.") that are now being refuted by the > evidence being recovered. Seems that the FBI is deliberately making > statements that have no rational basis in fact, and trying to make > them sound like fact. That's another sad thing. I'd expect this sort of shit from the BATF. But I'm goddamn disappointed in the FBI. They used to be professionals. -- cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Invest...talk.politics.guns16["from:","cdt@sw.stratus.com","(c.","d.","tavares)","subject:","re:","your","evil","tax","dollars","at","work,","was","re:","atf","burns","ranch","etc","etc...","organization:","stratus","computer,","inc.","lines:","16","distribution:","world","nntp-posting-host:","rocket.sw.stratus.com","","in","article","<1993apr23.162517.14029@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com>,","kam@cv.hp.com","(keith","marchington)","writes:","",">","good","question.","","take","an","objective","look","at","what","happened,","listen","to","the","",">","things","that","the","fbi","said","(\"the","bd's","started","the","fire.\"","","\"the","bd's","bodies",">","were","found","with","gunshot","wounds.\")","that","are","now","being","refuted","by","the","",">","evidence","being","recovered.","","seems","that","the","fbi","is","deliberately","making",">","statements","that","have","no","rational","basis","in","fact,","and","trying","to","make",">","them","sound","like","fact.","","","","that's","another","sad","thing.","","i'd","expect","this","sort","of","shit","from","the","batf.","but","i'm","goddamn","disappointed","in","the","fbi.","","they","used","to","be","professionals.","--","","","cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com","","","--if","you","believe","that","i","speak","for","my","company,","or","cdt@vos.stratus.com","","","","","","","","write","today","for","my","special","investors'","packet..."][0,1000,[4,36,41,47,48,54,79,83,98,101,112,113,116,124,133,138,143,150,168,173,177,179,187,192,195,199,213,223,234,238,240,245,263,265,281,287,292,299,303,320,329,330,333,343,345,346,356,358,372,373,374,379,388,415,417,425,428,445,460,461,462,470,474,497,514,519,525,526,541,567,569,593,604,605,612,624,625,630,633,650,656,661,662,664,667,710,720,735,751,752,756,760,779,780,796,797,807,808,809,817,855,860,904,909,911,916,921,924,930,939,955,956,961,962,964,986,995,996,998],[1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,23,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,7,2,1,1,1,2,5,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1]][1,21,[],[406,340,478,438,396,427,451,424,241,215,360,267,96,286,312,280,454,411,394,275,0]][1,21,[],[0.05840886203423968,0.04891382534887067,0.06876708387282406,0.06301251618472162,0.05697022011221407,0.06143001007049345,0.06488275068335492,0.06099841749388577,0.03467127032081715,0.03093080132355057,0.05179110919292188,0.038411739318083726,0.013810962451445835,0.041145158969932386,0.044885627967198964,0.04028197381671702,0.06531434325996259,0.05912818299525248,0.05668249172780895,0.03956265285570421,0]]2

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